[Hassan1490]

I'm afraid about the performance more than its design.
718 hp for at least 400lb weight gain doesn't look that good.
It is only a very small gain in power to weight ration compared to the current M5. Moreover, the XM powertrain doesn't look that promising. Almost all reviews called negative things about it.

[SFBavarianArea]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

I’d move stat… 💨

Originally Posted by Mr.blue

My very thoughts, why Florida?!

I know they’re currently going through a heat wave…

..maybe BMW seeing how the batteries handles hot & humid?

[hittheapex]

Originally Posted by Idontliketrying

Was told by my regional trainer no touring

I thought they confirmed it was in fact coming to the US

[dezzracer]

Originally Posted by Rat_House

Nice looking Pontiac G8

I wanted one of those so bad back in the day.

[mubarak]

This is easy to go 1000 HP
Very easy …..if not more than that !

[NoMods]

Just from my limited knowledge the EVs seems to be only good at straight line performance, but add in the turns it’ll handle like crap.

[EDWYER]

The rear is looking nice!

[Idontliketrying]

Originally Posted by SFBavarianArea

I know they’re currently going through a heat wave…

..maybe BMW seeing how the batteries handles hot & humid?

I’ve seen the LCI X7 in Orlando so who knows lol

[ErikJ1]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

I’d move stat… 💨

I am 7th Gen FL Man..people generally run from me..not the other way around..😁

[G80POWER]

Originally Posted by Idontliketrying

Same powertrain as XM 718hp

I just heard from the GM at my dealer, who just got back from Germany and was with the M group president, that it will be hybrid and tuned to 800HP+ and they are shooting for sub 2 sec 0-60 similar to Plaid!

[somer]

There's nothing about driving the XM that gave me the vibe "if this loses 1000lbs it will be good". However driving the X3M when it came out i thought "if this loses 600lbs it will be great" and that's what came to fruition with the G80 M3. G90 M5 will be fighting an uphill battle.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by hittheapex

I thought they confirmed it was in fact coming to the US

they as in social media?

[jphcbpa]

Originally Posted by g21

they as in social media?

ynguldyn

[somer]

https://www.autoblog.com/2023/07/27/...ng-spy-photos/

Touring spy pics, they say no hybrid variant possible? I dont see charging doors on either side of the front fenders?

[carseatsm5]

Originally Posted by G80POWER

I just heard from the GM at my dealer, who just got back from Germany and was with the M group president, that it will be hybrid and tuned to 800HP+ and they are shooting for sub 2 sec 0-60 similar to Plaid!

ynguldyn ?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by carseatsm5

ynguldyn ?

I can confirm 8000hp and mandatory NASA astronaut training for all buyers.

[edwinm3]

Originally Posted by ErikJ1

Why is this in S Fla?..we don't test vehicles here..good chance it will be stolen down there..😄

you’d be surprised at how many cars get tested/trashed for days at homestead and no one knows.

[Hit_Apex]

Originally Posted by g21

they as in social media?

Old news from established sources, not even a debate. US dealers already have lists for G99.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by hittheapex

I thought they confirmed it was in fact coming to the US

Originally Posted by armoredsaint

Just from my limited knowledge the EVs seems to be only good at straight line performance, but add in the turns it’ll handle like crap.

That’s the furthest from the truth

Go drive one, you’ll be completely surprised to find the exact opposite

With proper rubber they’re absolutely amazing in any corner

[nick380]

Originally Posted by domarvai

Everyone calling the new hybrid power train “boring” yet the new s68 is still a TT V-8 making 644hp from factory. With instant electric torque. Crazy

With a tune the S63 will do the same. Hybrid just add complexity, and weight. It's all for emissions and complying with regulations. The whole idea behind the F90 was decreased weight, increased performance. Weighing less than the outgoing F10, while adding AWD. This is a fundamental step backwards. Look at the C63 AMG now... the future of M cars looks boring. Interior, boring, exterior BMW has an identity crisis. Put an M2 next to an M3 and you'd ask if they were both the same brand if it weren't for the badge. If I wanted electric torque, I'd just get a P100D.

[Kponti]

ICE cars primarily work their asses off to become like EVs.
EGs:
Lower center of gravity
50/50, 40/60 weight distribution (F/R)
Faster throttle response
Etc etc

Their issue however is the extra weight that comes. And to make matters worse, we have Tesla as our beacon for EVs.
They cannot compare to most legacy automakers in terms of handling and motorsport so they really should not be used to measure what EVs will be like when made to perform.
Look more at the Taycans.

ICE vehicles are getting heavier each iteration. My E63 was about 4700lbs for example right up there with the EVs

[SatinblkF90]

Originally Posted by Kponti

ICE cars primarily work their asses off to become like EVs.
EGs:
Lower center of gravity
50/50, 40/60 weight distribution (F/R)
Faster throttle response
Etc etc

Their issue however is the extra weight that comes. And to make matters worse, we have Tesla as our beacon for EVs.
They cannot compare to most legacy automakers in terms of handling and motorsport so they really should not be used to measure what EVs will be like when made to perform.
Look more at the Taycans.

ICE vehicles are getting heavier each iteration. My E63 was about 4700lbs for example right up there with the EVs

Maybe so, but going from f10 m5 to f90 m5 the car got lighter while adding awd and a smoother torque converter automatic into the mix, so really depends and it’s easily the best m5 ever made. If ICE could of continued to develop further we probably would of seen more examples of this in the future.