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      05-07-2019, 08:41 AM   #177
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You guys keep thinking that Trump has this in the bag. I would agree.....if not for Biden. Remember, Trump is a Gaff-o-matic too and that meant nothing during the election, people voted for him in droves.

Mark my words, as much as I don't want it to be true, I think Trump will lose the election if up against Biden.
Being a creep with respect to women also meant nothing but being a creep with respect to children may be difficult to overcome...
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You guys keep thinking that Trump has this in the bag. I would agree.....if not for Biden. Remember, Trump is a Gaff-o-matic too and that meant nothing during the election, people voted for him in droves.

Biden is currently polling at over 40% in the Democrat primary polling. Sanders is at 20% and no other candidate breaks the single digits. There is a strong likelihood that he will win the nomination. If he does, he has enough sway over the rust belt blue collar workers that they will choose him over Trump. Many who are not big fans of Trump but would have voted for him anyway over any of the other loons running on the Democrat Party ticket will slide over into Biden's camp as well.

Mark my words, as much as I don't want it to be true, I think Trump will lose the election if up against Biden.
I don't think so.

Biden has a lot of negative baggage and a picture is worth a thousand words. I'd run the creepy videos 24/7. Especially the one's with children. I'd then find each and every man that was around during the photos and videos and interview them on how they felt in the moment. I'd then interview Jeff Sessions and ask him why he slapped Biden's hand away when Creepy Uncle Joe was going for his grand daughter.

My next step would be to hang every negative Obama policy around his neck and set them on fire. The Coup De Gras would be his son's relationship with the Ukrainians and how he tampered with the justice system of a sovereign nation by engaging in a pattern of blackmail to keep his son out of jail.

Game. Set. Match.
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Someone get a camera and ask Joe if he was present during any FISA discussions...

Joe's got a lot of baggage that's about to be put on display, imo.
Ukraine.
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Anita Hill.
Pedo tendencies.

Ammo o plenty and yes it's going to get ugly...dem on dem. Not to mention what Trump would do.


Re: polls. I read a story from the young Turks claiming the polls are asking a disproportionate amount of older citizens. True? Don't know but feel free to look up their piece.

Imo, Joe is going to lose. Harris is staying pretty low profile. Watch out for her. Hunch.
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Someone get a camera and ask Joe if he was present during any FISA discussions...

Joe's got a lot of baggage that's about to be put on display, imo.
Ukraine.
Spying.
Anita Hill.
Pedo tendencies.

Ammo o plenty and yes it's going to get ugly...dem on dem. Not to mention what Trump would do.


Re: polls. I read a story from the young Turks claiming the polls are asking a disproportionate amount of older citizens. True? Don't know but feel free to look up their piece.

Imo, Joe is going to lose. Harris is staying pretty low profile. Watch out for her. Hunch.
That was the case in elections past as pollsters called primarily land lines, which most "younger" folks don't have. it's like saying I'm only going to collect my polling data at the bingo parlor.

Now though, the pollsters are definitely calling cells as I get the calls all the time. I think it's still swayed though as the older folks with cell phones tend to answer any number that calls (based on my small sample size of watching my parents and inlaws) while younger folks cant even be bothered to set up an outgoing voicemail, let alone pick up the call.
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I don't think so.

Biden has a lot of negative baggage and a picture is worth a thousand words. I'd run the creepy videos 24/7. Especially the one's with children. I'd then find each and every man that was around during the photos and videos and interview them on how they felt in the moment. I'd then interview Jeff Sessions and ask him why he slapped Biden's hand away when Creepy Uncle Joe was going for his grand daughter.

My next step would be to hang every negative Obama policy around his neck and set them on fire. The Coup De Gras would be his son's relationship with the Ukrainians and how he tampered with the justice system of a sovereign nation by engaging in a pattern of blackmail to keep his son out of jail.

Game. Set. Match.
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Sorry...I was having flashback to my time in politics.
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I don't think so.

Biden has a lot of negative baggage and a picture is worth a thousand words. I'd run the creepy videos 24/7. Especially the one's with children. I'd then find each and every man that was around during the photos and videos and interview them on how they felt in the moment. I'd then interview Jeff Sessions and ask him why he slapped Biden's hand away when Creepy Uncle Joe was going for his grand daughter.

My next step would be to hang every negative Obama policy around his neck and set them on fire. The Coup De Gras would be his son's relationship with the Ukrainians and how he tampered with the justice system of a sovereign nation by engaging in a pattern of blackmail to keep his son out of jail.

Game. Set. Match.

We shall see, sir - we shall see. Honestly, I hope you are right. Realistically, I feel that roughly half the country is probably going to vote against Trump, similar to the stats of last election. It's the ability of a candidate to grab the rust belt (OH, IN, PA) and also who grabs FL that is going to make or break this election in my opinion.

Going up against a coastal liberal, I think Trump can hold his own in those first three states and believe it's still a toss up in FL.

Going up against Biden, I think FL will remain a tossup but I think he will lose some, if not all of the rust belt states. If he loses even one or two of those, he will probably lose the election.

Only time will tell.....right?
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We shall see, sir - we shall see. Honestly, I hope you are right. Realistically, I feel that roughly half the country is probably going to vote against Trump, similar to the stats of last election. It's the ability of a candidate to grab the rust belt (OH, IN, PA) and also who grabs FL that is going to make or break this election in my opinion.

Going up against a coastal liberal, I think Trump can hold his own in those first three states and believe it's still a toss up in FL.

Going up against Biden, I think FL will remain a tossup but I think he will lose some, if not all of the rust belt states. If he loses even one or two of those, he will probably lose the election.

Only time will tell.....right?
I agree on much this. I think FL will fall for Mr. Trump, convincingly. I spend time in the panhandle as my manufacturing partner is there and Mr. Trump is quite popular with a large cross section of people, speaking anecdotally of course.

You are 100% correct on letting time handle it.

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Interesting to see this massive lead that Biden has over Bernie in the polls. For all the talk about socialized healthcare and other hard left policies, it seems the majority of dems are still looking for a slightly left of center candidate.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-amer...2310-joe-biden
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Interesting to see this massive lead that Biden has over Bernie in the polls. For all the talk about socialized healthcare and other hard left policies, it seems the majority of dems are still looking for a slightly left of center candidate.
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I agree on much this. I think FL will fall for Mr. Trump, convincingly. I spend time in the panhandle as my manufacturing partner is there and Mr. Trump is quite popular with a large cross section of people, speaking anecdotally of course.

You are 100% correct on letting time handle it.

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Very true - remember, my dear sir, that I was born and raised in Florida and still have family there. So my radar is pretty in tune with that state. The panhandle is not indicative of Florida as a whole, in my humble opinion. Us Floridians even call the panhandle "LA", for Lower Alabama. That demographic cross section is diametrically opposed to the bulk of the remaining parts of Florida from about Alachua County on down.

Also remember that the largest bulk of the population lives in the metro Orlando region, Tampa-Sarasota-St. Pete region, and the Gold Coast of Palm Beach, Fort Lauderdale, and Miami. The Gold Coast is nearly as tight a Democrat stronghold as NYC. Orlando and Tampa Bay areas are more of a tossup, but will typically lean slightly left.

When it comes to FL - it really will depend on who can drum up more support for their candidate and actually get them to the polls. I believe Trump will have this benefit if he is running against any of the loons on the Democrat ticket, but believe it will be more of a 50/50 proposition if Biden is the Democrat nominee.

Of course, this is all conjecture, but I feel I do have some solid points - of course you do as well, my dear sir. Curious to see how this all turns out. I hope I am wrong.
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DETRoadster , do you think I should tweet the strategy to Mr. Trump?
I think he and his team are likely a few steps beyond even your plan already. I imagine it to be on two separate sheets of paper, each with 1/2 the campaign recipe, locked in two safes, with no one but Trump knowing the contents of both. Like the KFC secret recipe.
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Interesting to see this massive lead that Biden has over Bernie in the polls. For all the talk about socialized healthcare and other hard left policies, it seems the majority of dems are still looking for a slightly left of center candidate.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-amer...2310-joe-biden
They are. Bernie's numbers tanked when Biden finally announced. Lots of folks like me were waiting in the wings to jump ship to a more centrist candidate.
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Very true - remember, my dear sir, that I was born and raised in Florida and still have family there. So my radar is pretty in tune with that state. The panhandle is not indicative of Florida as a whole, in my humble opinion. Us Floridians even call the panhandle "LA", for Lower Alabama. That demographic cross section is diametrically opposed to the bulk of the remaining parts of Florida from about Alachua County on down.

Also remember that the largest bulk of the population lives in the metro Orlando region, Tampa-Sarasota-St. Pete region, and the Gold Coast of Palm Beach, Fort Lauderdale, and Miami. The Gold Coast is nearly as tight a Democrat stronghold as NYC. Orlando and Tampa Bay areas are more of a tossup, but will typically lean slightly left.

When it comes to FL - it really will depend on who can drum up more support for their candidate and actually get them to the polls. I believe Trump will have this benefit if he is running against any of the loons on the Democrat ticket, but believe it will be more of a 50/50 proposition if Biden is the Democrat nominee.

Of course, this is all conjecture, but I feel I do have some solid points - of course you do as well, my dear sir. Curious to see how this all turns out. I hope I am wrong.
Good points, sir.

I think that it will be 52-48 to Mr. Trump. I'll lock it in and we can check after the election. Winner gets to select the steak restaurant of his choice!!
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Good points, sir.

I think that it will be 52-48 to Mr. Trump. I'll lock it in and we can check after the election. Winner gets to select the steak restaurant of his choice!!
Ha - deal! I will wager 51-49 Biden. Game on for the steak dinner, but we'll have to put a hard cap on nothing nicer than a Morton's or Ruth Chris' - I'm just a lowly CPA after all and can't swing the tabs at those big baller restaurants y'all rich folks like to attend if I lose.

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Ha - deal! I will wager 51-49 Biden. Game on for the steak dinner, but we'll have to put a hard cap on nothing nicer than a Morton's or Ruth Chris' - I'm just a lowly CPA after all and can't swing the tabs at those big baller restaurants y'all rich folks like to attend if I lose.

Perfect! And you just picked my two favorite places so no matter who loses, we both win! LOL!

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Run Silent be careful with that one. There was a very similar wager placed between myself and MK, possibly regarding how long it would be before Mr. Trump was impeached. I can't be sure who exactly it is that has so far welshed on the bet, but there is a 50% chance it was NOT me!
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Ha - deal! I will wager 51-49 Biden. Game on for the steak dinner, but we'll have to put a hard cap on nothing nicer than a Morton's or Ruth Chris' - I'm just a lowly CPA after all and can't swing the tabs at those big baller restaurants y'all rich folks like to attend if I lose.

To be clear, would you be driving your Ferrari or BMW to said restaurant?

I don't bet MK. I like to make good on bets, which would necessitate a flight somewhere, which would cost me way too much money, and I can't really justify a thousand dollar flight to make good on an internet bet to my wife. There would be a little doghouse waiting for me when I arrived back.
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Run Silent be careful with that one. There was a very similar wager placed between myself and MK, possibly regarding how long it would be before Mr. Trump was impeached. I can't be sure who exactly it is that has so far welshed on the bet, but there is a 50% chance it was NOT me!
Touche, although you do live some distance away on the other coast....

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To be clear, would you be driving your Ferrari or BMW to said restaurant?

I don't bet MK. I like to make good on bets, which would necessitate a flight somewhere, which would cost me way too much money, and I can't really justify a thousand dollar flight to make good on an internet bet to my wife. There would be a little doghouse waiting for me when I arrived back.
Fair point. Although that drive is a bit too far for the aging prancing horse. I believe the Mini Cooper would make that journey.



With respect to distance, I am right next to the Tail of the Dragon, so certainly an enticing proposition for him to visit me. Otherwise, I am frequently in other locations which are only about a 3hr drive from his location, that isn't too terribly out of the way I imagine.

But - I shall not lose.
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Touche, although you do live some distance away on the other coast....
He regaled me with stories of travels on the regular to LA. Is it *MY* fault he meant something other than the City of Angels????
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He regaled me with stories of travels on the regular to LA. Is it *MY* fault he meant something other than the City of Angels????
Meh, LA; Los Angeles, Lower Alabama, Louisiana, it's all the same.
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