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Switch at&t hot spot to Verizon for our car?

Like title says, can We use Verizon service instead of at&t with our cars for hot spot provider ? I did the AT&T hot spot for last 4 weeks of new car, anyone able to swap it to their service? Or are our cars only able to use AT&T?
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Like title says, can We use Verizon service instead of at&t with our cars for hot spot provider ? I did the AT&T hot spot for last 4 weeks of new car, anyone able to swap it to their service? Or are our cars only able to use AT&T?
Would be nice, but no it's carrier locked to at&t. Uses an eSim that is embedded on the Hotspot circuit board and can't be changed. So, it's at&t or don't use it.

http://about.att.com/story/att_renew...agreement.html
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Like title says, can We use Verizon service instead of at&t with our cars for hot spot provider ? I did the AT&T hot spot for last 4 weeks of new car, anyone able to swap it to their service? Or are our cars only able to use AT&T?
Would be nice, but no it's carrier locked to at&t. Uses an eSim that is embedded on the Hotspot circuit board and can't be changed. So, it's at&t or don't use it.

http://about.att.com/story/att_renew...agreement.html
Correct. You can't change this with any manufacturer. GM uses AT&T. Chrysler uses Verizon (yuck). 😀
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I love having the hot spot in the car it's so easy, but I used 3 gigs in I guess 35 days and I believe it's $25 per 3 gigs if I renew after trial. My work pays for hot spot but I like the ease of it just being on in the car. Strange they lock it down to a specific carrier
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I love having the hot spot in the car it's so easy, but I used 3 gigs in I guess 35 days and I believe it's $25 per 3 gigs if I renew after trial. My work pays for hot spot but I like the ease of it just being on in the car. Strange they lock it down to a specific carrier
With AT&T you can add your BMW's hotspot to your existing AT&T account (shared data or unlimited) as a new line and get unlimited data for $20/mo. There are other data plans available too. It's called Connected Car. If you're still within the initial trial period your new data plan will not be active until the trial ends or you exceed the free 3 gigs they give you. Here is the URL:

https://www.att.com/plans/connected-car.html
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I love having the hot spot in the car it's so easy, but I used 3 gigs in I guess 35 days and I believe it's $25 per 3 gigs if I renew after trial. My work pays for hot spot but I like the ease of it just being on in the car. Strange they lock it down to a specific carrier
If you're an at&t customer it's $20/unlimited/month. However in at&t fashion unlimited means 22GB/mo then they throttle you. And I can tell you from experience they tend to throttle hard! It's not terribly difficult to use 22GB/month with kids on tablets or a laptop that's on the net.

For non at&t customers it's $25/unlimited/month. Same throttling rules apply.

I understand why BMW does this exclusive deal. Very likely at&t in exchange gives BMW free or super cheap data usage of at&t network for sending map updates, traffic data, etc. It's also likely at&t gives BMW kickbacks to offset the cost of the wifi Hotspot hardware.

That said, at&t usually has the slowest LTE in my area. They're too busy marketing their 5Ge nonsense. Ho hum.
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I love having the hot spot in the car it's so easy, but I used 3 gigs in I guess 35 days and I believe it's $25 per 3 gigs if I renew after trial. My work pays for hot spot but I like the ease of it just being on in the car. Strange they lock it down to a specific carrier
If you're an at&t customer it's $20/unlimited/month. However in at&t fashion unlimited means 22GB/mo then they throttle you. And I can tell you from experience they tend to throttle hard! It's not terribly difficult to use 22GB/month with kids on tablets or a laptop that's on the net.

For non at&t customers it's $25/unlimited/month. Same throttling rules apply.

I understand why BMW does this exclusive deal. Very likely at&t in exchange gives BMW free or super cheap data usage of at&t network for sending map updates, traffic data, etc. It's also likely at&t gives BMW kickbacks to offset the cost of the wifi Hotspot hardware.

That said, at&t usually has the slowest LTE in my area. They're too busy marketing their 5Ge nonsense. Ho hum.
5Ge is really called LTE Evolution. It is enhanced 4G LTE, but only in select markets like Houston. It is misleading for sure. And using 22GB in one month is your car's hotspot would be impressive. All carriers use QoS to slow down traffic after a certain threshold.

When 5G goes mainstream it will be more expensive and you won't see unlimited data plans for quite some time. Additionally iPhones won't have a 5G modem until 2020 or 2021 - especially after the Qualcomm fallout.

Personally I like AT&T better than Verizon.
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I love having the hot spot in the car it's so easy, but I used 3 gigs in I guess 35 days and I believe it's $25 per 3 gigs if I renew after trial. My work pays for hot spot but I like the ease of it just being on in the car. Strange they lock it down to a specific carrier
If you're an at&t customer it's $20/unlimited/month. However in at&t fashion unlimited means 22GB/mo then they throttle you. And I can tell you from experience they tend to throttle hard! It's not terribly difficult to use 22GB/month with kids on tablets or a laptop that's on the net.

For non at&t customers it's $25/unlimited/month. Same throttling rules apply.

I understand why BMW does this exclusive deal. Very likely at&t in exchange gives BMW free or super cheap data usage of at&t network for sending map updates, traffic data, etc. It's also likely at&t gives BMW kickbacks to offset the cost of the wifi Hotspot hardware.

That said, at&t usually has the slowest LTE in my area. They're too busy marketing their 5Ge nonsense. Ho hum.
5Ge is really called LTE Evolution. It is enhanced 4G LTE, but only in select markets like Houston. It is misleading for sure. And using 22GB in one month is your car's hotspot would be impressive. All carriers use QoS to slow down traffic after a certain threshold.

When 5G goes mainstream it will be more expensive and you won't see unlimited data plans for quite some time. Additionally iPhones won't have a 5G modem until 2020 or 2021 - especially after the Qualcomm fallout.

Personally I like AT&T better than Verizon.
Actually it's called LTE Advanced. There's no such thing as LTE Evolution. Unless it's a made up at&t marketing term. Anyway, it's still a lie for at&t to even try to classify LTE-A as 5G in any way shape or form. 5G or 5Ge. It's all nonsense when the network is 4G.

3GPP created LTE Advanced in 2009 well before 5G was anything more than a buzzword. LTE-A includes MIMO, 4x4 carrier aggregation and 256 qam. Everything used by the majors today including at&t. Meanwhile try to find places where at&t will actually use 4x4 CA. Few! Nevertheless, it's a 4G technology.

LTE Advanced Pro one can argue includes some 5G technologies. However at&t LTE network doesn't include Pro technologies. Nor do phone chipsets support the Pro features.

At&t is the Mis-leader in wireless.
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I love having the hot spot in the car it's so easy, but I used 3 gigs in I guess 35 days and I believe it's $25 per 3 gigs if I renew after trial. My work pays for hot spot but I like the ease of it just being on in the car. Strange they lock it down to a specific carrier
If you're an at&t customer it's $20/unlimited/month. However in at&t fashion unlimited means 22GB/mo then they throttle you. And I can tell you from experience they tend to throttle hard! It's not terribly difficult to use 22GB/month with kids on tablets or a laptop that's on the net.

For non at&t customers it's $25/unlimited/month. Same throttling rules apply.

I understand why BMW does this exclusive deal. Very likely at&t in exchange gives BMW free or super cheap data usage of at&t network for sending map updates, traffic data, etc. It's also likely at&t gives BMW kickbacks to offset the cost of the wifi Hotspot hardware.

That said, at&t usually has the slowest LTE in my area. They're too busy marketing their 5Ge nonsense. Ho hum.
5Ge is really called LTE Evolution. It is enhanced 4G LTE, but only in select markets like Houston. It is misleading for sure. And using 22GB in one month is your car's hotspot would be impressive. All carriers use QoS to slow down traffic after a certain threshold.

When 5G goes mainstream it will be more expensive and you won't see unlimited data plans for quite some time. Additionally iPhones won't have a 5G modem until 2020 or 2021 - especially after the Qualcomm fallout.

Personally I like AT&T better than Verizon.
Actually it's called LTE Advanced. And it's still a lie for at&t to even try to classify LTE-A as 5G in any way shape or form.

3GPP created LTE Advanced in 2009 well before 5G was anything more than a buzzword. LTE-A includes MIMO, 4x4 carrier aggregation and 256 qam. Everything used by the majors today including at&t. Meanwhile try to find places where at&t will actually use 4x4 CA. Few! Nevertheless, it's a 4G technology.

LTE Advanced Pro one can argue includes some 5G technologies. However at&t LTE network doesn't include Pro technologies.

At&t is the Mis-leader in wireless.
https://www.att.com/5g/consumer/5g-evolution
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I love having the hot spot in the car it's so easy, but I used 3 gigs in I guess 35 days and I believe it's $25 per 3 gigs if I renew after trial. My work pays for hot spot but I like the ease of it just being on in the car. Strange they lock it down to a specific carrier
If you're an at&t customer it's $20/unlimited/month. However in at&t fashion unlimited means 22GB/mo then they throttle you. And I can tell you from experience they tend to throttle hard! It's not terribly difficult to use 22GB/month with kids on tablets or a laptop that's on the net.

For non at&t customers it's $25/unlimited/month. Same throttling rules apply.

I understand why BMW does this exclusive deal. Very likely at&t in exchange gives BMW free or super cheap data usage of at&t network for sending map updates, traffic data, etc. It's also likely at&t gives BMW kickbacks to offset the cost of the wifi Hotspot hardware.

That said, at&t usually has the slowest LTE in my area. They're too busy marketing their 5Ge nonsense. Ho hum.
5Ge is really called LTE Evolution. It is enhanced 4G LTE, but only in select markets like Houston. It is misleading for sure. And using 22GB in one month is your car's hotspot would be impressive. All carriers use QoS to slow down traffic after a certain threshold.

When 5G goes mainstream it will be more expensive and you won't see unlimited data plans for quite some time. Additionally iPhones won't have a 5G modem until 2020 or 2021 - especially after the Qualcomm fallout.

Personally I like AT&T better than Verizon.
Actually it's called LTE Advanced. And it's still a lie for at&t to even try to classify LTE-A as 5G in any way shape or form.

3GPP created LTE Advanced in 2009 well before 5G was anything more than a buzzword. LTE-A includes MIMO, 4x4 carrier aggregation and 256 qam. Everything used by the majors today including at&t. Meanwhile try to find places where at&t will actually use 4x4 CA. Few! Nevertheless, it's a 4G technology.

LTE Advanced Pro one can argue includes some 5G technologies. However at&t LTE network doesn't include Pro technologies.

At&t is the Mis-leader in wireless.
https://www.att.com/5g/consumer/5g-evolution
Like I said, a made up at&t marketing term. Don't get sucked up in their lies. Or do you work for them? In which case I understand your support.

3GPP is the standards body for mobile telephony. If they didn't create it, it doesn't exist.
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I love having the hot spot in the car it's so easy, but I used 3 gigs in I guess 35 days and I believe it's $25 per 3 gigs if I renew after trial. My work pays for hot spot but I like the ease of it just being on in the car. Strange they lock it down to a specific carrier
If you're an at&t customer it's $20/unlimited/month. However in at&t fashion unlimited means 22GB/mo then they throttle you. And I can tell you from experience they tend to throttle hard! It's not terribly difficult to use 22GB/month with kids on tablets or a laptop that's on the net.

For non at&t customers it's $25/unlimited/month. Same throttling rules apply.

I understand why BMW does this exclusive deal. Very likely at&t in exchange gives BMW free or super cheap data usage of at&t network for sending map updates, traffic data, etc. It's also likely at&t gives BMW kickbacks to offset the cost of the wifi Hotspot hardware.

That said, at&t usually has the slowest LTE in my area. They're too busy marketing their 5Ge nonsense. Ho hum.
5Ge is really called LTE Evolution. It is enhanced 4G LTE, but only in select markets like Houston. It is misleading for sure. And using 22GB in one month is your car's hotspot would be impressive. All carriers use QoS to slow down traffic after a certain threshold.

When 5G goes mainstream it will be more expensive and you won't see unlimited data plans for quite some time. Additionally iPhones won't have a 5G modem until 2020 or 2021 - especially after the Qualcomm fallout.

Personally I like AT&T better than Verizon.
Actually it's called LTE Advanced. And it's still a lie for at&t to even try to classify LTE-A as 5G in any way shape or form.

3GPP created LTE Advanced in 2009 well before 5G was anything more than a buzzword. LTE-A includes MIMO, 4x4 carrier aggregation and 256 qam. Everything used by the majors today including at&t. Meanwhile try to find places where at&t will actually use 4x4 CA. Few! Nevertheless, it's a 4G technology.

LTE Advanced Pro one can argue includes some 5G technologies. However at&t LTE network doesn't include Pro technologies.

At&t is the Mis-leader in wireless.
https://www.att.com/5g/consumer/5g-evolution
Like I said, a made up at&t marketing term. Don't get sucked up in their lies. Or do you work for them? In which case I understand your support.
Pipe down, tiger. No, I do not work for them. I know it's not 5G and that this is a marketing ploy. 5G modems are only in a few devices anyway - plus that infrastructure is so limited it doesn't really matter right now.
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I love having the hot spot in the car it's so easy, but I used 3 gigs in I guess 35 days and I believe it's $25 per 3 gigs if I renew after trial. My work pays for hot spot but I like the ease of it just being on in the car. Strange they lock it down to a specific carrier
If you're an at&t customer it's $20/unlimited/month. However in at&t fashion unlimited means 22GB/mo then they throttle you. And I can tell you from experience they tend to throttle hard! It's not terribly difficult to use 22GB/month with kids on tablets or a laptop that's on the net.

For non at&t customers it's $25/unlimited/month. Same throttling rules apply.

I understand why BMW does this exclusive deal. Very likely at&t in exchange gives BMW free or super cheap data usage of at&t network for sending map updates, traffic data, etc. It's also likely at&t gives BMW kickbacks to offset the cost of the wifi Hotspot hardware.

That said, at&t usually has the slowest LTE in my area. They're too busy marketing their 5Ge nonsense. Ho hum.
5Ge is really called LTE Evolution. It is enhanced 4G LTE, but only in select markets like Houston. It is misleading for sure. And using 22GB in one month is your car's hotspot would be impressive. All carriers use QoS to slow down traffic after a certain threshold.

When 5G goes mainstream it will be more expensive and you won't see unlimited data plans for quite some time. Additionally iPhones won't have a 5G modem until 2020 or 2021 - especially after the Qualcomm fallout.

Personally I like AT&T better than Verizon.
Actually it's called LTE Advanced. And it's still a lie for at&t to even try to classify LTE-A as 5G in any way shape or form.

3GPP created LTE Advanced in 2009 well before 5G was anything more than a buzzword. LTE-A includes MIMO, 4x4 carrier aggregation and 256 qam. Everything used by the majors today including at&t. Meanwhile try to find places where at&t will actually use 4x4 CA. Few! Nevertheless, it's a 4G technology.

LTE Advanced Pro one can argue includes some 5G technologies. However at&t LTE network doesn't include Pro technologies.

At&t is the Mis-leader in wireless.
https://www.att.com/5g/consumer/5g-evolution
Like I said, a made up at&t marketing term. Don't get sucked up in their lies. Or do you work for them? In which case I understand your support.
Pipe down, tiger. No, I do not work for them. I know it's not 5G and that this is a marketing ploy. 5G modems are only in a few devices anyway - plus that infrastructure is so limited it doesn't really matter right now.
Now you're talking. Actually I saw u r from Texas, home of the evil empire. So, I thought.... Maybe. Was wondering why you'd support that lie. I feel better now. . We can carry on now.
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I love having the hot spot in the car it's so easy, but I used 3 gigs in I guess 35 days and I believe it's $25 per 3 gigs if I renew after trial. My work pays for hot spot but I like the ease of it just being on in the car. Strange they lock it down to a specific carrier
If you're an at&t customer it's $20/unlimited/month. However in at&t fashion unlimited means 22GB/mo then they throttle you. And I can tell you from experience they tend to throttle hard! It's not terribly difficult to use 22GB/month with kids on tablets or a laptop that's on the net.

For non at&t customers it's $25/unlimited/month. Same throttling rules apply.

I understand why BMW does this exclusive deal. Very likely at&t in exchange gives BMW free or super cheap data usage of at&t network for sending map updates, traffic data, etc. It's also likely at&t gives BMW kickbacks to offset the cost of the wifi Hotspot hardware.

That said, at&t usually has the slowest LTE in my area. They're too busy marketing their 5Ge nonsense. Ho hum.
5Ge is really called LTE Evolution. It is enhanced 4G LTE, but only in select markets like Houston. It is misleading for sure. And using 22GB in one month is your car's hotspot would be impressive. All carriers use QoS to slow down traffic after a certain threshold.

When 5G goes mainstream it will be more expensive and you won't see unlimited data plans for quite some time. Additionally iPhones won't have a 5G modem until 2020 or 2021 - especially after the Qualcomm fallout.

Personally I like AT&T better than Verizon.
Actually it's called LTE Advanced. And it's still a lie for at&t to even try to classify LTE-A as 5G in any way shape or form.

3GPP created LTE Advanced in 2009 well before 5G was anything more than a buzzword. LTE-A includes MIMO, 4x4 carrier aggregation and 256 qam. Everything used by the majors today including at&t. Meanwhile try to find places where at&t will actually use 4x4 CA. Few! Nevertheless, it's a 4G technology.

LTE Advanced Pro one can argue includes some 5G technologies. However at&t LTE network doesn't include Pro technologies.

At&t is the Mis-leader in wireless.
https://www.att.com/5g/consumer/5g-evolution
Like I said, a made up at&t marketing term. Don't get sucked up in their lies. Or do you work for them? In which case I understand your support.
Pipe down, tiger. No, I do not work for them. I know it's not 5G and that this is a marketing ploy. 5G modems are only in a few devices anyway - plus that infrastructure is so limited it doesn't really matter right now.
Now you're talking. Actually I saw u r from Texas, home of the evil empire. So, I thought.... Maybe. Was wondering why you'd support that lie. I feel better now. . We can carry on now.
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