[remmib]

Originally Posted by clbmw

Hmm maybe stateside, here in the uk most LCI F30 come with shameful halogens. Only the top end M Sport (335d and 340i) models come with LED.

It's 2016 and using cheapo incandescent bulb technology that was patented in 1882 is not just wrong, but actually laughable on a premium brand.

I'm not stateside, but in Norway. And I didn't mean that LED was standard, but instead of having Xenon as an option now LED is an option.
All the F30/31 LCI I've seen here has the LED, but I know for some reason many in UK doesn't upgrade the lights.

[clbmw]

Originally Posted by remmib

I'm not stateside, but in Norway. And I didn't mean that LED was standard, but instead of having Xenon as an option now LED is an option.
All the F30/31 LCI I've seen here has the LED, but I know for some reason many in UK doesn't upgrade the lights.

My apologies I didn't see you were in Norway. The US spec sheets for 530i and 540i state LED as standard so parity of esteem for the UK and Europe means BMW should make them standard here too, if not we're being short changed.

I am sincerely hoping that next gen 1 and 2 series, xenon becomes the norm with LED options (at least for the engines 120d and above so there remains a cheap entry level option for those on a budget)

...And that for everything else (3er +) LED is standard with Adaptive and Laser Light optional upgrades.

[Bmw doubles]

It's a big Passat

[MParallel]

Linked away from this topic and back. No pics found, except a Passat with kidney grills.

Will hold opinion for now.

[TodmordenLad]

Originally Posted by Bmw doubles

It's a big Passat

Have to agree, more's the pity

That said, if it does end up looking like this, at least I won't be hankering after one, and can hang on to and continue to enjoy my F31!!

[R N M]

Judging by the new 7 styling there is NO WAY this G30 will look anywhere as good as the F10.

In terms of looks, the F10 and E39 were by far the nicest 5series ever!

[SCOTT26]

Always astounds me and colleagues in Munich on how people can give a final impression based on an artists rendering which is so far from the finished article that they can judge the car from that?

[TunedM2C]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Always astounds me and colleagues in Munich on how people can give a final impression based on an artists rendering which is so far from the finished article that they can judge the car from that?

Well the OP was there to see it in person and stated it looks almost identical to the render posted. :

[Germanauto]

I don't understand why people here are being so critical of the design. If you find the F10 to be a handsome car then you will find the G30 to be handsome as well. Unfortunately it will be a very refreshing redesign, but it will be a nice looking car nevertheless. I don't think anybody can be lazier than Audi designers...just check out the new Q5!

As I pointed out earlier, I am going to be a bit underwhelmed with the interior. The build quality and quality of materials will be impressive, but it just won't be as stylish or "wow" factor inducing as what Mercedes is pushing out these days.

[scoobysaurus]

Originally Posted by TunedM2

Well the OP was there to see it in person and stated it looks almost identical to the render posted. :

But, but... One of the creases might be a few millimeters to the left or right of where it should be, so of course the car will look nothing like the renders! How dare we pass premature judgments!

I for one like what I see, but hey, that probably means nothing now since the renders are clearly inaccurate and not at all representative of the final product, and obviously the OP has no idea what he's talking about despite having seen the car in person...

[marsb007]

I like it. I am not sure what you guys really expect.

These are volume cars, not limited run exotics.

And I don't think it looks like a Passat either.

7 years from now I wish I would remember to come back to this post to re-read some of theses comments (when everyone will trash the H series, and reminisce how good the G30 was).

[BimmerGuyFL78]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Always astounds me and colleagues in Munich on how people can give a final impression based on an artists rendering which is so far from the finished article that they can judge the car from that?

Well if it's anything like the 7-series just smaller I am going to be highly disappointed.

[solstice]

Originally Posted by Alpine535Msport

Well if it's anything like the 7-series just smaller I am going to be highly disappointed.

Unfortunately I have to agree, the F01 is a good looking large sedan but the new sevener is both awkward and generic looking. I'm no fan of the F10 as a sport sedan but it's a handsome car, if the G30 has a similar exterior transformation as the sevener it will be disappointing. The huge grills are awful and the combination of a rounded upright front make the overhang look too big for an rwd car, especially a BMW. It's an awkward thing and not awkward good as the E60 which still had that BMW sporty lowslung short front overhang.

[bjcarls]

The e60 aged very well imo, these last iterations will not. They look up to date the minute they are launched, not a step forward. As Chris bangle said, same sausage, just different lengths. Thats not what style and differentiation is. And if it is, then the performance better be fucking amazing!

[x5mannn]

The 5 series styling review starts at 2:20

[solstice]

Originally Posted by bjcarls

The e60 aged very well imo, these last iterations will not. They look up to date the minute they are launched, not a step forward. As Chris bangle said, same sausage, just different lengths. Thats not what style and differentiation is. And if it is, then the performance better be fucking amazing!

The E39 gets all the glory but my favorite 5 is the E60 both in driving dynamics and looks ( when equipped with large enough wheels which is crucial for this car's looks ). Not the most classy but it has a muscular and edgy/bold presence.

[535DMSport]

Originally Posted by bjcarls

The e60 aged very well imo, these last iterations will not. They look up to date the minute they are launched, not a step forward. As Chris bangle said, same sausage, just different lengths. Thats not what style and differentiation is. And if it is, then the performance better be fucking amazing!

The E60 is the most ugly 5 series BMW ever produced lol. It really needed an M-sport trim to hide it's aesthetic failures. Chris Bangle is the biggest failure in terms of design, look at the hideous E65/E66.

[AlexLou1222]

E65 and that bangle Z4 were just plain ugly. Best 5 was no doubt E39, even regular 530i looks perfect, and I still remember driving E39 M5, best driving sedan, everything was perfect, that no current BMW can match. I have had both E39 and F10, skipped E60 cuz too ugly. Despite all the new tech and power, the F10 can't match E39 driving dynamics.

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by x5mannn

The 5 series styling review starts at 2:20

What nonsense.

[JPToadstool]

I'm glad to hear about the Bowers and Wilkins sound system, they're my favourite brand of audio equipment. It all sounds incredibly promising so far!

[TodmordenLad]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

What nonsense.

What do you expect from 5th Gear, the presenters are all truly awful !?

[BimmerGuyFL78]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

What nonsense.

LOL it's not none sense. It's a subjective notice and like me and most people I know who are into BMW's 95% agree that the E60 wasn't one of BMW's best designs. It looked awful when it came out and it hasn't aged well at all. Pretty is definitely not one of its traits.