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I don't think BMW cares too much if a buyer is cross shopping 2-3 of its own vehicles, their goal is to make sure you buy a BMW and not a Tesla/Audi/Mercedes/Porsche...
I think something like this and a M5 could co-exist, they would attract different buyers too. M5 would still be the "track" car, RWD, overall most sporty of the 5 series, hybrid might be the same or even faster in a straight line but that would be it and would allow BMW to offer a Tesla competing 5 series with AWD without having to make the M5 AWD. |
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I don't have any first knowledge; but, it's doesn't seem likely, for example, BMW wants you to come out of your 4 series to go into a 2 series. For the simple reason their profit margin is much higher in 4 cars. My guess is they live in fear of inadvertently creating a publicly successful lower level, low profit car which supplants (in the public's mind) many of their profitable high level cars. Perhaps, even more concerned about that than they are about Tesla. |
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Mercedes has deleted their E550 sedan from the U.S. lineup, and the current rumor is that the next generation W213 E Class, which should debut later this year, will not include a V8 model below the E63 anywhere in the world (there reportedly will be a > 400hp I6 model though). Perhaps BMW will make a similar move later in the G30's lifetime, substituting a performance eDrive model instead. |
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This is so sad. Ive never been able to afford an M, but Im close... But I don't want an electric car, thats just not "real" to me. I want guttural, vibrating, the feeing of power and refinement. A whirring motor, its like the jetsons, lol. And for no reason, there is plenty of gasoline...
Its just my insignificant opinion, I know that, just hoping and praying. Im sure it will be good, no doubt, but not my idea of a sports car if its a hybrid.
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After 5 months in my Tesla "D" (I am a long time BMW owner) I can say I will never buy another car that isn't somewhat electric. It's amazing and very addictive. If BMW can produce a high power performance sedan that I can drive in all electric or hybrid mode I will be back to BMW. For now there is no option other than Tesla.
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Anyway, what I'm basically saying is that I don't see BMW making a non-M car with that much power. I don't see 670hp and 1000Nm happening |
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So it would work for Rolls-Royce Motor Cars especially the next generation Phantom that will be offered with Plug-In Hybrid variant. Fitting for the worlds most advanced luxury vehicle which describes the next Phantom in its entirety.
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I def. agree that there would be cross shopping between this and the 550i. I don't believe, could be completely wrong just my opinion, that M customers would be considering this unless it offered everything else an M can...brakes, handling, suspension etc.
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Anyone who has driven the Tesla knows it's not really 691 HP. Adding the electric motor power to the gasoline motor power isn't SAE certified. The P85D feels like a 400 HP car with 700 ft/lb. The 70D feels like a 300 HP car with 700 ft/lb.
This car will happen. It won't be the "racetrack" model. It's perfectly positioned to neutralize Tesla. It will be at least $100k. BMW boards are overly negative when a rumor of a faster car comes out. It's not like BMW is going to axe their plans and sell uncompetitive cars. |
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