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      02-15-2020, 05:51 PM   #3785
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Just got a new semi auto rifle for the 'range' after completing the long reg process.
Oh good a guessing game. semi auto, Brit, I’m going to go with.........L1A1
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Oh good a guessing game. semi auto, Brit, I’m going to go with.........L1A1
No kidding, S&W MP15 22, anything above 22 only bolt action allowed.
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No kidding, S&W MP15 22, anything above 22 only bolt action allowed.
That kind of sucks but the M&P .22 is a fun carbine non the less. Enjoy.
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That kind of sucks but the M&P .22 is a fun carbine non the less. Enjoy.
sucks? You should try a carbine yourself mate,be more accurate over a distance than a hand held..shaky shaky
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sucks? You should try a carbine yourself mate,be more accurate over a distance than a hand held..shaky shaky
I love carbines. I have two USGI M1 Carbines( Saginaw, NPM), Marlin 336c and a Ruger 10/22. I said sucks in reference to not being allowed to own a centerfire battle rifle. Unfortunately many in our govt and populace are trying to do the same here.
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Range day!

Nice - I have a P365SAS on order that shows it will be delivered tomorrow. I have wanted one since they were introduced but they kept tempting me with new deals and new colors. When I saw the SAS though - I knew my wait
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I hope I enjoy it. Looking for something smaller than my 320 and larger than my LCP - I think it fit the bill.
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I love carbines. I have two USGI M1 Carbines( Saginaw, NPM), Marlin 336c and a Ruger 10/22. I said sucks in reference to not being allowed to own a centerfire battle rifle. Unfortunately many in our govt and populace are trying to do the same here.
I see now there's nothing better I'd like than to own than an original AK-47,(but can't here) Probably the deadliest s/a that's caused more casualties good or bad than any other in the meantime I'll enjoy my 25 shot S&W and you your Marlin and Ruger. Had to install a metal cabinet to hold it with only me handling the key.
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I see now there's nothing better I'd like than to own than an original AK-47,(but can't here) Probably the deadliest s/a that's caused more casualties good or bad than any other in the meantime I'll enjoy my 25 shot S&W and you your Marlin and Ruger. Had to install a metal cabinet to hold it with only me handling the key.
Same in Canuckistan. I keep the safe in the whisk(e)y room near my humidor, we all it Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.
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Same in Canuckistan. I keep the safe in the whisk(e)y room near my humidor, we all it Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.
The ATF room Would love to carry the S&W in my car on a special rack if I could like they do in Texas.
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Made a few changes to the Shockwave. Removed the birds eye grip and added a TacStar adapter and SBA3 brace. Much easier to shoot this way and didn't add much overall length when collapsed.

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So.... you took a pistol grip firearm and added a collapsible stock to it making it a shoulder mountable shotgun.......

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So.... you took a pistol grip firearm and added a collapsible stock to it making it shoulder mountable.......
No, he added a pistol brace
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Yep, I'm big into guns. I have a safe full of AR's, nice precision bolt .308 rifles, a couple tactical and hunting ahotfuns, and pistols. I've had to force myself to stop buying guns...and start buying more mags, ammo, and reloading supplies.
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No, he added a pistol brace
Isn't that shockwave technically an AOW.."any other weapon" as far as the ATF is concerned? Adding a pistol brace to one might not be legal.....but some of that ATF stuff is damn near impossible to figure out...and makes no sense.
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Isn't that shockwave technically an AOW.."any other weapon" as far as the ATF is concerned? Adding a pistol brace to one might not be legal.....but some of that ATF stuff is damn near impossible to figure out...and makes no sense.

This.

If the OP is aware of what he has done, then I'm out. I just wanted him to know he "may" be in violation of a federal law.

To me, it's not worth the risk and I will gladly pay the $200 tax stamp. Then you don't have to worry.
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So jealous, I would have loved to get a 320 but they aren't allowed in good ol' California
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So jealous, I would have loved to get a 320 but they aren't allowed in good ol' California
I feel some of your pain, living in MA and seeing all the cool stuff on this thread smh.MA is bad but CA is just ridiculous
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This.

If the OP is aware of what he has done, then I'm out. I just wanted him to know he "may" be in violation of a federal law.

To me, it's not worth the risk and I will gladly pay the $200 tax stamp. Then you don't have to worry.
The ATF has ruled on this one:

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“To the extent the January 2015 Open Letter implied or has been construed to hold that incidental, sporadic, or situational ‘use’ of an arm-brace (in its original approved configuration) equipped firearm from a firing position at or near the shoulder was sufficient to constitute a ‘redesign,’ such interpretations are incorrect and not consistent with ATF’s interpretation of the statute or the manner in which it has historically been enforced.”
In other words, shouldering a pistol grip firearm fitted with a pistol brace, but not a collapsible buttstock, is perfectly fine.
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Isn't that shockwave technically an AOW.."any other weapon" as far as the ATF is concerned? Adding a pistol brace to one might not be legal.....but some of that ATF stuff is damn near impossible to figure out...and makes no sense.
Shockwave is classified as a firearm.
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Shockwave is classified as a firearm.

I'm 95% sure the shockwave is classified by the ATF as an AOW (any other weapon). Whatever it is firearm, or aow...... I'm pretty sure if you add a brace to it, it's now classified as a short barrelled shotgun....and you need a stamp for that. Like I said....alot of the ATF stuff is really sketchy on how they interpret stuff and classify it.

Look at pistol braces. First they were legal, then they were only legal if you didn't shoulder them, now they are back to being legal if you shoulder them.....they can change the laws as they see fit.

Either way.....if it was me, I would just shoot it....and not post pictures online of it.

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