[ChrisK]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

The M2 is wide enough. Any more wider it becomes Aftermarket....Or a cartoon.

Good. - another rumor put to rest.

[Oxymoron]

My (Australian) dealer sent me an update yesterday. Mostly confirming what we already know but I'll share anyway.

"M3/m4 Seats standard, s55 with 302kw’s just detuned from the m3/4. Adaptive suspension and steering with individual set up, same as the m3/m4. Redesigned front end to help with cooling. And replaces the m2 completely. M2 CS to follow in Q4. Price rise for Comp. expected to be around $5000 only"

It's worth mentioning that many "standard" features on Aus. delivered cars are options in the US. And if that $5000 price bump is correct its a hell of a deal considering what you get. M2 LCI is about $100000au

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by Oxymoron

My (Australian) dealer sent me an update yesterday. Mostly confirming what we already know but I'll share anyway.

"M3/m4 Seats standard, s55 with 302kw’s just detuned from the m3/4. Adaptive suspension and steering with individual set up, same as the m3/m4. Redesigned front end to help with cooling. And replaces the m2 completely. M2 CS to follow in Q4. Price rise for Comp. expected to be around $5000 only"

It's worth mentioning that many "standard" features on Aus. delivered cars are options in the US. And if that $5000 price bump is correct its a hell of a deal considering what you get. M2 LCI is about $100000au

I was wondering about that. It would explain some of the conflicting info from overseas dealers posted on this forum.

Although, I don't believe adaptive suspension has been seen on any of the VIN numbers so far.

[hyperrift]

Do new models have a delay on European delivery or should that be available whenever the car can be ordered?

[oj34]

Originally Posted by ChrisK

Do you know when orders can be placed in the BMW system? Just after launch maybe?

My educated guess is 03/26/2018 or even 03/23/2018 for Germany. Not sure if this will also apply to the US.
If I'm guessing right you don't have to wait long ...

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by Artemis

For MY2019 (US spec): yes.

Dang - that’s going to be a short run then.

[Whaou]

Hello,

I'm back from my dealer (Belgium), he was yesterday in Munich and confirmed the following:

- M2 competition to replace M2
- Engine S55 with 410HP and 585Nm
- Sport seats available, similar to M3/M4 but without hole in it
- Price is 4-5.000€ more than a M2
- Order in June for a July production (MY2019)
- Wheel similar to M3/M4 M Competition pack, but 19'
- Sunset or Sakhir orange available + light metallic grey, but no more mineralgrau
- Choice of blue or orange seat stitching

Hope that help!

[Edtex]

Originally Posted by Whaou

Hello,

I'm back from my dealer (Belgium), he was yesterday in Munich and confirmed the following:

- M2 competition to replace M2
- Engine S55 with 410HP and 585Nm
- Sport seats available, similar to M3/M4 but without hole in it
- Price is 4-5.000€ more than a M2
- Order in June for a July production (MY2019)
- Wheel similar to M3/M4 M Competition pack, but 19'
- Sunset or Sakhir orange available + light metallic grey, but no more mineralgrau
- Choice of blue or orange seat stitching

Hope that help!

Thank you for the information. My only disappointment with the new M2 is colors. My M4 is Mineral Grey and a very nice color; sorry it is not available. Light Metallic Grey might be ok unless it is a light silver which I do not care for at all. The orange might be ok if it is not too "in your face" bright. I might even have to consider black now.

[RPM33]

Originally Posted by Oxymoron

My (Australian) dealer sent me an update yesterday. Mostly confirming what we already know but I'll share anyway.

"M3/m4 Seats standard, s55 with 302kw’s just detuned from the m3/4. Adaptive suspension and steering with individual set up, same as the m3/m4. Redesigned front end to help with cooling. And replaces the m2 completely. M2 CS to follow in Q4. Price rise for Comp. expected to be around $5000 only"

It's worth mentioning that many "standard" features on Aus. delivered cars are options in the US. And if that $5000 price bump is correct its a hell of a deal considering what you get. M2 LCI is about $100000au

Interesting that he mentioned an M2 CS to follow in Q4. So maybe there is a different version CS?

[bitcore]

Originally Posted by Edtex

Thank you for the information. My only disappointment with the new M2 is colors. My M4 is Mineral Grey and a very nice color; sorry it is not available.

Plus 1.
I was also planning on an S55 M2 in mineral gray.

[RPM33]

Hopefully a more powerful CS is on the way.

[Edtex]

Originally Posted by bitcore

Plus 1.
I was also planning on an S55 M2 in mineral gray.

Now I'm leaning toward black which would look sharp lowered and with wheel spacers. A few select carbon fiber pieces would finish the look. A stealthy look for a sports car.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Whaou

Hello,
I'm back from my dealer (Belgium), he was yesterday in Munich and confirmed the following

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Whaou

M2 competition to replace M2

Confirmation of what was rumored here too.

Originally Posted by Whaou

Engine S55 with 410HP and 585Nm

Confirmation of what was rumored here too: S55 engine with 410hp (302kW) output: that information features in the pre-series M2 Competition VINs (see here).

But the 585Nm/431.5lb-ft torque figure is new. And it's a lot: it's more torque than the M3/M4 (550 Nm/406lb-ft), just about 15Nm shy of the 600Nm/443lb-ft of the M4 GTS. Current M2 got 500Nm/369lb-ft (465Nm + 35Nm overboost).

Originally Posted by Whaou

Sport seats available, similar to M3/M4 but without hole in it

Confirmation of what was rumored here too:

• Sport Seats Front Driver/Passenger = stock (code 481)
• M Sports Seat = optional (option code 712)

M3/M4 seats, but in Dakota leather upholstery and without the cut-outs of the M3/M4 ZCP seats.

Originally Posted by Whaou

Price is 4-5.000€ more than a M2

All sorts of pricing speculation here. All depends on what BMW will offer as base features for different markets.

Originally Posted by Whaou

Order in June for a July production (MY2019)

Confirmation of what was rumored here too.

Originally Posted by Whaou

Wheel similar to M3/M4 M Competition pack, but 19'

Confirmation of what was rumored here too:

• 437M 19" double-spoke bi-color/black wheels (base M2) = stock (code 2VZ)
• 788M 19" Y-spoke forged lightweight wheels = optional (code 2QT or code 29U)

Hopefully the all-new 788M Y-spoke wheel is more akin the 763M / 359M /127M wheel than the 666M wheel, but that's my personal taste.

Originally Posted by Whaou

Sunset or Sakhir orange available + light metallic grey, but no more mineralgrau

Pre-series M2 Competition VINs (see here) consistently reveal only the five following colors:

• Alpinweiss 3 - paint code 300
• Black Sapphire Metallic - paint code 475
• Long Beach Blue Metallic - paint code C16
• Sunset Orange Metallic - paint code C1X
• Hockenheim Silber Metallic - paint code C33

Mineral Grey has been dropped. No Sakhir Orange. And the launch color Hockenheim Silver Metallic is a new color (it's a light silver - initially exclusive for the M2 Competition but possibly also available for the F90 M5 in the future).

Originally Posted by Whaou

Choice of blue or orange seat stitching

Confirmation of what was rumored here too:

• LCNL = plain leather + blue contrast stitching (Leder Dakota/schwarz Kontr.blau)
• LCNZ = plain leather + orange contrast stitching (Leder Dakota/schw./kontr.orange)
• MDB2 = perforated leather + blue contrast stitching (Led.dak.des.perf.schwarz/blau)
• MDOE = perforated leather + orange contrast stitching (Led.dak.des.perf.schwarz/orange)

Originally Posted by Oxymoron

My (Australian) dealer sent me an update yesterday. Mostly confirming what we already know but I'll share anyway.
"M3/m4 Seats standard, s55 with 302kw’s just detuned from the m3/4. Adaptive suspension and steering with individual set up, same as the m3/m4. Redesigned front end to help with cooling. And replaces the m2 completely. M2 CS to follow in Q4. Price rise for Comp. expected to be around $5000 only"
It's worth mentioning that many "standard" features on Aus. delivered cars are options in the US. And if that $5000 price bump is correct its a hell of a deal considering what you get. M2 LCI is about $100000au

Interesting that adaptive suspension is mentioned, because none of the 136 pre-series M2 Competition VIN build sheets mentions the Adaptive M Suspension (BMW code 2VF). Maybe the dealer took that for granted (by mistake ?) as the M2 Competition gets the Ⓜ1 and Ⓜ2 driving mode buttons on the steering wheel ?

Also interesting that an "M2 CS" allegedly scheduled for Q4 2018 is mentioned. Not seen/heard that confirmed.

[ChrisK]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Thanks.
Confirmation of what was rumored here too.

Thanks!

[RPM33]

Would be great if CS comes at the end of 2018.

[as7920]

Originally Posted by Artemis

..........Confirmation of what was rumored here too:

• 437M 19" double-spoke bi-color/black wheels (base M2) = stock (code 2VZ)
• 788M 19" Y-spoke forged lightweight wheels = optional (code 2QT or code 29U)

Hopefully the all-new 788M Y-spoke wheel is more akin the 763M / 359M /127M wheel than the 666M wheel, but that's my personal taste........

Personally I'd love them to be the 19" version of the 666M and retrofittable on the M2 LCI.

Didn't like them at first but love them now.

[SCOTT26]

No 666M option for the M2 nor the M5 even though they have been used in testing.
They remain Exclusively for the M3/M4 at the current time with the clock now ticking for the M3.
M5 get 5-Spoke blades for its Competition Packet option.

[advantage20]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

No 666M option for the M2 nor the M5 even though they have been used in testing.
They remain Exclusively for the M3/M4 at the current time with the clock now ticking for the M3.
M5 get 5-Spoke blades for its Competition Packet option.

As much I know you are often right, Scott, I'm inclined to think you might be wrong here.

The 5 double spoke wheels in the picture you posted look very much like F10 M5 wheels, either the regular 20" model or the 19" model that is often seen wearing winter tires. The regular/non-Competition F90 M5 has moved away from this 5 double spoke design that's become very common on recent M models, in favor of a little more multi-spoke (7) design yet still retaining key design charecteristics of regular/non-Competition wheels (double spoke, bi-color, recessed centers).

I'd be very surprised if the 'special' F90 M5 i.e. the Competition reverts to this old F10 design type. I'd rather bet it will introduce a wheel design that is all-new while still reminiscent of the other already existing Competition wheels. So not exactly the 666M but something similar, which would provide an immediate sense of visual identity to the growing Competition range of models. Some older F90 spyshots precisely show such a type of wheel design:




These definitely aren't the 666M. If we look closely, we can notice that the tips of each 'double spoke' are further apart when they meet the outer rim as they are on the 666M:



Likewise, the 2002 Hommage Concept showcased quite a similar type of racy multi-spoke design, which might well translate into something close on the M2 Competition:



Ultimately all M Competition models would thus be identifiable by their similar wheel design (10 thin crossed double spokes, single color), just like all regular M models would be identifiable by their own wheel design type (5-7 double spokes, bi-color), which would make perfect sense.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by advantage20

Ultimately all M Competition models would thus be identifiable by their similar wheel design (10 thin crossed spokes, single color), just like all regular M models would be identifiable by their own wheel design type (5-7 double spokes, bi-color), which would make perfect sense.

The all-new 788M wheel (optional for the M2 Competition) has a Y-spoke design.

The 437M stock wheel has a double spoke design.

[advantage20]

Originally Posted by Artemis

The all-new 788M wheel (optional for the M2 Competition) has a Y-spoke design.

The 437M stock wheel has a double spoke design.

So might be similar or identical to the 2002 Hommage Concept as expected. Well there is still a sense of familiarity with the M3/M4 Competition and likely the M5 Competition, in that all Competition wheels are a somewhat crossed, multi(10)-double-spoke, mono-color design, as opposed to parallel/non-crossed, double spoke, black/silver for the regular M models, in order to provide a sense of identity to both the regular M range and the M Competition range, which was my point.

[WAY]

Originally Posted by Oxymoron

My (Australian) dealer sent me an update yesterday. Mostly confirming what we already know but I'll share anyway.

"M3/m4 Seats standard, s55 with 302kw’s just detuned from the m3/4. Adaptive suspension and steering with individual set up, same as the m3/m4. Redesigned front end to help with cooling. And replaces the m2 completely. M2 CS to follow in Q4. Price rise for Comp. expected to be around $5000 only"

It's worth mentioning that many "standard" features on Aus. delivered cars are options in the US. And if that $5000 price bump is correct its a hell of a deal considering what you get. M2 LCI is about $100000au

As far as I know, there are two pieces of info in there that is an error. 😊

[WAY]

I don’t have any info on the wheels, but I would just like to point out that 788M is an old wheel available on E46. It’s sort of 1M like, but busier. Does that give us a hint as to the style of this new wheel?