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      08-06-2023, 01:58 AM   #1
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F1 2023: Dutch GP - Zandvoort (Aug 27)

F1 2023: Dutch GP - Zandvoort (Aug 27)

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https://www.formula1.com/en/racing/2...therlands.html

Circuit Zandvoort:
https://www.formula1.com/en/racing/2...s/Circuit.html



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Zandvoort
When was the track built?

Like Silverstone, Zandvoort was first opened in 1948, part of the wave of post-war motorsport enthusiasm that swept across Europe. Originally made up of a mixture of permanent track and public roads that snaked through the sand dunes of the Zandvoort resort town, the Dutch Automobile Racing Club – who initiated the plans for the circuit – brought in 1927 Le Mans winner Sammy Davis to consult on the layout for the original 4.2km track.
When was its first Grand Prix?

Formula 1 arrived in the Dutch dunes in 1952, with Alberto Ascari dominating the race as he led home a 1-2-3 for Ferrari. Formula 1 would go on to race on and off at the track until 1985 – before, in 2019, the announcement came that the championship would return to Zandvoort for 2020, after a 35-year hiatus. The Covid-19 pandemic meant that became 36 years and a 2021 date.
What’s the circuit like?

‘Really quick’, ‘pretty insane’, ‘crazy’ and ‘old-school’ were words used by the current crop of F1 drivers when asked to describe the Zandvoort track that many of them tackled in their junior category days. We’d also add ‘undulating’ to that list. The Zandvoort track swoops and flows through the sand dunes, creating a rollercoaster-like feel to the lap. And while the circuit was modernised in time for F1’s most recent return – including increasing the banking angle at the famous Tarzan corner to an Indianapolis Motor Speedway-trumping 18 degrees – Zandvoort remains a proper, challenging drivers’ track.
Why go?

Zandvoort combines a lot of enticing features for an F1 fan. There’s the historic track, which famously featured in John Frankenheimer’s Grand Prix, and was the scene of many great F1 moments over the years (Gilles Villeneuve’s three-wheeled lap, anyone?). There’s the atmosphere, which with Max Verstappen on the grid is always guaranteed to be electric, and most definitely orange-hued. And then there’s the beachside location, just a 30-minute train ride outside of Amsterdam. What’s not to love?
Where is the best place to watch?

We recommend taking to either the first turn at Tarzan, or to one of the banked corners, either at Arie Luyendijkbocht – the final turn on the track – or Hugenholtzbocht. For F1’s 2021 return, the latter corner was both widened and banked into a parabolic corner, to allow cars to run side by side, and at the same speed, through it. Exciting is an understatement…
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The summer break seems long , still 3 weeks to go...

Last years' GP saw an exciting ending on this track where a SC gave some interesting pitstops. Max was leading the race but came in for fresh softs. So did RUS and LEC. HAM didn't pit for new tyres and took lead in the race, but prooved no match for Max who was flying on the softs and overtook HAM straight away, winning the race. HAM also got overtaken by RUS and LEC, ending in 4th place.

Zandvoort is very much an old school track. Basically where the track ends, the grass or gravel pit starts. Lots of lower speed corners, but also 2 large banked corners that have multiple racing lines. Quite an unique F1 circuit nowadays I think.

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1. Max
2. NOR
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4. PER
5. HAM

I'm leaving Ferrari out as that seems the only way to get them onto the podium according to my recent experiences....
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1. MAX
2. PER
3. LEC
4. NOR
5. HAM

Going with this, I see a rejuvenated Checo coming on song.
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must be the most fun track to drive on!
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must be the most fun track to drive on!
I think a lot of drivers like it.
But I think also austria (red bull ring) and Spa score pretty high amongst most drivers.
Of course it's also pretty new to the current F1 calender.
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Probably the very best use for a solid sand base
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It does say they 'play' on their shirts and that's all they can do when they come up against Max oooh
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It does say they 'play' on their shirts and that's all they can do when they come up against Max oooh
I can't see it, getting some kinda virus warning instead
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I can't see it, getting some kinda virus warning instead
Got it here and Chas's massive pay deal will make him laugh at any virus..he won't get any finger pointing now and wave to Bino from a distance
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I can't see it, getting some kinda virus warning instead
Try via the YouTube link =>
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[QUOTE=///M Power-Belgium;30387834]Try via the YouTube link =>

Well done Christian! he refuses to sign a Merc hat dangled at him from a HAM fan.
https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/10...s-ferrari-hat/
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Well done Christian! he refuses to sign a Merc hat dangled at him from a HAM fan.
https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/10...s-ferrari-hat/
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Looks like that is where Bino is heading, with four top bods out including advisor Prost leaving Bino to run the Renault galleon and he should have a clean sheet to start from. Funny he said that Audi are for clowns
Seems that France has lost interest in F1 with Le Castellet cancelled for '23 even with two French drivers currently racing he will have a lot on his shoulders but Renault looks like where he's going in '24.
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Their engine will get better but strategy will go into the tank.
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Their engine will get better but strategy will go into the tank.
With what he learnt at Ferrari he'll probably hire a couple of strat bods to do the opposite with what happened at Monaco at that time with Chas
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Bino can't join a new team until 1/1/24 subject to Ferrari contract constraints.
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