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      01-14-2020, 08:52 PM   #1
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Wheel Rotation Not Recommended?

Just visited the dealership and had my tires aligned for $300. My new tires just hit 5K and I asked them to be rotated but my advisor said it's not a recommended maintenance. For me to claim manufacturers warranty, it needs to be rotated every 5-7K miles. Not sure why it's not recommended by dealership. Should I have it done somewhere else? Or just leave it? Thank you in advance guys!

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Tire size: 245/40R19 P7 run flats on all 4
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      01-14-2020, 09:07 PM   #2
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Just visited the dealership and had my tires aligned for $300. My new tires just hit 5K and I asked them to be rotated but my advisor said it's not a recommended maintenance. For me to claim manufacturers warranty, it needs to be rotated every 5-7K miles. Not sure why it's not recommended by dealership. Should I have it done somewhere else? Or just leave it? Thank you in advance guys!

Year: 2017
Model: 530iX
Tire size: 245/40R19 P7 run flats on all 4
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Just visited the dealership and had my tires aligned for $300. My new tires just hit 5K and I asked them to be rotated but my advisor said it's not a recommended maintenance. For me to claim manufacturers warranty, it needs to be rotated every 5-7K miles. Not sure why it's not recommended by dealership. Should I have it done somewhere else? Or just leave it? Thank you in advance guys!

Year: 2017
Model: 530iX
Tire size: 245/40R19 P7 run flats on all 4
I have mine rotated every 7000. I go to firestone, $10 with coupon.

Everytime i go in for service they tell me i need an alignment. I have 30,000 miles on car, I refuse alignment every time. My local mechanic said no need for alignment unless car is really pulling
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      01-14-2020, 09:08 PM   #3
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Just visited the dealership and had my tires aligned for $300. My new tires just hit 5K and I asked them to be rotated but my advisor said it's not a recommended maintenance. For me to claim manufacturers warranty, it needs to be rotated every 5-7K miles. Not sure why it's not recommended by dealership. Should I have it done somewhere else? Or just leave it? Thank you in advance guys!

Year: 2017
Model: 530iX
Tire size: 245/40R19 P7 run flats on all 4
I just looked this up today for my 2019 530e with same wheel/tire size as you.
On pg.317 of my manual it states:
Rotating wheels between axles
Different wear patterns can occur on the front
and rear axles depending on individual driving
conditions. The tires can be rotated in pairs between
the axles to achieve even wear. Further information
is available from a dealerís service center
or another qualified service center or repair
shop. After rotating, check the tire pressure and
correct, if needed.
Rotating the tires is not permissible on vehicles
with different tire sizes or rim sizes on the front
and rear axles.

The reason I looked this up is because my 530e should get its tires rotated now, however I remember my 2012 X5 manual clearly stating that BMW doesn't recommend tire rotation for this vehicle.
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      01-14-2020, 09:12 PM   #4
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Just visited the dealership and had my tires aligned for $300. My new tires just hit 5K and I asked them to be rotated but my advisor said it's not a recommended maintenance. For me to claim manufacturers warranty, it needs to be rotated every 5-7K miles. Not sure why it's not recommended by dealership. Should I have it done somewhere else? Or just leave it? Thank you in advance guys!

Year: 2017
Model: 530iX
Tire size: 245/40R19 P7 run flats on all 4
I just looked this up today for my 2019 530e with same wheel/tire size as you.
On pg.317 of my manual it states:
Rotating wheels between axles
Different wear patterns can occur on the front
and rear axles depending on individual driving
conditions. The tires can be rotated in pairs between
the axles to achieve even wear. Further information
is available from a dealer's service center
or another qualified service center or repair
shop. After rotating, check the tire pressure and
correct, if needed.
Rotating the tires is not permissible on vehicles
with different tire sizes or rim sizes on the front
and rear axles.

The reason I looked this up is because my 530e should get its tires rotated now, however I remember my 2012 X5 manual clearly stating that BMW doesn't recommend tire rotation for this vehicle.
Thank you GKC, this brings much clarity. I'm not really familiar with tires. Since I just had my wheels aligned, would a tire rotation not done by dealer affect anything? Thanks again!
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Just visited the dealership and had my tires aligned for $300. My new tires just hit 5K and I asked them to be rotated but my advisor said it's not a recommended maintenance. For me to claim manufacturers warranty, it needs to be rotated every 5-7K miles. Not sure why it's not recommended by dealership. Should I have it done somewhere else? Or just leave it? Thank you in advance guys!

Year: 2017
Model: 530iX
Tire size: 245/40R19 P7 run flats on all 4
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Originally Posted by lexlopez View Post
Just visited the dealership and had my tires aligned for $300. My new tires just hit 5K and I asked them to be rotated but my advisor said it's not a recommended maintenance. For me to claim manufacturers warranty, it needs to be rotated every 5-7K miles. Not sure why it's not recommended by dealership. Should I have it done somewhere else? Or just leave it? Thank you in advance guys!

Year: 2017
Model: 530iX
Tire size: 245/40R19 P7 run flats on all 4
I have mine rotated every 7000. I go to firestone, $10 with coupon.

Everytime i go in for service they tell me i need an alignment. I have 30,000 miles on car, I refuse alignment every time. My local mechanic said no need for alignment unless car is really pulling
Thank you! Will definitely check this out! When I drove my car after alignment, felt a slight significant change in smoothness of the ride. Mileage is less than 23K so never really had alignment issues. Just had it done since I got new tires and the tire place can't do my alignment so I went straight to dealership lol
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BMW has always (well, mostly) recommended against rotating tires, as it changes handling dynamics, admittedly at the expense of tire wear.

Most of my cars end up with staggered wheel sizes, but even the ones with square setups (like the current G30) I never rotate.

When the tires start to show wear, I replace them. Never cut corners when it comes to tires.
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Every BMW I've owned, the owners manual "recommended" not to rotate the tires. But it also gave "requirements" for if you do rotate the tires.

My suggestion is to pay attention to what is recommended and what is required. If you chose to follow the recommendation (don't rotate)...no problem. But if you choose to rotate...then I would highly suggest following the "requirements" that are given...especially the relatively short interval between tire rotations.
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Thank you QSilver. That being said, I'll just leave my tires be and not rotate unless advised but dealership in the future.
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My recent experience has been that rotating tires can present with problems as described: excessive noise which improved when the tires were put back. Tire wear didn't seem to improve either or much. I am currently not rotating but put on a lot of miles and seem to be getting extra noise anyway.
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I thought I was doing a good thing, but I ruined the tires on my 3 series by rotating. The car was extremely unstable on the freeway -- especially in the rain, the wind, and tire ruts. It didn't even feel safe.

I had the car aligned multiple times, which never helped. Ultimately got new tires -- which fixed the issue. Now I don't rotate.

Part of the problem is also that the runflat sidewalls are super stiff -- which I think makes the tires very sensitive to directional changes and wear patterns.

So, my advice is to not rotate.
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I thought I was doing a good thing, but I ruined the tires on my 3 series by rotating. The car was extremely unstable on the freeway -- especially in the rain, the wind, and tire ruts. It didn't even feel safe.

I had the car aligned multiple times, which never helped. Ultimately got new tires -- which fixed the issue. Now I don't rotate.

Part of the problem is also that the runflat sidewalls are super stiff -- which I think makes the tires very sensitive to directional changes and wear patterns.

So, my advice is to not rotate.
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I thought I was doing a good thing, but I ruined the tires on my 3 series by rotating. The car was extremely unstable on the freeway -- especially in the rain, the wind, and tire ruts. It didn't even feel safe.

I had the car aligned multiple times, which never helped. Ultimately got new tires -- which fixed the issue. Now I don't rotate.

Part of the problem is also that the runflat sidewalls are super stiff -- which I think makes the tires very sensitive to directional changes and wear patterns.

So, my advice is to not rotate.
I rotate every 8000 miles, i have non rft. I will get 40,000 miles out of my tires because of rotation. Front outer corners wear most, rotating slows this down.
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I thought I was doing a good thing, but I ruined the tires on my 3 series by rotating. The car was extremely unstable on the freeway -- especially in the rain, the wind, and tire ruts. It didn't even feel safe.

I had the car aligned multiple times, which never helped. Ultimately got new tires -- which fixed the issue. Now I don't rotate.

Part of the problem is also that the runflat sidewalls are super stiff -- which I think makes the tires very sensitive to directional changes and wear patterns.

So, my advice is to not rotate.
I agree, but have had success over-inflating my OEM Continental RFT's by 2-4 psi where the sidewall perhaps doesn't make it stiff, as the center of the tire is more active. The extra air makes it seem softer with less "cupping" type noise. Tires: 245/45/18, F: 37 psi, R: 41 psi. The steering gets better too with more "on-center" feel and stability.
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I thought I was doing a good thing, but I ruined the tires on my 3 series by rotating. The car was extremely unstable on the freeway -- especially in the rain, the wind, and tire ruts. It didn't even feel safe.

I had the car aligned multiple times, which never helped. Ultimately got new tires -- which fixed the issue. Now I don't rotate.

Part of the problem is also that the runflat sidewalls are super stiff -- which I think makes the tires very sensitive to directional changes and wear patterns.

So, my advice is to not rotate.
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I thought I was doing a good thing, but I ruined the tires on my 3 series by rotating. The car was extremely unstable on the freeway -- especially in the rain, the wind, and tire ruts. It didn't even feel safe.

I had the car aligned multiple times, which never helped. Ultimately got new tires -- which fixed the issue. Now I don't rotate.

Part of the problem is also that the runflat sidewalls are super stiff -- which I think makes the tires very sensitive to directional changes and wear patterns.

So, my advice is to not rotate.
I rotate every 8000 miles, i have non rft. I will get 40,000 miles out of my tires because of rotation. Front outer corners wear most, rotating slows this down.
Agreed, I try to rotate every 5,000 miles or so to have even wear and extend tire life. I've never had an issue rotating front to back and vice versa.
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I rotate my tires (RFT) every 5000 miles - have been doing this for at least four BMWs now, and I have yet to have any issues as far as I know...
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I rotate my tires (RFT) every 5000 miles - have been doing this for at least four BMWs now, and I have yet to have any issues as far as I know...
Never rotate it for certain BMWs.

These are laser aligned with that particular tire characteristic. If the alignment is good then the wear will be even.
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