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      11-27-2022, 08:46 PM   #1
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Can anyone help please!.. How to switch off the distance control (front radar). While cruising?
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Long press the distance control button.
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And of course using the brake will disengage it
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      11-27-2022, 11:05 PM   #4
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And of course using the brake will disengage it
That will also disengage cruise control. I think the OP wants CC without the radar. Long pressing the distance button will disable that, but leave CC on as suggested earlier.
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Ah gotit .yeh old school CC
Yeh forgot about that feature

It's all in the manual.
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And of course using the brake will disengage it
That will also disengage cruise control. I think the OP wants CC without the radar. Long pressing the distance button will disable that, but leave CC on as suggested earlier.
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And of course using the brake will disengage it
That will also disengage cruise control. I think the OP wants CC without the radar. Long pressing the distance button will disable that, but leave CC on as suggested earlier.
Hi,
Did that, won't disable the distance control 💔
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Odd as I remember trying that when I got the car initially.
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I have a 2021 m550i with standard cruise control - does anyone know if my car will stop/slow down if it approaches a car too close?
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I won't slow down but wondering if the emergency safety features of the car may intervene if it thinks you may crash. Not something I would want to try out!

So no I would not expect it to slow down at all but just carry on at that set speed unless you manually change the speed or touch the brakes
That's what's the radar is for so it will maintain a set distance.
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I won't slow down but wondering if the emergency safety features of the car may intervene if it thinks you may crash. Not something I would want to try out!

So no I would not expect it to slow down at all but just carry on at that set speed unless you manually change the speed or touch the brakes
That's what's the radar is for so it will maintain a set distance.
lol does anyone know if our cars stop automatically if it comes too close to another car while not on cruise control? i've see the screen flash red or something like that but don't think i felt the brakes kick in.
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Did you intervene when the red car symbol appeared?
If you got that warning in that case I would expect it to intervene but it'll be at the last moment and I suspect you probably intervened after that warning though

Think it's too dangerous to actually try this out as suspect the car will not emergency brake unless it thinks you wish crash into it

If the red car symbol has appeared you was arguably too close to that car anyway
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Hi,
Did that, won't disable the distance control ��
It works for me. It is also covered in my manual.

Perhaps it varies by market and you may need to confirm the steps via your manual

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lol does anyone know if our cars stop automatically if it comes too close to another car while not on cruise control? i've see the screen flash red or something like that but don't think i felt the brakes kick in.
There is a guide on the forum that breaks down the safety systems on the G30. I can't keep up by model year as BMW has shifted things around a fair bit. But I believe all G30s cars have frontal collision avoidance.

There are two levels basically...

Level 1 uses the front facing windshield mounted camera to detect cars and approximates distance based on this. It will then warn you of impending collision and I believe it will brake for you as well. I think it only activates at highway speeds and is a bit less reliable than Level 2 since it only has the camera as its guide.

Level 2 uses the same camera in Level 1 and adds the front radar to the mix. Allowing it to operate a both "city" and highway speeds. And allows it to be more reliable and since it has radar added to the mix it is able to see "two cars" at a time. I believe the radar monitors the car in front and the camera monitors the car in front of that car so the system responds before the driver in front does (I've had this happen and it is pretty wild seeing it in action!).

The Driver Assistance Systems breakdown in this thread really goes into detail:

https://g30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1364915

As I said earlier, I'm not carrying BMW's model year changes delta in my head and I got a G30 in MY2020 so I'm less familiar with the previous MYs. So the easiest way to know is to check Intelligent Safety in the car for its features and/or look for the KAFAS camera on the windshield. But since you've seen the red car I'm going to go out on a limb and say you have Level 1. If you're newer than MY2020 you definitely have it has Level 1 was absolutely standard on MY2020 G30 cars in the US.
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lol does anyone know if our cars stop automatically if it comes too close to another car while not on cruise control? i've see the screen flash red or something like that but don't think i felt the brakes kick in.
One maddening thing about the manual, at least for my car, is the lack of a clear explanation about at what point the brakes will intervene, or how hard they intervene. To read it, it almost sounds like they will intervene right before you hit the old lady in the crosswalk, and will only intervene enough so that she will still be recognizable to her next of kin, but not coming for Thanksgiving anymore. I have been tempted to test it by drawing/painting the rear end of a car on a large piece of paper and mounting it to something that wont hurt my car - some flimsy carboard frame or whatever, and driving into it.
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One maddening thing about the manual, at least for my car, is the lack of a clear explanation about at what point the brakes will intervene, or how hard they intervene. To read it, it almost sounds like they will intervene right before you hit the old lady in the crosswalk, and will only intervene enough so that she will still be recognizable to her next of kin, but not coming for Thanksgiving anymore. I have been tempted to test it by drawing/painting the rear end of a car on a large piece of paper and mounting it to something that wont hurt my car - some flimsy carboard frame or whatever, and driving into it.
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the DAP on my 545e has really surprised me as to just how much I do use it now.
I use the semi autonomous self driving mode very little, as I have not used motorways (freeways) that much, but plenty of nation speed limit roads and major 'A' roads.
As per LogicalApex above, I believe it uses both camera, radar, side and front parking sensors, and also GPS all rolled up into a very neat package.
It knows multiple cars (and lorries) around the vehicle, marks what is where in three lanes, and shows when cars/lorries change lane in front of you very well, all shown as appropriate vehicle.
it also senses cars overtaking me very accurately, so back sensors obviously in use there.
Following a car in active cruise was a learning curve.
Even on city roads, or major roads at a crawl, it stops the car some 2 feet from the car in front, and then pulls away as traffic moves. A little disconcerting at first, and a major 'trust me' for the first few times.
Yes, my foot is always hovering over the brake!
It does not like parked cars at the side of the road, so I tend to avoid using it in such areas.
Everywhere else, a real boon for me.
Slowing down to the correct speed to allow left/right turns also takes some getting used to, and can be over cautios at times.
Anyways, on topic, I'm sure I managed to turn off the 'adaptive' part at least twice, but cannot remember how, and I prefer it on being honest, it works so well.
The accuracy with which it knows speed limit areas is amazing, literally slowing down as you enter or speeding up as you pass a sign.
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I really like it in traffic on the highway and standard cruising on the highway. But I have had a couple of instances on sharp turns or hills that the radar does not pick up the car in front of me and that gets a little scary.
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lol does anyone know if our cars stop automatically if it comes too close to another car while not on cruise control? i've see the screen flash red or something like that but don't think i felt the brakes kick in.
Yes, it will. It takes a lot for the car to hit the brakes, meaning it has to determine an impact is a lock. The red indicator is not an indicator that the car will brake, it is a warning for you.

I have had my car hit the brakes once on the highway where the car in front of me suddenly hit the brakes hard from high speed and I came up on him quick.
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Yes, it will. It takes a lot for the car to hit the brakes, meaning it has to determine an impact is a lock. The red indicator is not an indicator that the car will brake, it is a warning for you.

I have had my car hit the brakes once on the highway where the car in front of me suddenly hit the brakes hard from high speed and I came up on him quick.
I had it a few times when I lived in Philly. Congestion on twisty narrow highways are what causes so many crashes there. Traffic going 70MPH round a bend to a wall of cars… Anyway.

The one scenario that really surprised me was on the interstate in NJ. The car in front of the car in front of me mashed his brakes hard. I could see the car, but I had a lot of distance between me and the car in front so I hovered the brake since the PHEV will slow down well with regen and I was ready to do more if it was more than a momentary blip as people do. Guy in front didn’t tap his brakes yet and the car quickly flashed the red car with audible alert and applied the brakes. I stopped with solid distance, but the guy in front was a hair away from rear ending he responded so late.

It has caught a few more cases like that over the years. But you’re right it wont’ brake unless it determines that an impact is likely given the traffic around you and its estimation on how quickly you’ll be able to slowdown to avoid it.

The other one that is really nice is evasion assist. I’ve had my share of emergency stops as I mentioned earlier and generally my rule is maintain your lane as exiting it to evade can be a risky call. Another car can try the same thing, you may miss your blindspot check, or in a panic you may overdo it and hit a wall or something else. I was following a little too close and had to evade and was well aware of the state of my lanes so made the jump. The car felt like it was on rails. As it assisted enough to make sure it was smooth. Hard to describe it exactly, but it was well done. Not a replacement for you, obviously, but really helped. Didn’t protect me from my wife reminding me to give more space next time though

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Yes, it will. It takes a lot for the car to hit the brakes, meaning it has to determine an impact is a lock. The red indicator is not an indicator that the car will brake, it is a warning for you.

I have had my car hit the brakes once on the highway where the car in front of me suddenly hit the brakes hard from high speed and I came up on him quick.
I had it a few times when I lived in Philly. Congestion on twisty narrow highways are what causes so many crashes there. Traffic going 70MPH round a bend to a wall of cars… Anyway.

The one scenario that really surprised me was on the interstate in NJ. The car in front of the car in front of me mashed his brakes hard. I could see the car, but I had a lot of distance between me and the car in front so I hovered the brake since the PHEV will slow down well with regen and I was ready to do more if it was more than a momentary blip as people do. Guy in front didn't tap his brakes yet and the car quickly flashed the red car with audible alert and applied the brakes. I stopped with solid distance, but the guy in front was a hair away from rear ending he responded so late.

It has caught a few more cases like that over the years. But you're right it wont' brake unless it determines that an impact is likely given the traffic around you and its estimation on how quickly you'll be able to slowdown to avoid it.

The other one that is really nice is evasion assist. I've had my share of emergency stops as I mentioned earlier and generally my rule is maintain your lane as exiting it to evade can be a risky call. Another car can try the same thing, you may miss your blindspot check, or in a panic you may overdo it and hit a wall or something else. I was following a little too close and had to evade and was well aware of the state of my lanes so made the jump. The car felt like it was on rails. As it assisted enough to make sure it was smooth. Hard to describe it exactly, but it was well done. Not a replacement for you, obviously, but really helped. Didn't protect me from my wife reminding me to give more space next time though

The intelligent safety technology in these cars is amazing. You don't even know you have it until you really need it. It's peace of mind, but nothing takes the place of awareness and keeping your eyes on the road. Easier said than done sometimes with all the stuff to play with while driving.
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I really like it in traffic on the highway and standard cruising on the highway. But I have had a couple of instances on sharp turns or hills that the radar does not pick up the car in front of me and that gets a little scary.
I also found it useful in inclement weather. On our last road trip the weather turned foul, drizzly turning foggy. The ACC followed the car in front of me (I increased the distance to 4-bars) just fine, even though I lost sight of it.
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I really like it in traffic on the highway and standard cruising on the highway. But I have had a couple of instances on sharp turns or hills that the radar does not pick up the car in front of me and that gets a little scary.
I also found it useful in inclement weather. On our last road trip the weather turned foul, drizzly turning foggy. The ACC followed the car in front of me (I increased the distance to 4-bars) just fine, even though I lost sight of it.
Wow! That's impressive!
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Evasion assist was one feature I found the documentation on a little unclear. I assumed that dsc would take care of that sort of manoeuvre so wasn't sure exactly what evasion assist was doing differently or in addition.

Glad to know it work though

I think the trick is not to be relying on these features, keep and eye on what is around you, keep a good distance between you and the car in front (only a fool breaks the 2 second rule) and hopefully you don't have to call upon any of these features

In the 5 years I've had my g30 I don't recall even have to use the ABS even.
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