07-22-2018, 08:51 AM | #1 | |
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M2 vs 991.2 GT3 PDK (from a dig)
So I was on my way home from my bday dinner in "Mexico" with a lady friend last night when I spot a brand new 991.2 GT3 (silver with light silver wheels on temporary tags) at a light opposite from me, we were both pulling onto a big 4 lane, I get on the 4 lane 1st and see him about 1/8th mile back coming up fast then pulls up next to me at a light, he looks over, says "nice car! next three lights?" He was a younger fellow with a younger woman. You could tell he was ready to show her what his new toy could do to this boy racer blue bmw. I just smiled and looked ahead. I've never launched my car from dig, and wasn't expecting a 991.2 gt3 owner wanting to race from a dig
A few seconds later the light turns green, I get a good launch and hear his motor screaming next to me (sounded insane) but I don't see him. I think he was trying to put it in launch control as the light turned green He never made it past my rear quarter panel. The next light he gets a better launch and now I'm right at his rear quarter until his short shifts into 3rd from that point I was ahead by a car or two. We pull up to the next light behind a few cars, he didn't seem very happy I ask him "PDK?" he says "yea" I say "cheater! mines a 6spd!" My car has a fabspeed downpipe and Dinan sport tuner set to "race +4psi over stock". These cars are deceptively fast in the real world. It reminded me of Clarksons review when he came across a 911 GTS and Aston martin. https://www.driving.co.uk/car-review...w-2016-bmw-m2/ Quote:
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07-22-2018, 07:39 PM | #2 |
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That GT3 must be one of the knock offs from AliExpress.
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07-22-2018, 08:39 PM | #3 |
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Then you woke up from that dream....
The car is a full second faster to sixty. You wouldn't have a chance even if the guy wasn't trying. |
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07-22-2018, 09:40 PM | #4 |
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Maybe he modded it to look like a 991.2 but it was... a carerra?
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07-23-2018, 03:06 PM | #5 |
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In perfect conditions with perfect driving. They make 339ftlb of torque at 6krpms vs a modded m2 makes over 400 at 2krpm. I've driven one myself, they're dont make much power under 6krpm...
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07-23-2018, 07:14 PM | #7 |
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Sorry Hammer. Something wasn't right. I've driven 911.1 gt3 a few times. A tuned m2 surely has more torque than gt3, but they're still not in the same class, by any stretch of imagination. The gt3 is way way waaaaay faster.
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07-23-2018, 09:26 PM | #8 | |
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And traction. And weight, when converted to acceleration rate. M2 is a nimble eager going car for sure, and your piggyback and downpipe amplify that feeling. But in a WOT state, it's weak, very weak. That GT3 need driver modification, is all.
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07-24-2018, 01:56 AM | #9 |
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I guess the takeaway is that the GT3 in the real world, despite being fast, cannot makeup for a less than competent driver!
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07-24-2018, 04:32 PM | #10 |
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Short shifts into 3rd? Screws up launch? It seems pretty obvious that this guy couldn't drive the GT3 for shit. Get a halfway competent driver and he jogs away from you, especially from a dig.
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07-25-2018, 09:28 AM | #12 |
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I mean unless he was shifting at 4K rpms, I don’t see how the m2 could remotely keep up. The gt3 is worlds apart from the m2 in virtually every measurable performance measurement. By the quarter mile you are almost 2 seconds apart. It just doesn’t make sense. A downpipe and a boost controller won’t make up that difference.
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It was obviously driver error. You also have to figure we were probably "racing" for about an 1/8th of a mile. |
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GT3 PDK C/D TEST RESULTS: Zero to 60 mph: 3.0 sec Zero to 100 mph: 6.9 sec Zero to 130 mph: 11.6 sec Zero to 150 mph: 16.3 sec Zero to 170 mph: 24.3 sec Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 3.9 sec Standing ¼-mile: 11.1 sec @ 127 mph Top speed (drag limited, mfr's claim): 197 mph Braking, 70-0 mph: 146 ft Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 1.11 g M2 6MT C/D TEST RESULTS: Zero to 60 mph: 4.2 sec Zero to 100 mph: 10.0 sec Zero to 120 mph: 14.5 sec Zero to 150 mph: 27.0 sec Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.7 sec Top gear, 30-50 mph: 5.7 sec Top gear, 50-70 mph: 4.7 sec Standing ¼-mile: 12.7 sec @ 113 mph Top speed (governor limited): 164 mph Braking, 70-0 mph: 159 ft Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.99 g |
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Thats the definition of internet racing hahaha.... I agree in perfect conditions and driving the GT3 would win. But this wasnt the case |
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07-25-2018, 05:42 PM | #21 |
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I fail to see how mostly objective numbers through instrumented testing is "Internet Racing" but to each their own. I've said my piece so we can leave it at that. Regardless, enjoy the car.
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