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G30 Remote Engine Start Coding
I have a Intelligent Key and there is a remote ventilation option on it. But the car doesn't have additional heater or remote parking function. So, remote ventilation neither heats up nor cools down the car since engine is not running.
Is there a way to remote start the car (by activating the remote ventilation or pressing the lock button on the remote 3 times in 2secs.)? I've found and changed the following parameters: BDC_BODY2:3020 DG_3020, 1C: 5: TCM_REMOTE_START aktiv BDC_BODY2:30D0 DG_30D0, 0C: 6: RCM_ENABLE_REMOTE_ENGINESTART aktiv HU_NBT2: 3000 HMI: 252: HVAC_REMOTE_ENGINE_START aktiv HU_NBT2: 3001 EXBOX: 18: ASSIST_REMOTE_HVAC aktiv After these an option has been added to the HVAC remote menu to start the engine automatically; when I select it a popup reminder shows to remind in some countries it may be illegal to idle car etc. I select ok and close the popup but it doesn't work either I click 3 times on the lock button nor activate the remote ventilation. Are there any other parameters needs to be changed or do I need an extra hardware to activate remote engine start?
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You missed the remote start reference in the DKOMBI coding
I tried the same codes months ago, the pop up box never did anything and it wouldn’t work. Turns out there is an FSC code required from the dealer (or other places) for the DME module in order to make it work. I’m not sure if it also requires the newer BDC_Body3 that the newer cars like the X5, 3 series, etc. get. |
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Thanks for the information if that's not possible via OEM remote I don't want to add an additional hardware right now since there is a guarantee for 1.5 more years.
It's interesting though since remote parking starts the car with OEM hardware.
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Also tried CO coding 1CR for remote start but nothing changed
Interestingly it didn't even change the parameters I've listed at my first message :/
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However, don't bother trying unless you have the FSC code. With 1CR added to FA do u have space for the FSC? If yes then you could try and purchase one. |
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But I also think something went wrong during VO coding even Esys didn't give any errors and everything seemed fine; related parameters not changed is something I can not explain.. I'll try VO coding 1CR again DME_BAC2[DiagAddress=18(0x12)] RootCertStatus not available SWSigStatus accepted SWTApplications ---------- AppID 195(0xC3) UpgradeIndex 1(0x01) SWTType SWTclassic light FSCStatus not available FSCCertStatus not available ---------- AppID 157(0x9D) UpgradeIndex 1(0x01) SWTType SWTclassic light FSCStatus not available FSCCertStatus not available In one of the remote start codes it says cars from 2018 tap lock button 3 times in 2 secs. My car is late 2017 but with a recently updated i-step 19-11 May that be a problem? Maybe intelligent key needs and update also which we can not do
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VO Code must have gone wrong. Don't forget you need to turn engine on for most ECU, but OFF for DME. You wont get it to work without FSC. The car will appear to be configured for Remote Start - I can even get the connected drive app on my phone to attempt a remote start fine, it flashes the blinkers 3 times, clicks and whirs but never starts the car. |
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I've VO Coded car to factory options and then added 1CR and other options and VO coded again and nothing has been added again related with the remote engine start
Also still has only 2 FSC slots under DME_BAC2: C3 and 9D
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I did a coding verification on the G30 with 1CR and there were no changes. That is because all the coding for all of the remote start codes are set to not aktiv for the G30, meaning its not supported, at least not OEM Factory Order. |
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There is also this: RCM_ENABLE_REMOTE_ENGINESTART nicht_aktiv [00] Kommentar=Remote enginestart via IDG (via 3times lock-button-press within 2sec) enabled. ~~ Aktivierung Motorfernstart möglich (über 3fach-Druck VR-Taste innerhalb 2sec). - ONLY FOR BDC2018
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Are there any G30's in production that have remote start available - can you order 1CR? For other models such as G05, you can reference 1CR in the model brochure, that is the starting point. The FSC is only referenced for G05 not G30, and Remote Control Parking is 5DV which I'm not sure is even available anymore. RCM_* is not enabled on the G30. Last edited by ifr; 03-05-2020 at 03:08 AM.. |
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Thanks for the clarification. So that means if I see a false() value under any options in the CAFD files that means it is also impossible to FDL code that function so I should abandon the project since G30 doesn't support it. Am I correct?
I was also working on VZA, EDP and ISA. I'll check verifications for them like you've showed Sometimes they show a boolean code instead. I think it is a precondition but it's in this format: cat[@val<"128"][crit[@val=1735] and I don't understand it. Cat takes 128 or 255 values I think they are active and not active which refers to code/option/etc. with code 1735. How can I know what 1735 is? Update: I've found it from FA/FP editor of CAFD Tool. But I also realize that I've coded a Compass in the boardcomputer and it works in the instrument cluster. Codes related with it shows exactly like the screen shot you've shared Xpath was false for G30 on all parameters I've changed. But it works.
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There are some exceptions to this such as ViM and other features (compass?) that are not production released but are supported in i-step. These may have no boolean or are set false, but we know they work when activated. When you VO Code your car it checks the FA for parameters - car build version, region, options (pre-req and new code options), blocking codes, etc. The target ECU is then coded based upon the boolean and FA. This is how dealers retrofit options such as 1CR - they don't FDL code. 1735 is 5AT- Driving Assistant Plus, so wherever this is set to true, if your FA has that option and all other conditions are met, then this will be coded aktiv. Still doesn't mean it will work as you may not have the hardware, so you generally see an error in ISTA. You can use TM's ncdtool to quickly determine what the boolean codes correspond with and decrypt what is actually being set. To add - in your Remote Start Example, on cars where it is supported all of those codes that are set to false for the G30, have boolean. So you add 1CR to the FA of a G05 and you get: 1D92: DWA Motor Remote: aktiv [01] 3D0E: C_EPBI_Remote_Start: aktiv [01] 3E52: HVAC_REMOTE_ENGINE_START: aktiv [01] 4508: HMI_REMOTE_START_ENABLE: aktiv [01] 51C9: MIN_TANKINHALT_STANDHEIZEN: 2L [02] STANDKLIMA_MOTORLAUF: AKTIV_Alle_Aktivierungswege [01] 7083: ALH_AKTIV_IN_PWF_ZUSTAND: ab_Standfunktionen [02] RCM_ENABLE_REMOTE_ENGINESTART: aktiv [01] TCM_REMOTE_START: aktiv [01] VOKO_SHZ_ALHZ: VOKO_aktive_alle_Sitze [0F] Last edited by ifr; 03-05-2020 at 04:54 AM.. |
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For ISA example it requires 5AT or ACC s&g but I have 5AS. I'm thinking to add ACC S&G to VO list and code the car and see if ISA is activated. If it is I'll copy the working parameters from all ECUs and Remove ACC S&G from VO and then FDL code the ISA parameters. Will it work that way? But if boolean codes are controlled in real time it won't happen. But as I understand it they are checked during the VO coding. So theoretically this should work because even BMW put 5AT as a prerequisite to ISA all it does is to update the speed adjusted according to Signs read from map or navi which works in my car. 5AS only lacks front radar and distance adjustment buttons on the wheel which doesn't have anything to do with ISA, EDP or VZA
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Best bet is to use esysx and esys Coding-verification so that you can do a before and after. Then you dont need anyones cafd - you can self-serve. So, do a coding verification for your stock FA and SVT, generate fwl files and store in a folder, then do the same again but with your modified FA, and move those to another folder. Use winmerge or similar to compare the differences. Bingo! |
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I was VO coding all 27 ECUS everytime to take a copy of CAFD files to make comparisons How can I use the Coding-verification function without actually VO coding?? OK I've figured it out and it really really saved me sooooo much time and dodged of having lots of error codes in the car Thanks @ifr you're a life saver much appreciated
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Just select your FA in Coding-Verification, select your SVT, enter a directory to store the trace files. Ensure just FWL is ticked. Then click on 'Start Complete Verification' |
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