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If they do an OTA update, I hope that a) they've fixed some of the ID7 bugs by then and b) they give us the option to retain the look of ID6 in the dash. I rather like the circular gauges and haven't warmed up to those trapezoid things in ID7.
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agree. I'd like the option to switch to ID7, and also the option to switch back to ID6
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July 2019 is big change month for several cars, X3, X5, 5 series getting new engines and digital updates. I'm more interested what will happen with LCI a year from that in July 2020? New 5 body updates>? |
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Don't confuse updating with upgrading.
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02-16-2019, 06:33 AM | #34 |
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Even from MY19 with full digital cluster? The shape of my cluster screen looks like a dead on match to what's showing up in 3ers/X5 etc.
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All of that aside, as said above, manufacturers do not give anything away. Why would you buy a newer car/LCI if they simply updated existing models to match? |
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02-18-2019, 12:02 PM | #36 |
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Stay away from ID7. Buggy as hell.
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Again, as someone with an iDrive 6 and iDrive 7 car, I'd caution against the idea that 7 is an automatic upgrade. I'd be much happier with our 2019 X5 if it had Drive 6 (and the same full digital dash as my 5 series).
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I agree that BMW (or any business with a brain) will look for ways to monetize new tech anytime they can. |
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02-20-2019, 07:27 AM | #39 | |
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With regards to the ID7 hardware, albeit BMW have kept a consistent look, they are using new equipment. No doubt someone will come along with a retrofit kit like they have done for every previous version of iDrive, but only a handful of people will take it up because of the cost and work involved for what never feels like 'a total revolution'. For now, ID6 works and works well. I'll look forward to ID7 in the LCI G30 when (hopefully) they have fixed all the bugs. Still not sure on the backwards rev counter though... |
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06-25-2019, 09:22 AM | #40 | |
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You cannot expect customers to switch cars because of a small operating system update at the HU level. Most of customers don't care and don't notice those changes when an LCI passes by. And for most of those customers who notice those changes, they are only frustrated that the manufacturer expects them to upgrade to the newer model and lose a great amount of money through devaluation... Today, everybody is used to OTA software updates, and manufacturers like Tesla push the model to a great extent which is really to the benefit of the customers. With this approach, my opinion is that the brand would benefit much more from customer satisfaction and turn it into customer loyalty! Especially that, the value of moving from ID6 to ID7 isn't huge, but it's a nice have that customers would be sensitive to. Moreover if you look at how BMW (and other traditional manufacturer) build their cars and options, it is a nightmare of logistic, part numbers, manufacturing processes, etc. Which makes the options far more expensive than what they are really worth... Look at the different levels (at least five if I recall) of Park Assist that BMW has, each with different hardware and control units, and mix that with the different aesthetic options (for instance side mirror cameras with glossy black plastic covers or mate plastic), then with different generations and year models, and it quickly turn into a nightmare that probably costs more than the option itself. If you compare that to the fact that Tesla decided for their Model 3 to put additional battery capacity built-in, and activate it over the air, if the customer pays for the option, you understand how behind the curve traditional car makers really are! Last edited by Soussef24; 06-25-2019 at 10:42 AM.. |
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The constantly changing tech reinforces that trend by encouraging people to stay in the lease cycle in order to get new hardware and tech every 2-3 years. Downstream, this also supplies the pre-owned market with a bunch of 2-3 year-old vehicles, with that supply driving down costs to obtain those preowned cars and encouraging even the used car market to move toward vehicles that are only 2-3 years old vs. 4-5 or more. End result is you have more churn throughout the industry - new car lessees are getting a new car every 2 years, and used car purchasers have their pick of newer pre-owneds to cycle through faster as well. All of this keeps production #s up year to year and the money flowing through the entire food chain. |
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I like the new digital display, but I like the current digital display too. I'm happy with what I got. So I really don't care one way or the other.
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