[Mattl0806]

Hey Everyone,

Looking for some real world feedback on DHP in the 540. I know it removes the sport suspension and rides slightly higher.

Who's got it and is it worth it?

Does anyone have it and wish they didn't?

Most of the prior threads are pretty dated on this topic.

Thanks!

[claykin]

The 704 passive sport suspension is good, but can be a harder ride especially with 20" mixed runflats. DHP addresses the harshness of the passive suspension while adding a measurable amount of roll control while cornering. It's a very good option if handling is key to you. You won't regret it.

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by claykin

The 704 passive sport suspension is good, but can be a harder ride especially with 20" mixed runflats. DHP addresses the harshness of the passive suspension while adding a measurable amount of roll control while cornering. It's a very good option if handling is key to you. You won't regret it.

Thanks. I'd prob stick the 19s and get all season tires which I think makes them all the same size.
Regardless, if there are no adverse effects, i will throw it on there for sure.

[claykin]

Adverse? No. Only possible downfall is post warranty issues that may crop up and likely a more expensive alignment if you need one.

[Gautam]

Dhp on the 540 and below is not the same as on the m550 where it also includes rear-axle steering.

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by Gautam

Dhp on the 540 and below is not the same as on the m550 where it also includes rear-axle steering.

Yes, I did read that. Is it not a significant upgrade then? It seems to improve overall ride quality handling still?

[Greywall]

Looks like you're settling on the 540i. I'm guessing it's easier to find 540's around for test drive, it was when I was shopping around. I'd go check them out in person, rather than trying to figure it all out on paper. Your butt dyno will surely be a better judge.

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by Greywall

Looks like you're settling on the 540i. I'm guessing it's easier to find 540's around for test drive, it was when I was shopping around. I'd go check them out in person, rather than trying to figure it all out on paper. Your butt dyno will surely be a better judge.

Thanks. I'm putting in an order today.

Dark graphite
Msport
Black Nappa Leather with contrast stitching
Fine Wood open-pored Ash Grain Trim with Pearl Chrome Accent
—
Options

Driving Assistance Professional Package
Executive Package
Luxury Seating Package
Shadowline Package
Front and Rear Heated Seats
Front massaging seats
Heated Steering Wheel
SensaTec Dashboard
Wireless Charging

End of the day - I could pay for the msport just to have that suspension not actually used and the car ride higher than the m sport was designed too. Seemed a bit funky and bmw didn't really think this one thru

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by Mattl0806

Thanks. I'm putting in an order today.

Dark graphite
Msport
Black Nappa Leather with contrast stitching
Fine Wood open-pored Ash Grain Trim with Pearl Chrome Accent
—
Options

Driving Assistance Professional Package
Executive Package
Luxury Seating Package
Shadowline Package
Front and Rear Heated Seats
Front massaging seats
Heated Steering Wheel
SensaTec Dashboard
Wireless Charging

End of the day - I could pay for the msport just to have that suspension not actually used and the car ride higher than the m sport was designed too. Seemed a bit funky and bmw didn't really think this one thru

Love the order and I think you'll really like the Dark Graphite. Well done!

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by NGT2

Love the order and I think you'll really like the Dark Graphite. Well done!

Thanks. As I mentioned on the other thread actually adding the dhp back in. Can't wait

[G30 B58]

Skip the DHP and replace the runflats w/ some go flat all seasons.

I do love to see people check most if not all of the boxes on a custom built car.

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by G30 B58

Skip the DHP and replace the runflats w/ some go flat all seasons.

I do love to see people check most if not all of the boxes on a custom built car.

Any particular reason you say skip the DHP?

Until today, I was quite uninformed, I didn't know the m sport suspension doesn't actual change stiffness with the different modes. So I liked the fact DHP can be soft and firm btw settings. Also, it does appear people say DHP still handles better with the sway bars and active suspension?

[DNYC1919]

I never test drove the LCI 540 m sport on 19s before leasing it. And you probably won't get one person complaining about the suspension. On 19s you feel like your in a luxury comfy car. No bumps or jarring at all. Test it and you'll see. On 20s may be a different story.

I know the 550 adjust suspension slightly with driving mode changes, but does it really adjust the suspension enough to make it super cloud comfy.? I would doubt that also.

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by DNYC1919

I never test drove the LCI 540 m sport on 19s before leasing it. And you probably won't get one person complaining about the suspension. On 19s you feel like your in a luxury comfy car. No bumps or jarring at all. Test it and you'll see. On 20s may be a different story.

I know the 550 adjust suspension slightly with driving mode changes, but does it really adjust the suspension enough to make it super cloud comfy.? I would doubt that also.

I agree with you. The only car I got to drive was a 540 m sport with the 704 on the default 19s, and found it very comfortable. I guess I should not pay 3500 for something that might make little to no difference if I'm already happy... granted I didn't hit a pothole going 75mph but I don't know many cars that handle that well..

What's really bugging me is the change in ride height. I really really don't like large gaps in wheel wells, especially when they look out of place. It's one of the least sporty looks a car could have IMO.

Ugh - am I'm really gonna change this build code one more time?!?!

[DNYC1919]

Originally Posted by Mattl0806

I agree with you. The only car I got to drive was a 540 m sport with the 704 on the default 19s, and found it very comfortable. I guess I should not pay 3500 for something that might make little to no difference if I'm already happy... granted I didn't hit a pothole going 75mph but I don't know many cars that handle that well..

What's really bugging me is the change in ride height. I really really don't like large gaps in wheel wells, especially when they look out of place. It's one of the least sporty looks a car could have IMO.

Ugh - am I'm really gonna change this build code one more time?!?!

I would probably be the same way as you, so I understand. I say try to test both, and if not go with your gut. You probably can't go wrong either way.

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by DNYC1919

I would probably be the same way as you, so I understand. I say try to test both, and if not go with your gut. You probably can't go wrong either way.

I appreciate the thoughts and experience. Even when I thought I was decided, one last little push swings me the other direction. Ya never know when a comment will do that for someone.

[BMW012]

what is your main goal for dhp? is it to get it more comfortable than the m sport you drove or is it to get it stiffer?

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by BMW012

what is your main goal for dhp? is it to get it more comfortable than the m sport you drove or is it to get it stiffer?

I drove the m sport for a short period of time. It seemed more than adequate but I didn't really push it that hard nor did I hit any really bad roads.

My intention was to get the "best" suspension setup. Initially, I felt the DHP was a plain and simple upgrade over the 704, which is no longer clear to me at all. It comes with suspension and cosmetic changes. This is also far more subjective than I originally thought as well.

I would appreciate the value in having the flexibility of different softness settings, but end of the day not sure id really use it and if it comes at the cost of higher ride height and potentially more floaty such, I think the 704 is the safer bet.

[Mattl0806]

Goal for a suspension would be sporty yet comfortable - but don't sacrifice ride height. Love the msport looks, part of that is the lower ride

If the dhp didn't raise the height I'd give it a shot. But if i can't say Wow, this is freaking worlds better, I'll just be annoyed the car looks worse lol

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by Mattl0806

Goal for a suspension would be sporty yet comfortable - but don't sacrifice ride height. Love the msport looks, part of that is the lower ride

If the dhp didn't raise the height I'd give it a shot. But if i can't say Wow, this is freaking worlds better, I'll just be annoyed the car looks worse lol

Okay two things… well, three….

1 - Sporty but comfortable with a lower profile is the stock M Sport suspension. Seems like a no brainer. Especially if you're getting 19" wheels.

2 - I have neither suspension, as I have a Luxury Line pre-LCI 540. What I can comment on is the whole idea of changing the suspension mode - it's kind of overrated. What I mean is, I don't find comfort mode THAT much more comfortable than sport mode. You won't know the difference and also you aren't missing much. It's not like it goes from 7 series ride to M340 ride with the touch of a button. It's just a subtle adjustment. And I am in a place with bad roads, so I feel I'd be able to tell a huge difference if it were there. I can't speak to the enhancement in comfort of the DHP, so I won't speculate. But if not being able to change suspension mode from sport to comfort, like you would in a luxury line model, is your concern then my experience is that you're overthinking a subtle adjustment.

3 - We are all flattered at the credit you give to the comments, but remember it's your car and you should just do what you want. If you want a sporty ride with a low profile that's still comfy enough, 540 M Sport suspension sounds like it checks the boxes! You will drive yourself nuts reading these comments all day. I did. It took me about 9 months to finally settle down and realize that the little "if I'd know X, Y, or Z then I'd have done this or that" thoughts are all just noise. They're great cars. You're not going to screw up. Put YOUR priority list in front of you and then check the boxes that hit closest to those priorities. There will always be someone that would do it different and that's okay.

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by NGT2

Okay two things… well, three….

1 - Sporty but comfortable with a lower profile is the stock M Sport suspension. Seems like a no brainer. Especially if you're getting 19" wheels.

2 - I have neither suspension, as I have a Luxury Line pre-LCI 540. What I can comment on is the whole idea of changing the suspension mode - it's kind of overrated. What I mean is, I don't find comfort mode THAT much more comfortable than sport mode. You won't know the difference and also you aren't missing much. It's not like it goes from 7 series ride to M340 ride with the touch of a button. It's just a subtle adjustment. And I am in a place with bad roads, so I feel I'd be able to tell a huge difference if it were there. I can't speak to the enhancement in comfort of the DHP, so I won't speculate. But if not being able to change suspension mode from sport to comfort, like you would in a luxury line model, is your concern then my experience is that you're overthinking a subtle adjustment.

3 - We are all flattered at the credit you give to the comments, but remember it's your car and you should just do what you want. If you want a sporty ride with a low profile that's still comfy enough, 540 M Sport suspension sounds like it checks the boxes! You will drive yourself nuts reading these comments all day. I did. It took me about 9 months to finally settle down and realize that the little "if I'd know X, Y, or Z then I'd have done this or that" thoughts are all just noise. They're great cars. You're not going to screw up. Put YOUR priority list in front of you and then check the boxes that hit closest to those priorities. There will always be someone that would do it different and that's okay.

Said so well that I've got nothing to say back besides thank you!!

[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by NGT2

- I have neither suspension, as I have a Luxury Line pre-LCI 540. What I can comment on is the whole idea of changing the suspension mode - it's kind of overrated. What I mean is, I don't find comfort mode THAT much more comfortable than sport mode. You won't know the difference and also you aren't missing much. It's not like it goes from 7 series ride to M340 ride with the touch of a button. It's just a subtle adjustment. And I am in a place with bad roads, so I feel I'd be able to tell a huge difference if it were there. I can't speak to the enhancement in comfort of the DHP, so I won't speculate. But if not being able to change suspension mode from sport to comfort, like you would in a luxury line model, is your concern then my experience is that you're overthinking a subtle adjustment.

Have you got VDC fitted to your Luxury line? If not, there won't be any difference in Comfort or Sport mode.

I've Adaptive Drive (DHP) on my F11 M-sport wagon, it is so different to any standard or M-sport suspension.

DHP is not just about variable comfort, (although that gives options for road condition and how I want to drive). It is the ability to corner much flatter than any comfort biased passive suspension can give you. I see the Dynamic Drive part (ARS), the 'star' option of running my wagon.