02-07-2021, 10:09 AM | #1 |
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Have had a few BMWs and never has so much body shake from revving at neutral. Been there since I purchase the car a few weeks ago. 2017 530e 35k miles.
Are the mounts very soft on the g30? Or do I have a problem. Seller tells me it's the same on all his cars and he has felt this before but I haven't had a chance to visit to check due COVID. Sitting in the car and revving the car shakes very noticeably right to left and with bonnet open engine is visibly moving a lot. Car has 35K miles on it and 6 month warranty. On our diesel X1 no movement at all and can't remember noticing this on my 320d e92 either. Only purchased car and have been feeling a small wobble/vibration when driving and accelerating or foot off accelerator and over uneven surfaces on a bend. Car feels unbalanced like weight is shifting. Had brake discs and pads just changed to solve a different braking shake that is now sorted so not brake related Also just had alloyed refurbed(no buckles) and balanced including BMW alignment all trying to fix this issue. BMW also inspected all of the suspension no problems noted. Didn't have them look at the mounts and only noticed the shaking when revving yesterday as the car always runs in electric mode when parked unless you force it into engine on. Any ideas I thought engine or transmission mount worn but dealer tells me that is normal? Or something else. Anyone got a video of their engine movement when parked and revving on a 530e? |
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You're asking for a video, but perhaps you can share a video of what you're experiencing?
I don't have any serious shaking in my 530e when the ICE engine is on. I don't put it in neutral except the few times I go through a car wash. I'm not accelerating at that point though. I have had to engine kick on the one or two times I forgot to put the car in D and it kicks ICE on to let you know the car is on just not ready to go yet. No outlandish shaking in that scenario either. It sounds like worn motor mounts, but share a video of what you're experiencing inside and outside the cabin and perhaps we can comment more accurately. |
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Thank you logical.,, it's hard for me to video the shaking, I will try to do it tomorrow by placing a glass of water on the dash.
Issue is the car and camera move together when inside but it's a very noticeable shake and could explain my weird weight movement/shifting/shake feeling when driving sometimes and asking for power/coming off the power. Also happens when cornering over rough road. Feels like the engine and transmission including the heavy electric motor is moving which throw off balance. Never felt this in my previous BMWs it's has me not trusting the car. Wife X1 engine and body doesn't budge when revving. I will also video the engine movement by having the wife record while I rev the engine (other way around could be dangerous) QUOTE=LogicalApex;27207695]You're asking for a video, but perhaps you can share a video of what you're experiencing? I don't have any serious shaking in my 530e when the ICE engine is on. I don't put it in neutral except the few times I go through a car wash. I'm not accelerating at that point though. I have had to engine kick on the one or two times I forgot to put the car in D and it kicks ICE on to let you know the car is on just not ready to go yet. No outlandish shaking in that scenario either. It sounds like worn motor mounts, but share a video of what you're experiencing inside and outside the cabin and perhaps we can comment more accurately.[/QUOTE] |
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I had to take a short drive in my car after your post. I put the car in neutral and pressed the gas. It fired up the engine and did a really small shake. Same as turning on any gas car. Nothing serious at all and barely noticeable. It also didn’t shake while on. Was very smooth overall.
It was below freezing out so I didn’t look under the hood to see how it was. |
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Thank you freezing here also so no chance to make a video but will get it done tomorrow hopefully.
Seems it may be normal for the body to shake a little from your other posts here but maybe I have a worse case of it as I can feel it when driving and seems to upset the car as engine kicks on or off. QUOTE=LogicalApex;27208808]I had to take a short drive in my car after your post. I put the car in neutral and pressed the gas. It fired up the engine and did a really small shake. Same as turning on any gas car. Nothing serious at all and barely noticeable. It also didn't shake while on. Was very smooth overall. It was below freezing out so I didn't look under the hood to see how it was.[/QUOTE] |
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Yeah some minor shake is normal. But it would be equal to if you had just turned a gas car on so very minor and not jarring. It is most noticeable at a dead stop and less noticeable when moving. If you're at highway speeds it can be imperceptible unless you're really hunting for it. The fact you're saying its very violent and shaky seems extremely usual to me and I'd have BMW correct it if you're still under warranty. |
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02-08-2021, 07:17 PM | #7 |
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It's not so much violent and shaky it's subtle when cornering or coming out of a roundabout the movement puts me off and car feels unstable even though it's prob not and it's not what I'm used to on any BMW but never had a PHEV before.
Also car has a random small rear end wobble now and again which may be the motor torque causing the whole engine and transmission to move slightly. I could just be feeling everything due the larger alloys but it doesn't seem right to me. Off to get a road force balance tomorrow to be 100% sure it's not wheel related but doubt it as everything has checked out to date and alloys are just refurbished. Maybe it's a bad tyre but that wouldnt account for the random nature of the movements. QUOTE=LogicalApex;27208808]I had to take a short drive in my car after your post. I put the car in neutral and pressed the gas. It fired up the engine and did a really small shake. Same as turning on any gas car. Nothing serious at all and barely noticeable. It also didn't shake while on. Was very smooth overall. It was below freezing out so I didn't look under the hood to see how it was.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE] Yeah some minor shake is normal. But it would be equal to if you had just turned a gas car on so very minor and not jarring. It is most noticeable at a dead stop and less noticeable when moving. If you're at highway speeds it can be imperceptible unless you're really hunting for it. The fact you're saying its very violent and shaky seems extremely usual to me and I'd have BMW correct it if you're still under warranty.[/QUOTE] |
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02-08-2021, 07:23 PM | #8 |
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To add my car moves a lot when revving in neutral.
It's unlike anything I have felt in a modern car unless we go back many years to huge engines with soft bushings v8 style. It's like seeing a big block car revving at the lights and moving side to side that's what I'm experiencing. |
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Additionally, the PHEV drive motor replaces the torque converter so shouldn't create any possibility for a shake contribution... I have taken my car in excess of 100MPH and it is buttery smooth the whole time... Your car sounds like you'd be scared taking it at 65MPH due to uncontrollable shakes... |
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The OP car's behavior does seem abnormal. |
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Hi All,
I finally got some videos made and uploaded can you tell me what you think? Clicking noise in the video is the throttle pedal not the engine or mounts. Interior Engine Solved the random shimmying rear today with a proper alignment (BMW tried 3 days ago and didnt fix it but indy did a proper job). All thats left is the engine shaking which gives a wobble when it kicks in during driving or when i ask for power/come off power on a bend etc, also this shaking when parked if revved. Is this normal? my gut says no. |
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Seems it on all the 530e vehicles on his lot so maybe it's just the way the car is designed. |
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As I'm having shake when driving maybe my vacuum system isn't working properly as seems my mounts are the same soft setting when driving as when in neutral. |
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02-10-2021, 09:08 AM | #15 |
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Any chance anyone gets a small shake when the engine kicks in while driving especially around a left turning corner when the body is already leaning right?
I ask as I get a shake/wobble and I'm wondering if maybe my engine mount vacuum isn't working so the mounts are staying soft all the time and the wobble when driving is because of this. More noticeable on left turns as the engine kicks right when it starts as noted when I checked in neutral and its the same direction as the existing lean when turning left. It's has me not trusting the car as it upsets the geometry when cornering even at normal speeds. |
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Also does it make a difference if the engine is cold or warm? |
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02-10-2021, 02:27 PM | #17 |
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Doesn't matter if it's cold or warm the small wobble/ shake happens always taking a left turn and asking for power on exit. Must be the engine and transmission shaking when it starts.
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I had the two Hankook Ventus S1 EVO3 non RFT tyres installed today on the rear and waiting on front tyres next week. The ride is massively improved no more crashy ride over smooth but uneven surfaces and way quieter...Those Bridgestone RE50s were junk. Will be even better with the front ones done. Now if I can figure out the slight wobble I feel sometimes when accelerating especially around corners and coming off acceleration I will be keeping the car. It's minor but something is slightly off have rear stab arms and a Guibo to install next hopefully that sorts it once and for all. |
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Anyone experience anything like that? As though the variable shocks are adjusting constantly and happens only when the car is parked across an incline leaning right side lower. Madness. |
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Still have a shake/wobble when accelerating/taking foot off accelerator but can't ID where it's coming from (seems everywhere) and when I change from forward to reverse when parked there is a small shake/knock. (Strange considering doesn't matter if the car is in electric mode or with engine on when it happens makes no difference) I'm thinking maybe CSB and or GUIBO. But car only had 50k km. have replacements on my desk just haven't got around to installing. Anyone have any advice? Are Guibo failures normal this early? I'm thinking the 530e puts a lot of stress on it due regenerative braking. |
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It's official the car wobbles at idle.(not talking about engine vibrations which is normal)
The car actually wobbles slightly side to side randomly when parked and the engine is running. Checked two other BMWs and they don't do this. Could explain my feelings of instability when driving as it's probably more exaggerated when moving. Anyone have any idea why it's doing this? Feels like the car has gone over a small bump when driving but parked and in idle. Have variable dampers installed. Feels like the entire engine and transmission is shaking right to left and this is the feeling I have had all along regards the shake and instability when driving. |
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