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      05-06-2022, 04:59 PM   #1
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Remove Dinan for Warranty?

I have an appointment to have a front PDC sensor replaced tomorrow at BMW. The car is in the last month of factory warranty. Should I remove the Dinan before the appointment? I also have an aftermarket warranty that kicks in after OEM.

The thing is a PITA to remove and reinstall on the 4.4L…
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Unless an aftermarket part affects the item being worked on, I wouldn't remove it.
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I have an appointment to have a front PDC sensor replaced tomorrow at BMW. The car is in the last month of factory warranty. Should I remove the Dinan before the appointment? I also have an aftermarket warranty that kicks in after OEM.

The thing is a PITA to remove and reinstall on the 4.4L…
Read this thread from the M5 side.
Evidently BMW now can tell if you have a piggyback or custom tune with ISTA.
It does make sense that with the tech these cars have now anything "abnormal" will be sent to the cloud, or wherever and stored. Higher boost and higher timing would fall into that category.

It really is up to the tech's/SA if they want to screw you over or not.......that's the way I understood it.

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I’m curious what this means for aftermarket warranties. I had an Assurant Platinum tossed in as part of this purchase.
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I’m curious what this means for aftermarket warranties. I had an Assurant Platinum tossed in as part of this purchase.
I don't know but let me know what you find out. I may go with a non BMW extended warranty if it means I can go to an independent shop and not get narc'd out on a tune later. I have factory until this fall and then CPO for a year.
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I don't know but let me know what you find out. I may go with a non BMW extended warranty if it means I can go to an independent shop and not get narc'd out on a tune later. I have factory until this fall and then CPO for a year.
This thread seems to answer the question

https://www.m5board.com/threads/carc...ropped.474825/

Seems I may cancel this policy and throw those funds into a repair slush fund if needed. Particularly as it seems the N63 is much more reliable these days.

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I don't know but let me know what you find out. I may go with a non BMW extended warranty if it means I can go to an independent shop and not get narc'd out on a tune later. I have factory until this fall and then CPO for a year.
This thread seems to answer the question

http://https://www.m5board.com/threads/carchex-assurant-warranty-dropped.474825/

Seems I may cancel this policy and throw those funds into a repair slush fund if needed. Particularly as it seems the N63 is much more reliable these days.
I couldn't get that thread to open. But I went over there and randomly found some other thread that did a satisfactory job of scaring the crap out of me about tuning a car.
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Just put in the bypass plug and hide it as best as you can.
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I have an appointment to have a front PDC sensor replaced tomorrow at BMW. The car is in the last month of factory warranty. Should I remove the Dinan before the appointment? I also have an aftermarket warranty that kicks in after OEM.

The thing is a PITA to remove and reinstall on the 4.4L…
I assume you have the v2 piggyback. Absolutely no need to remove it. Bypassing it with the jumper doesn't mean anything. It's either their or it's not. Don't sweat it. Dealers don't care for general warranty work, unless you have engine issues like misfires. I've brought mine to the dealer 3-4 times with it installed. The last time they replaced all my turbo coolant lines, so they had their heads all over the engine bay.

The only time I would remove it was if I had an engine issue related to internal combustion. In that case, I take it to my Dinan shop who put it in and they remove it without a trace and off to the dealer. Very unlikely.
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I took it in today and our local dealer does a walkthrough of the engine and undercarriage upon arrival with the customer. They didn’t notice the Dinan until I pointed it out. They weren’t concerned and said to pull it off if it’s related to engine work so the third party warranty doesn’t void.

Otherwise they pulled the maintenance history on the car for me and then scheduled repairs, replacements, or checks for any known G30 550 issues since my factory warranty ends on the 23rd. Top tier service for sure!

Looks like the car was a CPO in 2019, but that didn’t transfer over to the new owner…and it’s eaten three Vanos actuators, HPFP, and catalytic converter before it rolled 10k miles, now at 26k.
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I took it in today and our local dealer does a walkthrough of the engine and undercarriage upon arrival with the customer. They didn’t notice the Dinan until I pointed it out. They weren’t concerned and said to pull it off if it’s related to engine work so the third party warranty doesn’t void.

Otherwise they pulled the maintenance history on the car for me and then scheduled repairs, replacements, or checks for any known G30 550 issues since my factory warranty ends on the 23rd. Top tier service for sure!

Looks like the car was a CPO in 2019, but that didn’t transfer over to the new owner…and it’s eaten three Vanos actuators, HPFP, and catalytic converter before it rolled 10k miles, now at 26k.
So you are the "new owner" you reference? That's some significant stuff done for 26k miles or even 75k. The prior owner could have paid a small fee to transfer the CPO. It sucks the way BMW does this now, used to be attached to the VIN. Someone paid for that CPO, directly or indirectly.
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So you are the "new owner" you reference? That's some significant stuff done for 26k miles or even 75k. The prior owner could have paid a small fee to transfer the CPO. It sucks the way BMW does this now, used to be attached to the VIN. Someone paid for that CPO, directly or indirectly.
Yes, I’m the new owner. Picked it up from an out of town dealer. The plus side is all of the work was done early in the car’s life, and doesn’t seem to have any additional issues. I just spoke with my service advisor and they’ve given it a thorough review. Items being updated now are iDrive software, differential seal, and a PDC sensor. Otherwise, they found no mechanical issues with the car.
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So you are the "new owner" you reference? That's some significant stuff done for 26k miles or even 75k. The prior owner could have paid a small fee to transfer the CPO. It sucks the way BMW does this now, used to be attached to the VIN. Someone paid for that CPO, directly or indirectly.
Yes, I'm the new owner. Picked it up from an out of town dealer. The plus side is all of the work was done early in the car's life, and doesn't seem to have any additional issues. I just spoke with my service advisor and they've given it a thorough review. Items being updated now are iDrive software, differential seal, and a PDC sensor. Otherwise, they found no mechanical issues with the car.
That's good. In terms of the extended warranty comments, if you go third party, there is no need to strip the car of the tune unless they send out a claim adjuster which never happens. You can get it serviced anywhere and they have no obligation to comment on anything. Same for the dealer if you bring it there. This is one of the benefits of a third party warranty vs a BMW warranty. Arms length.
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That's good. In terms of the extended warranty comments, if you go third party, there is no need to strip the car of the tune unless they send out a claim adjuster which never happens. You can get it serviced anywhere and they have no obligation to comment on anything. Same for the dealer if you bring it there. This is one of the benefits of a third party warranty vs a BMW warranty. Arms length.
That’s precisely what the service advisor mentioned; only concern would be if an adjuster had to be on-site. This one was hard to pass up though given the mileage, options, and extra goodies (Dinan, BBS, carbon). I ended up getting the car for $52K plus cost of the third party warranty (5 years / 75K miles).

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That's good. In terms of the extended warranty comments, if you go third party, there is no need to strip the car of the tune unless they send out a claim adjuster which never happens. You can get it serviced anywhere and they have no obligation to comment on anything. Same for the dealer if you bring it there. This is one of the benefits of a third party warranty vs a BMW warranty. Arms length.
+1 to what Joe said.

Another tip is to call your local BMW indie shop and ask them who they recommend for 3rd Party warranty. They are the ones who deal with them every day. That's what I did. My factory is good through Oct 2023, but I will be getting extended for sure. Another bonus of the extended warranties is they go for another 3 years/75k miles ( or more ) so you get plenty of coverage.
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That’s precisely what the service advisor mentioned; only concern would be if an adjuster had to be on-site. This one was hard to pass up though given the mileage, options, and extra goodies (Dinan, BBS, carbon). I ended up getting the car for $52K plus cost of the third party warranty (5 years / 75K miles).

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That's good. In terms of the extended warranty comments, if you go third party, there is no need to strip the car of the tune unless they send out a claim adjuster which never happens. You can get it serviced anywhere and they have no obligation to comment on anything. Same for the dealer if you bring it there. This is one of the benefits of a third party warranty vs a BMW warranty. Arms length.
That's precisely what the service advisor mentioned; only concern would be if an adjuster had to be on-site. This one was hard to pass up though given the mileage, options, and extra goodies (Dinan, BBS, carbon). I ended up getting the car for $52K plus cost of the third party warranty (5 years / 75K miles).

https://www.lovesparkmercedes.com/us...abc16a4995.htm
Ah, it's all connecting with me. I remember your post 540vs M550. Just need to get used to your username. Yes, that car (your car) has a shit ton of legit upgrades. I'm not going to speak to hindsight, but you could have known all of the service history and the CPO thing very easily before you committed. You could have asked this same BMW dealer you are at right now to run the service history. I guess I'm over doing the hindsight thing.

It's a very nice looking car. Get that warranty, the service history scares me.
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That's good. In terms of the extended warranty comments, if you go third party, there is no need to strip the car of the tune unless they send out a claim adjuster which never happens. You can get it serviced anywhere and they have no obligation to comment on anything. Same for the dealer if you bring it there. This is one of the benefits of a third party warranty vs a BMW warranty. Arms length.
+1 to what Joe said.

Another tip is to call your local BMW indie shop and ask them who they recommend for 3rd Party warranty. They are the ones who deal with them every day. That's what I did. My factory is good through Oct 2023, but I will be getting extended for sure. Another bonus of the extended warranties is they go for another 3 years/75k miles ( or more ) so you get plenty of coverage.
This is my plan for when the CPO is up, I think. There are a few good Indy shops in town. I will probably call 2-3 and see if there's 3rd party that all agree on.
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Ah, it's all connecting with me. I remember your post 540vs M550. Just need to get used to your username. Yes, that car (your car) has a shit ton of legit upgrades. I'm not going to speak to hindsight, but you could have known all of the service history and the CPO thing very easily before you committed. You could have asked this same BMW dealer you are at right now to run the service history. I guess I'm over doing the hindsight thing.

It's a very nice looking car. Get that warranty, the service history scares me.
I tried getting the history from my usual BMW dealer (LaurelBMW), but wasn’t able to get a timely response. Funny enough, LaurelBMW sold the car new & CPO.

This was my first experience with this particular dealer (Bill Jacobs BMW), and they’ve been nothing short of wonderful. Given the new warranty is locked in for 5 years, I’m not overly concerned with potential issues. The dealer I bought it from was also very transparent that the current warranty expires at the end of the month, but wasn’t clear on the CPO status (Mercedes dealership).

Items being replaced right now: iDrive software update, differential seal, PDC sensor, and front brakes. The below is the maintenance history on the car.



And then here she is as the 135i goes on a transporter.

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Ah, it's all connecting with me. I remember your post 540vs M550. Just need to get used to your username. Yes, that car (your car) has a shit ton of legit upgrades. I'm not going to speak to hindsight, but you could have known all of the service history and the CPO thing very easily before you committed. You could have asked this same BMW dealer you are at right now to run the service history. I guess I'm over doing the hindsight thing.

It's a very nice looking car. Get that warranty, the service history scares me.
I tried getting the history from my usual BMW dealer (LaurelBMW), but wasn't able to get a timely response. Funny enough, LaurelBMW sold the car new & CPO.

This was my first experience with this particular dealer (Bill Jacobs BMW), and they've been nothing short of wonderful. Given the new warranty is locked in for 5 years, I'm not overly concerned with potential issues. The dealer I bought it from was also very transparent that the current warranty expires at the end of the month, but wasn't clear on the CPO status (Mercedes dealership).

Items being replaced right now: iDrive software update, differential seal, PDC sensor, and front brakes. The below is the maintenance history on the car.

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Beautiful car. If that's all real Carbon Fiber, the prior owner paid handsomely. Especially that rear diffuser. Congrats again and enjoy! All you need are LCI tails!
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I would highly suggest you remove the dinan if it's major engine repair. Although I'm not sure what threshold/incident would trigger a visit, the adjuster does come out at times. Just my experience from a few companies I've used in the past.
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