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      02-07-2019, 07:54 PM   #1
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M550 Sport setting for transmission

Love my M550i, as I have said many times before. When I had the M4, I used to run the DCT in Drivelogic 2 setting all the time, because it behaved better and was less clunky than in Drivelogic 1, which was the default setting. I am now running my M550 transmission in Sport mode, whenever I am in heavy traffic, and often otherwise. Just a left flick of the shifter, and it changes everything. It actually acts very much like the M4 DCT in Drivelogic 2. It stays in gear, anticipating your next move. In heavy traffic, this means less braking as traffic slows, because the transmission acts much like a manual would, and the engine brakes for you. When not in traffic, it is always ready to go. Love this car, and the transmission!
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Love my M550i, as I have said many times before. When I had the M4, I used to run the DCT in Drivelogic 2 setting all the time, because it behaved better and was less clunky than in Drivelogic 1, which was the default setting. I am now running my M550 transmission in Sport mode, whenever I am in heavy traffic, and often otherwise. Just a left flick of the shifter, and it changes everything. It actually acts very much like the M4 DCT in Drivelogic 2. It stays in gear, anticipating your next move. In heavy traffic, this means less braking as traffic slows, because the transmission acts much like a manual would, and the engine brakes for you. When not in traffic, it is always ready to go. Love this car, and the transmission!
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I drive mainly surface streets and totally agree with OP. I'm nearly always in sport and use the engine braking to slow. Sport mode has great response.
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Thanks for the review! I've been holding off on the Sport transmission setting until the break-in is completed. Even so, my M550i shifts faster than I ever could shift a 6MT.

I've never owned a DCT, though, is it any faster?
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100% agree the m550 transmission in sport mode is a beautiful thing. For the reasons already stated (mostly the manual-like control) I drive in sport plus almost exclusively. However, I'm always amazed when I drive in comfort mode at how incredibly buttery the upshifts are. Multiple personalities fit this car so well.
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Thanks for the review! I've been holding off on the Sport transmission setting until the break-in is completed. Even so, my M550i shifts faster than I ever could shift a 6MT.

I've never owned a DCT, though, is it any faster?
DCT actually does shift a little faster, but the drawback for me was that it was a rougher shift. Not so much in upshifting, but the downshift was often a clunk into 2nd as you were turning into an intersection. It was the clunkiness that I didn't particularly like. The tranny in the M550 is awesome. Butter smooth in comfort and in sport, but acts like the DCT if you move the shift lever to the left, as I described above.
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Unbelievable car! I went from a 2017 Vette, to a 2018 ZL1, to the 2018 M550i and this car is the real deal! Just raced my buddies 2009 Gallardo and blew his doors off twice! Can't really find any faults the best daily driver I've had hands down!
Couldn't agree more LETSROLL! Had an M4 for three years and loved it, but my M550i is the berries for a DD and for me too, the best DD ever! Great handling, great performance, but a little softer suspension, more room and easier entry/exit make it a winner for me! And the same 0-60 of 3.9 that my M4 was. Priceless!!!
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Do you guys know - what's the difference between the "sport" mode that we access by moving the shift selector to the left, and the "sport" transmission mode that's selectable via Sport Individual driving mode? Is there one? Just two different ways to access the same change, or do they invoke different behavior?
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Moving the lever to the left allows you to shift gears manually (via lever or paddles) in any mode (comfort, sport, etc). Changing mode changes shift points, throttle response, suspension, etc.

haven’t tried this yet, but heard from a genius that in sport plus, if you go into manual shift mode, the tranny will not change gears unless told to. In other modes, it will hold the gear while sensible, but will shift if the revs go too high
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Moving the lever to the left allows you to shift gears manually (via lever or paddles) in any mode (comfort, sport, etc). Changing mode changes shift points, throttle response, suspension, etc.

haven’t tried this yet, but heard from a genius that in sport plus, if you go into manual shift mode, the tranny will not change gears unless told to. In other modes, it will hold the gear while sensible, but will shift if the revs go too high
Car doesn't upshift for you in sport manual. You can bounce off the limiter and it won't do anything.
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Love my M550i, as I have said many times before. When I had the M4, I used to run the DCT in Drivelogic 2 setting all the time, because it behaved better and was less clunky than in Drivelogic 1, which was the default setting. I am now running my M550 transmission in Sport mode, whenever I am in heavy traffic, and often otherwise. Just a left flick of the shifter, and it changes everything. It actually acts very much like the M4 DCT in Drivelogic 2. It stays in gear, anticipating your next move. In heavy traffic, this means less braking as traffic slows, because the transmission acts much like a manual would, and the engine brakes for you. When not in traffic, it is always ready to go. Love this car, and the transmission!
Unbelievable car! I went from a 2017 Vette, to a 2018 ZL1, to the 2018 M550i and this car is the real deal! Just raced my buddies 2009 Gallardo and blew his doors off twice! Can't really find any faults the best daily driver I've had hands down!
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Do you guys know - what's the difference between the "sport" mode that we access by moving the shift selector to the left, and the "sport" transmission mode that's selectable via Sport Individual driving mode? Is there one? Just two different ways to access the same change, or do they invoke different behavior?
Not absolutely certain, but it appears to me to be different ways to get to the same thing, from a purely transmission perspective. Of course, Sport (or Sport Plus) driving mode also changes the suspension, steering, engine map, turbo waste gate behavior, and exhaust valves. If you just want the transmission changes, and leave everything else in comfort, adaptive, etc, just move the lever to the left (which, BTW, also turns off ASS). Indeed, multiple personalities........just like me (and many of you, I suspect!). I thought my M4 was cool, but this is even better given the comfort and elegance with which you can do all the above, without worrying about spinning out from uncontrolled rear wheels. This is such a great car!
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Not absolutely certain, but it appears to me to be different ways to get to the same thing, from a purely transmission perspective. Of course, Sport (or Sport Plus) driving mode also changes the suspension, steering, engine map, turbo waste gate behavior, and exhaust valves. If you just want the transmission changes, and leave everything else in comfort, adaptive, etc, just move the lever to the left (which, BTW, also turns off ASS). Indeed, multiple personalities........just like me (and many of you, I suspect!). I thought my M4 was cool, but this is even better given the comfort and elegance with which you can do all the above, without worrying about spinning out from uncontrolled rear wheels. This is such a great car!
Yeah, after experimenting a bit today, I think this is right - the transmission's shifting behavior, shift points, etc. seem to be the same whether the Driving Experience is set to "Sport" (or Sport Individual if you've configured it similarly) or the shifter is moved to the left with Driving Experience in any other mode.

The only difference I'm aware of is with respect to using the paddles - if the shifter is in the "D" position (to the right), and you use the paddles to up/downshift, the shift mode will stay in M/manual only briefly (I assume until it decides you're done being sporty for now) and then return to D/automatic. If the shifter is moved to the left to select Sport, then using the paddles will change to Manual shift mode, and it'll stay there until you move the shifter back to the right. This seems to be irrespective of which Driving Experience mode you're in.

Any other opinions/data points?
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