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      01-18-2018, 02:50 PM   #375
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On Sunday there will be football games, and the teams on the field will be opponents.

Should we yell "FAKE TEAM! FAKE TEAM!" because they run opposing plays?

(1.) Media is not an encyclopedia

(2.) An informed citizen selects multiple sources of news, opinion, and information/data; "news" is your synthesis of all of them.

(3.) The entire foundation of US media is to be an opponent of, and therefore a check on, the government.
Gosh, GG, that seems an awful lot like - you know - work. My single-source echo chamber of information is much easier.
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You're right: A "Trump home run" is not totally collapsing when you're the most unpopular president in history.

You're off topic. I expect better from you.
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On Sunday there will be football games, and the teams on the field will be opponents.

Should we yell "FAKE TEAM! FAKE TEAM!" because they run opposing plays?

(1.) Media is not an encyclopedia

(2.) An informed citizen selects multiple sources of news, opinion, and information/data; "news" is your synthesis of all of them.

(3.) The entire foundation of US media is to be an opponent of, and therefore a check on, the government.
1. Correct but they need to do better. I can find information while I'm in meetings that debunk their BS. No excuse for inaccuracy.

2. The problem is that 75% of the sources slant one way. This is a problem.

3. Are you serious?!?!! As Chris Cuomo said, "We were in the tank for Obama". They were complicit in his deception. Get real and become objective.

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You're off topic. I expect better from you.
Get in line!
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(1.) Media is not an encyclopedia
(2.) An informed citizen selects multiple sources of news, opinion, and information/data; "news" is your synthesis of all of them.
(3.) The entire foundation of US media is to be an opponent of, and therefore a check on, the government.
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1. Correct but they need to do better. I can find information while I'm in meetings that debunk their BS. No excuse for inaccuracy.
2. The problem is that 75% of the sources slant one way. This is a problem.
3. Are you serious?!?!! As Chris Cuomo said, "We were in the tank for Obama". They were complicit in his deception.
Let's talk tires.
‣ You trade-off of cost, wear, and performance dry/wet/cold.
‣ There's no free, lasts forever, all-condition high performance tire.
The same is true with information, MK:
There's no free, unbiased, highly accurate, and instantly available source - we trade-off of cost, timeliness, accuracy, and viewpoint.

That's just how the World has always been, and it's how it will always be.

Let's talk the rumor mill.

I work for a multi-national corporation.
Information is the coin of the realm: everyday, multiple times I hear the words, "hey, I heard that ...".

You know what I do when I hear that? If I care, I attempt to validate it:

▹ If I can't validate it, I file it away as a maybe
▹ If it's wrong, I don't hold it against the source - they might be right next time
▹ If it's right I make a mental note that [dude] might be a good source for [info]

I do the same thing with "the media". For me, I'd rather have timely wrong information than delayed accurate information ... because even wrong information tells you something and I can validate since I don't rely on one single thing.

99.9% of people complaining about "the MSM" have no idea what's on it: they never read it or watch it!

In a related story ...
Kellogg (Northwestern) did a study of VCs, PEGs, and hedge funds and found that those with the highest performance, and therefore pay, were correlated to those with the most women. Those same top companies were also correlated as the most unhappy. The speculated answer was because human nature drives us to surround ourselves with those that give us confirmation bias (are most similar to our personalities), even when it goes against our best interest.

Don't you find it ironic that people who complain the most about biased news, consume the fewest and most biased information sources?

Most people don't post here because they're looking to consider alternative opinions ... and that's a weakness you can fix or indulge.
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Get in line!
Let's talk tires.
‣ You trade-off of cost, wear, and performance dry/wet/cold.
‣ There's no free, lasts forever, all-condition high performance tire.
The same is true with information, MK:
There's no free, unbiased, highly accurate, and instantly available source - we trade-off of cost, timeliness, accuracy, and viewpoint.

That's just how the World has always been, and it's how it will always be.

Let's talk the rumor mill.

I work for a multi-national corporation.
Information is the coin of the realm: everyday, multiple times I hear the words, "hey, I heard that ...".

You know what I do when I hear that? If I care, I attempt to validate it:

▹ If I can't validate it, I file it away as a maybe
▹ If it's wrong, I don't hold it against the source - they might be right next time
▹ If it's right I make a mental note that [dude] might be a good source for [info]

I do the same thing with "the media". For me, I'd rather have timely wrong information than delayed accurate information ... because even wrong information tells you something and I can validate since I don't rely on one single thing.

99.9% of people complaining about "the MSM" have no idea what's on it: they never read it or watch it!

In a related story ...
Kellogg (Northwestern) did a study of VCs, PEGs, and hedge funds and found that those with the highest performance, and therefore pay, were correlated to those with the most women. Those same top companies were also correlated as the most unhappy. The speculated answer was because human nature drives us to surround ourselves with those that give us confirmation bias (are most similar to our personalities), even when it goes against our best interest.

Don't you find it ironic that people who complain the most about biased news, consume the fewest and most biased information sources?

Most people don't post here because they're looking to consider alternative opinions ... and that's a weakness you can fix or indulge.
Lets talk tires.
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      01-19-2018, 10:22 AM   #380
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Those are the tires that I have on both the M4 and Z3
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CNN Poll: Majority Had Positive Opinion Of Trump SOTU [VIDEO]


https://www.google.com/amp/amp.daily...ve-trump-sotu/
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Those are the tires that I have on both the M4 and Z3
They are fantastic tires. Crazy wear rating, super sticky, fantastic in water and don't break the bank.


Hmmmmmm...it looks like you have it all, correct?

Where is GrussGott on this one?
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Yes, among viewers, which were disproportionally, a) conservatives; b) impartial; or c) liberals who supported Trump from the outset...

You think an ultra-liberal watched that shit?
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Yes, among viewers, which were disproportionally, a) conservatives; b) impartial; or c) liberals who supported Trump from the outset...

You think an ultra-liberal watched that shit?
All AMERICANS should have tuned in unless they had truly pressing matters to attend to.
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Yes, among viewers, which were disproportionally, a) conservatives; b) impartial; or c) liberals who supported Trump from the outset...

You think an ultra-liberal watched that shit?
I think quite a few did.

Gives them ammunition to go on rants about POTUS and up their subscriptions to CNN, MSNBC, and so on.
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I think quite a few did.

Gives them ammunition to go on rants about POTUS and up their subscriptions to CNN, MSNBC, and so on.
Do you have an exclusive FOX subscription?
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I just had to post this here.



Weeeeeeeeeeeee!
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Weeeeeeeeeeeee!
MSNBC Staff, collective insanity diagnosis confirmed.
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MSNBC Staff, collective insanity diagnosis confirmed.
Agreed. They are just as partisan crazy as FOX. Both suck.
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Good. Since they lost most of their good talent (O'Reilly, Kelly, Susteren) its been almost unwatchable. Especially the milktoast guy, Tucker Carlson. He's awful. I still like Shep Smith, and I didn't realize Hemmer is still on. I liked him on CNN.
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Good. Since they lost most of their good talent (O'Reilly, Kelly, Susteren) its been almost unwatchable. Especially the milktoast guy, Tucker Carlson. He's awful. I still like Shep Smith, and I didn't realize Hemmer is still on. I liked him on CNN.
I like Hemmer too. Judge Nap seems a straight shooter when he is on. I try to stomach only their most neutral commentators. I watch more Fox business.

Stuart Varney makes me laugh and his show is entertaining.

Fox and Friends in the morning is the absolute worst.
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Yep. The dncCNN has a bullseye on Bernie...again. Shameful that Warren is pulling this on her 'friend' Bernie.

The tweet storm calling out CNN's absolute trash network was brutal and totally justified. They are lower than low losers.
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Yep. The dncCNN has a bullseye on Bernie...again. Shameful that Warren is pulling this on her 'friend' Bernie.

The tweet storm calling out CNN's absolute trash network was brutal and totally justified. They are lower than low losers.
Did the tweet storm originate out of St. Petersburg Russia?
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