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Dealership Quotes $30,000 to Replace Battery in a $10,000 Chevrolet Volt | It’s a huge sum to pay for a new battery in an old hybrid, but cheaper alternatives may exist. https://www.thedrive.com/news/dealer...chevrolet-volt
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The point here is - despite claims that costs are going down, these vehicles are showing higher repairs costs, and per your links posted previously, that will get worse when the battery is integrated in the chassis, leading to a ‘throw away’ car if a battery cell fails. There is literally no benefit to the consumer in any of this. |
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I’m going to be ‘left behind’ if I’m not forced into adopting something that’s clearly flawed and a bad deal for consumers? So be it.
It blows my mind how much people will do and believe to follow the crowd. |
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But the article you posted didn't really list weight savings as a benefit, instead the savings were from packaging with less "wasted" space so more batteries could be fit for the same volume. The LPF batter in the article was a less dense battery chemistry than what is currently used - so there really wouldn't be a 'weight savings" in the sense your thinking.
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No thats not how it works, you claim an intervention works the burden of proof is on you. You posted the lowest form of evidence based on models which is essentially speculation. Thats before even considering the source. Imagine a medical company pulling the shit youre claiming, they have this magical essential oil that you rub on and 20 years from now youll get all your wishes come true here is a scientific study thats based on a model from the Essential Petroleum Agency. .... smh credulous simpleton.
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Anyhow, you being in tech has nothing to do with what we are actually speaking about here. The ‘tech’ is not there, and it’s being pushed as part of the government (read: not consumers) agenda. People will be forced to do this, despite all the logistics issues I presented before you still not being solved. This is going to be a net negative for anyone who can’t afford a brand new car every 3-5 years and do nothing to curb ‘emissions’ especially when cars aren’t even the major contributor. |
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It’s not good enough for shipping, planes and trucking so no, it’s not that good.
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Simple minded? You're the one conflating a market for a product meaning its good for the environment. Another added factor is its subsidized by the government with tax credits (Tesla was but not anymore). There is a huge market for them sure, who loves filling up their car. Again this move the pollution away from the user and makes them feel better. With rising gas prices (again caused by the government) it sure makes the market for them look nice. The power grid cant support everyone charging their cars (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/01/u...charging.html) its nice to switch your gas bill to your electric bill. Kinda like switching to using debit cards, makes it easier to spend. Shit there def some people who may benefit from EVs but planet savers and better than ICE environmentally has yet to be demonstrated independently yet. The propganda has been pretty good thats def helped the market, I mean you believe it so deeply with little evidence.
This is clearly going no where you have made up your mind. You've stated your position and I've stated mine, im open to evidence but it has to be more than speculation. Have a good one, safe driving. |
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Is it possible to discuss the performance benefits of EVs without things devolving into politics and name calling? Good grief. Call me crazy but a quad motor 800hp+ burnout machine isn’t about being green
Don’t care about the minerals, recycling, or infrastructure. Really don’t care about what someone in an apartment will do. What’s more interesting here is the guy in the interview saying this new platform will allow them do things they haven’t before, and that driving dynamics / handling will not suffer. Anybody actually read the article in the OP? Quote:
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People are complaining because despite all the hype, the product comes with a lot of compromises. If you want to read marketing material, no one is stopping you, if you want to discuss the benefits, no one is stopping you. Why do we have to have a conversation revolving around what you care about only? Just ignore it if you don’t want to read it. |
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