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      07-05-2019, 10:59 AM   #23
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I saw that post, trying to find out if local 4wheel dyno place has dynoJet or mustang dyno. DynoJets are known to read 10-15% higher than mustang dyno's. I been told it's the loading method of mustang dyno's that pulls real #'s and why they are lower. Mustang dyno's have been known to hurt feelings but that's also why I've always used them so I get real figures. If that's true or not I don't know, but what I've been told and read over the years.
the dinan and the above dyno are on a mustang dyno which is why they read lower, and the one from the other thread is on a dynojet which is why it reads higher.

i have no doubt about the figures these cars are putting out to the wheels on the dyno, but the question is, how much drivetrain loss there is.

and also keep in mind when you compare your m550i to the m5 you previously had, stock 2014 M5 Competitions dyno 560/490 to the wheels on dynojet, which is wayyyy more than what a "600 hp" dinan m550i puts out on a dyno.

https://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=962214

so while dinan "claims" 600 hp for these tuned M550i's..the m5 you previously had was way over 600 hp that's why your previous m5 still feels considerably faster, especially off roll speeds.

all in all, these cars are all underrated and big HP figures are thrown out like nothing, but ultimately a m550i needs a stage 2 tune and downpipes to be able to beat a stock 2014 M5 COMP off a roll IMO..
Stock my M5 on mustang dyno 504 or 509 whp and 516 or 520 rwtq, I'd have to find my sheets.
I remember looking and asking Dinan about their dyno they used and they took the wheels off and pretty sure bolted machine to the axles. But doesn't Dinan say like 540 and like 590 tq was what their M550 had stock at crank? I'd have to look back but remember thinking what car would throw 100 more torque? The dyno people can manipulate numbers, I remember a guy being at the shop couple of yrs ago and actually asked the guy to modify values so his dyno sheets read higher, I didn't get the point to that?
Yes with the Dinan V2 the car is closer to stock M5 speed from a roll than it was, might be real close, but their 2 different cars, M5 was refined but a real brute! This car is a brute also but more refined. Wish I could go full tune but I've heard a lot of horror stories of blown engines and $40k engine bill.

Sorry to OP for totally hijacking his thread!
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We can tune in house locally. We have a car scheduled for July 11. Will take a baseline of that car and dyno again after. That will be a stage 1 on stock downpipes.

We have a dynapack dyno and some AWD cars are a problem but we have ran AWD drive cars with no issues before.
Any update in regards to the Dyno you had scheduled for the 11th?
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Any update in regards to the Dyno you had scheduled for the 11th?
Customer will be returning, we did not have time
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Customer will be returning, we did not have time

What a shame! Keep us in the loop!
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We can tune in house locally. We have a car scheduled for July 11. Will take a baseline of that car and dyno again after. That will be a stage 1 on stock downpipes.

We have a dynapack dyno and some AWD cars are a problem but we have ran AWD drive cars with no issues before.
Forgive me. Where did you come up with the 600hp 620tq figures if you havent dyno'd an M550i xDrive yet? If I missed something someone go ahead and bash me, So just trying to figure out where you got your final tune# from if it wasnt Dyno'd? If it was Dyno tuned I am sure there would be a paper trail, no? How was it tested? Is it an OTS tune from another company?
if our engine actually puts out say 495hp(not 465), does that raise your 600HP tune up by 30 to 630 hp or reduce your tune by 30hp still at 600hp?? Just trying to figure out where these numbers were originated from, is it theoretical numbers your advertising or actual results? if you have results are there dyno sheets, I mean how could you claim anything without dyno tests?

I am not just busing balls here. This just seems strange to me how #'s can be just claimed.
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Forgive me. Where did you come up with the 600hp 620tq figures if you havent dyno'd an M550i xDrive yet? If I missed something someone go ahead and bash me, So just trying to figure out where you got your final tune# from if it wasnt Dyno'd? If it was Dyno tuned I am sure there would be a paper trail, no? How was it tested? Is it an OTS tune from another company?
if our engine actually puts out say 495hp(not 465), does that raise your 600HP tune up by 30 to 630 hp or reduce your tune by 30hp still at 600hp?? Just trying to figure out where these numbers were originated from, is it theoretical numbers your advertising or actual results? if you have results are there dyno sheets, I mean how could you claim anything without dyno tests?

I am not just busing balls here. This just seems strange to me how #'s can be just claimed.
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We are a DISTRIBUTOR for the tune not the manufacturer or tuner

The numbers are made on the dyno by DME Tuning the manufacturer and tuner.

I hope that answers your question
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We are a DISTRIBUTOR for the tune not the manufacturer or tuner

The numbers are made on the dyno by DME Tuning the manufacturer and tuner.

I hope that answers your question
OP sorry about that, i deserved to be bashed, I obviously did not read and assumed and looking back yep I see its DME tuned, sorry for giving you such a hard time for just doing your job of promoting items you sell. I am a tad embarrassed. Sorry again
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OP sorry about that, i deserved to be bashed, I obviously did not read and assumed and looking back yep I see its DME tuned, sorry for giving you such a hard time for just doing your job of promoting items you sell. I am a tad embarrassed. Sorry again
No worries. I understand it is important for the consumer to get as much info as they can. That is why I did not end up tuning the car on Thursday when we had it here. I am going to get a baseline, then flash the car and immediately dyno again. I promise we will have numbers from our own dyno soon!
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Checking in on the dyno pulls if you had chance to do them? Would be great to see stock and tuned!!
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Checking in on the dyno pulls if you had chance to do them? Would be great to see stock and tuned!!

The car is here but we have had a car on the dyno for 3 days now and its not ready to take off

I honestly don't think the car would have ran on our dynapack anyways because of the AWD. Had an issue with an F85 X5M last week when we tuned with DME.

We are installing a Remus midpipe + loading the tune after.
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Checking in on the dyno pulls if you had chance to do them? Would be great to see stock and tuned!!

The car is here but we have had a car on the dyno for 3 days now and its not ready to take off

I honestly don't think the car would have ran on our dynapack anyways because of the AWD. Had an issue with an F85 X5M last week when we tuned with DME.

We are installing a Remus midpipe + loading the tune after.
May be stupid question, but does DME have baseline and tuned dyno figures? Or they assuming given gains over what BMW says engines produce?
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Checking in on the dyno pulls if you had chance to do them? Would be great to see stock and tuned!!

The car is here but we have had a car on the dyno for 3 days now and its not ready to take off

I honestly don't think the car would have ran on our dynapack anyways because of the AWD. Had an issue with an F85 X5M last week when we tuned with DME.

We are installing a Remus midpipe + loading the tune after.
May be stupid question, but does DME have baseline and tuned dyno figures? Or they assuming given gains over what BMW says engines produce?
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Just asked and will let you guys know when I hear back.
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Just asked and will let you guys know when I hear back.
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340whp? That's over 100 less than Dinan came up with stock, no?
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340whp? That's over 100 less than Dinan came up with stock, no?
Dinan along with everyone else.

Something def up with that dyno lol
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What's up with the untra low base line? Isn't the tuned number close to what people are posting stock plus or minus a few HP?
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What's up with the untra low base line? Isn't the tuned number close to what people are posting stock plus or minus a few HP?
i think the key is looking at the delta here i guess?
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What's up with the untra low base line? Isn't the tuned number close to what people are posting stock plus or minus a few HP?
They were saying about the dyno used but AWD loss.

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i think the key is looking at the delta here i guess?
That would be correct
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