Standard LED Headlights?

JCFans01 · 06-01-2018, 11:24 AM

Hey guys, just checking that I've been seeing the standard headlights around (pics attached) and these are supposed to be LED? They look like bi-xenons to me but I might be wrong.

TopgearLA · 06-01-2018, 11:36 AM

They are LED but with projector lens- the others are the ICON LEDs with the newer style daytime running angel eyes. I prefer the newer style as I think the projectors now make them look like an older car but obviously just my opinion

ADS-UK · 06-01-2018, 12:33 PM

As TopgearLA have said, those are standard LEDs not ICON lights. However, I prefer the standard LEDs. Only issue is that you can't get Adaptive lights without ICON lights.

Dephead2004 · 06-01-2018, 04:30 PM

Adaptive are brighter too and have greater range

530iDriver · 06-02-2018, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgearLA

They are LED but with projector lens- the others are the ICON LEDs with the newer style daytime running angel eyes. I prefer the newer style as I think the projectors now make them look like an older car but obviously just my opinion

The standard LEDs are still far ahead and clearly superior to the halogens I had in my E90.

boonkgang13k · 06-03-2018, 08:02 PM

The standard LED lights don't seem to have the "line" turning signal. I really like the turning signal to be on top of the angel eyes...

Dephead2004 · 06-04-2018, 11:45 AM

Standard have an electric lightbulb just like Edison used!

ADS-UK · 06-05-2018, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dephead2004

Standard have an electric lightbulb just like Edison used!

Yep, ICON lights have non-electric, magic bulbs

suj999 · 06-05-2018, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ADS-UK

Yep, ICON lights have non-electric, magic bulbs

Jim-Bow · 06-05-2018, 05:02 AM

Aside from the "retro" halogen indicator bulbs the standard LED headlights are fantastic. As bright as the xenons on my F30 and look the part with the Corona rings (which I slightly prefer to the ICON style)

The pics in the original post are of the standard LEDs

DTom · 06-05-2018, 08:13 AM

I concur, "standard" LED lights are very good, better then bi-xenons on F10, also they can be adaptive, in terms they move as your steering wheel moves, have them installed on my car
difference to ICON ones:
- obviously shape is "old" bixenon like fashion, as i am weird I like it more
- blinkers are old fashion on the side while ICON have them in line above main light, here i like more the new the way

- does not have variable light distribution
- does not have beam assist included, can be ordered separately
Given standard lights performance, ICON are worth the price only in case their are included as standard in particular model, variable light distribution will be used often or new design is much preferred to old one, imho.
Regarding variable light distribution function itself in real life, have to say i liked much more the Merc version than BMW one during the test, felt like one generation ahead to me.

Farravi · 01-20-2019, 08:06 AM

I have the basic projector led lights on mine and wanted to upgrade it to the adaptive led's. If I buy a pair from fleabay, is it swap / plug and play or would I need to buy modules and code it into the car? Also would I need to buy the rhd version I'd imagine.

Farravi · 01-22-2019, 04:31 AM

Any solid advice, would be appreciated.

GaSelle · 01-23-2019, 01:33 AM

Without beeing sure, I assume they would need coding. You can buy the Icon lights as an official retrofit kit from BMW. Partnumber is 63 13 2 455 650 and the price is aroudn 2600€.

AP · 01-23-2019, 01:51 AM

Not cheap!

kitster · 01-23-2019, 02:46 AM

Laughable that they still do halogen bulbs.

Audi do something similar, the front turn indicators are just like the ICON's but you've got to pay "extra" for the strobe effect.........but at least it's not HALOGEN!!!!

530iDriver · 01-23-2019, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kitster

Laughable that they still do halogen bulbs.

Audi do something similar, the front turn indicators are just like the ICON's but you've got to pay "extra" for the strobe effect.........but at least it's not HALOGEN!!!!

You mean incandescent bulbs for the turn signals...

babaikram · 01-23-2019, 02:50 PM

For me one of the three must have options for G30

jdbossman · 01-02-2021, 05:13 PM

Has anyone upgraded the incandescent turn signal bulbs to LED? Just curious as to which ones would work without throwing a code or flickering....

kitster · 01-03-2021, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jdbossman

Has anyone upgraded the incandescent turn signal bulbs to LED? Just curious as to which ones would work without throwing a code or flickering....

I've not upgraded the G31 as I have the ICON lights but on my F31 I did upgrade the brake and F/R turn signals to 50W CREE LED. I had to code out the warm/cold bulb checks & bulb = LED to prevent the flicking.

Lp01 · 01-03-2021, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DTom

Regarding variable light distribution function itself in real life, have to say i liked much more the Merc version than BMW one during the test, felt like one generation ahead to me.

Exactly. Both Audi and Mercedes seem to be one generation ahead from BMW regarding adaptive lights. I ordered my 530e with adaptive and to be honest, the system is much inferior than other premium brands. I also own an Audi with matrix Led headlights from 2015 and it is much better than my 530e LCI, which is quite susprising.

ejlover06 · 01-04-2021, 05:48 AM

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Exactly. Either Audi and Mercedes seem to be one generation ahead from BMW regarding adaptive lights. I ordered my 530e with adaptive and to be honest, the system is much inferior than other premium brands. I also own an Audi with matrix Led headlights from 2015 and it is much better than my 530e LCI, which is quite susprising.

LCI has a narrower new design and there are a lot of complaints with these new headlights on LCI models. If you have a chance try Adaptive LEDs side by side with a non-LCI G30

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Jim-Bow First Lieutenant 131 Rep 320 Posts Drives: G16 840i Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: South Wales iTrader: (0)	Aside from the "retro" halogen indicator bulbs the standard LED headlights are fantastic. As bright as the xenons on my F30 and look the part with the Corona rings (which I slightly prefer to the ICON style) The pics in the original post are of the standard LEDs __________________ Now- 2021 G16 840i Last- 2017 G30 530d Prev- 2013 F30 330d
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DTom New Member 2 Rep 6 Posts Drives: G30 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: CZ iTrader: (0)	I concur, "standard" LED lights are very good, better then bi-xenons on F10, also they can be adaptive, in terms they move as your steering wheel moves, have them installed on my car difference to ICON ones: - obviously shape is "old" bixenon like fashion, as i am weird I like it more - blinkers are old fashion on the side while ICON have them in line above main light, here i like more the new the way - does not have variable light distribution - does not have beam assist included, can be ordered separately Given standard lights performance, ICON are worth the price only in case their are included as standard in particular model, variable light distribution will be used often or new design is much preferred to old one, imho. Regarding variable light distribution function itself in real life, have to say i liked much more the Merc version than BMW one during the test, felt like one generation ahead to me.
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Farravi Newbie to G30 11 Rep 37 Posts Drives: G30 530e Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: London, United Kingdom iTrader: (0)	I have the basic projector led lights on mine and wanted to upgrade it to the adaptive led's. If I buy a pair from fleabay, is it swap / plug and play or would I need to buy modules and code it into the car? Also would I need to buy the rhd version I'd imagine.
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