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      11-13-2014, 07:01 PM   #1
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BQ Tuning by WedgePerformance - DynoJet Stock Turbo World Record



Just wrapped up a dyno session on my E92 AT over at PSI in Portland. Mods include COBB v3, BQ/WP Advanced Tuning Map, VRSF DP, AFE Stage II Pre DCI, ER CP, FORGE DVs, HPF 7" FMIC, RB PCV, Aquamist HFS4, Factory Catback w/MidCats, FFTEC 455 LPBP.

Fuel - E85 mixed with 92 octane. Around E40. 100% Meth flowing @ 800ml per minute. Although there is probably a few more HP in there with E60 but my HPFP can't handle the fuel demand at higher ethanol content with the torque we are making. Dyno room temps were in the low 60's with one small fan.

We have made a few torque related changes from the (488rwhp) pull we made on the DynoDynamics dyno. More advance, leaner air/fuel ratios, slightly different torque driver settings to allow for torque to ramp up slower making the car much more drive-able.

If I had more time I would have scaled my timing back as the car seems to like 12 ramp to 13. I think I would have made more power as my timing might have been more consistent. Every car is a bit different... and this was a max effort setup and the car delivered 484rwhp. So it's time to back it down to a happy 12 deg where it should still make very impressive stock turbo numbers if not more power. I think with upgraded intake plumbing, upgraded HPFP, and E85 with meth we could see 500rwhp from stock turbos. Do I think it's worth the effort? Nope... RB Turbo's will be next on my list of upgrades.

Stock Turbo Dynojet World Record boyz... What's even more impressive, it was done with an automatic...

Special thanks to @BuraQ... Wouldn't be here today without you bro.



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Great job ken! Even more excited to get my clutch now!
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      11-13-2014, 07:09 PM   #3
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Hell yeah!!!!
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      11-13-2014, 07:13 PM   #4
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How much can it make on e50 alone without meth if you had to guess?
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How much can it make on e50 alone without meth if you had to guess?
I'm guessing it wouldn't be much different... I spray because my HPFP is on the outs and E50+ makes my HPFP suffer.
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Sounds great,congrats man keep up the good work
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Damn! I need to get mine back on the dyno and see where I'm at now.
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Wow, great #s!
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Well done my man, always knew it would hit that... too bad its raining cats and dogs here for I am darn eager to get my car on the dyno as well. We'll see if we can make another one down here using DCT transmission ... but awesome... it feels that way like I told you all earlier, both of these are just re writing N54 stock turbo records..
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awesome DJ numbers.... is it a little on the lean side?
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Good work Ken. Happy for you man. You've been hard at work and the results show
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awesome DJ numbers.... is it a little on the lean side?
We kept it between 14-13 due to the fuel combo being used. Wish we could have used more E85 but his HPFP wasnt liking the torque too much, so we had to use less E85 and more meth

A note for everyone: no two cars are the same. Some may make more power than others even with the same mods and ROM.

Keep this in mind, dont compare your car with another, compare what you are "going to have" or "already have" with what you "had"
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Wow, this is remarkable guys. Great work
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car was happy until about 5700 rpms...then timing corrections. awesome numbers though. Targeting over 200 load at over 19psi and running lean.
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car was happy until about 5700 rpms...then timing corrections. awesome numbers though. Targeting over 200 load at over 19psi and running lean.

I just hope people dont go throwing load target over 200 just like that.... lol
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What kind of "upgraded intake plumbing" are you talking about?
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What kind of "upgraded intake plumbing" are you talking about?
I don't have any specs on them that I can provide, but they have show positive gains on the upgraded twins. Stay tuned for more info.
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Great job Ken. I like that torque curve better than the peakier ones y'all had early on. Definitely looks more driveable. Did you have a chance to record boost with an external gauge?
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Congrats bro.
Good job
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Great job guys. Here's an overlay if the new record vs the previous BMS record. From the graphs BMS is making more torque down low and up top but you guys have a big surge in the middle. The BMS graph is super flat by comparison. Your boost curve is flat so I'm curious what caused the torque surge in the mid range?

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Great job guys. Here's an overlay if the new record vs the previous BMS record. From the graphs BMS is making more torque down low and up top but you guys have a big surge in the middle. The BMS graph is super flat by comparison. Your boost curve is flat so I'm curious what caused the torque surge in the mid range?

First, you are comparing MT vs AT so Wedge's dyno suffers from more drivetrain losses - but being an AT, will be a lot quicker on the street.

Secondly, is not a "torque surge". As explained by Wedge: for this map he made some changes to "allow for torque to ramp up slower making the car much more drive-able".

When it comes to the top end, Terry backed off the power from that dyno of his as it was not sustainable. That top end will stress and kill the stock turbos quickly. So at these levels the only somewhat safe power delivery from stockers comes from the mid range ramping it down rather quickly at the high end. Exactly the way it has been tuned in Wedge's map.
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When it comes to the top end, Terry backed off the power from that dyno of his as it was not sustainable. That top end will stress and kill the stock turbos quickly. So at these levels the only somewhat safe power delivery from stockers comes from the mid range ramping it down rather quickly at the high end. Exactly the way it has been tuned in Wedge's map.
Um... I don't' think these record dyno runs (from Terrys or BQ/WP) are tuned for saftety lol. After reading through another thread on another forum they are running more boost than the DME can read, which is why the boost curve looks flat yet the torque keeps rising. The MAP sensor is maxed!
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