[HerkHealer]

If you havent seen it yet, Bimmerpost added a grayed out G60 tab.

Someone has inside info on the lineup and its NOT good. No more M550 or V8's as it looks now. There's even talk the M5's might not get the new S68 motor.

Sad day. I guess on a brighter note, those of us with M550's are about to see a value bump.

https://g60.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1868766

[AP]

That doesn't surprise me
I'm surprised we got the 550 in the U.K. (LCI only) and with all that's going on as regards climate change and the fact I've only knowingly seen 1 I'm the U.K., suspect they will drop it for the U.K. market even it it did exist for the g60

Right now is the last chance to by one I fear here before the g60 arrives

Not a fan of it from what's been seen so far.( lcd dashboard, non round steering wheel)

[2022M550i]

Originally Posted by HerkHealer

If you havent seen it yet, Bimmerpost added a grayed out G60 tab.

Someone has inside info on the lineup and its NOT good. No more M550 or V8's as it looks now. There's even talk the M5's might not get the new S68 motor.

Sad day. I guess on a brighter note, those of us with M550's are about to see a value bump.

https://g60.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1868766

The reason why I bought my M550i and Viper. You'll never see another American made V10. Value doubled since i bought it. I have a feeling the M550i values will rise in a few years….especially the low mileage ones. Last of the Mohegan's.

[Joe-BMW33]

We have been very lucky to have had the opportunity to have the M550 as an option. The M550 is (was) an anomaly for BMW to create a V8 car that so closely bumps up against the real M5 in terms of performance and styling. Even the E39 540 was 100+hp behind the E39 M5. I won't even comment on the E60 which was just a mistake on every front, but the 545 had a V8 and the M5 a V10. BMW knows it is close to the end of the line for 100% ICE and even closer to the end for big block V8's. They are most definitely going to cash in on exclusivity by my making the next M5 be the only 5 series with the last V8's ever sold. It will be a V8 PHEV and it will be a monster.

This isn't news for me. As you said, we have a unicorn in the making. As much as us old schoolers are stuck in the "V8's" of yesteryear, the reality is that a B58 with a few strong electric motors will blow us away. I love the V8 now in the G30 because it provides effortless pull from zero, but this is where electric motors shine even better, so we won't miss that over the harder working ICE only B48 and B58's, like we do now.

We will miss the sound though and we all know, that's only a matter of time before all cars are muzzled.

It is a sad day though, but keep in mind that the E28 M5 and E34 M5 were inline 6's.

[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by 2022M550i

The reason why I bought my M550i and Viper. You'll never see another American made V10. Value doubled since i bought it. I have a feeling the M550i values will rise in a few years….especially the low mileage ones. Last of the Mohegan's.

Ironically, as I said in another post today, I am seriously considering storing this thing for 20 years before I get to 50k miles. I want to have "that car" on Bring a Trailer like the E39 M5.

[Sam_M550i]

Originally Posted by Joe-BMW33

Ironically, as I said in another post today, I am seriously considering storing this thing for 20 years before I get to 50k miles. I want to have "that car" on Bring a Trailer like the E39 M5.

I'd love to own a great condition E39 M5, awesome car. A buddy has a 2000 E39 M5 decked out with all the Dinan items. First time I went in a ride in that thing I was so impressed and have wanted one since but their prices are insane.

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by Joe-BMW33

Ironically, as I said in another post today, I am seriously considering storing this thing for 20 years before I get to 50k miles. I want to have "that car" on Bring a Trailer like the E39 M5.

2023 will be the last year for the G30 M550, obviously. In 2026, I will have 4 years and potentially approaching 90k miles on my 2018 540. I'll be paying attention to how the '22 & '23 M550's are selling coming off 2-3 year leases. That's probably going to be my window to obtain one of these before they all have too many miles or too big of a price tag on them. If the value takes off quicker than that and I don't get a chance, I will live. But I'm definitely keeping that possibility in my back pocket.

[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by Sam_M550i

I'd love to own a great condition E39 M5, awesome car. A buddy has a 2000 E39 M5 decked out with all the Dinan items. First time I went in a ride in that thing I was so impressed and have wanted one since but their prices are insane.

I am kicking myself. In 2018 I bought a low mile 2003 540i. It was an impulse buy off BaT. I thought about the E39 M5 at the time, which was only $5-$6k more. Man was that a mistake. I am constantly looking at them now on BaT going for $50,000 and in some cases $100,000.

Best 5 series ever made. My 19-year old E39 handles better than my M550 and is just as much fun to drive.

[HerkHealer]

Originally Posted by Joe-BMW33

We have been very lucky to have had the opportunity to have the M550 as an option. The M550 is (was) an anomaly for BMW to create a V8 car that so closely bumps up against the real M5 in terms of performance and styling. Even the E39 540 was 100+hp behind the E39 M5. I won't even comment on the E60 which was just a mistake on every front, but the 545 had a V8 and the M5 a V10. BMW knows it is close to the end of the line for 100% ICE and even closer to the end for big block V8's. They are most definitely going to cash in on exclusivity by my making the next M5 be the only 5 series with the last V8's ever sold. It will be a V8 PHEV and it will be a monster.

This isn't news for me. As you said, we have a unicorn in the making. As much as us old schoolers are stuck in the "V8's" of yesteryear, the reality is that a B58 with a few strong electric motors will blow us away. I love the V8 now in the G30 because it provides effortless pull from zero, but this is where electric motors shine even better, so we won't miss that over the harder working ICE only B48 and B58's, like we do now.

We will miss the sound though and we all know, that's only a matter of time before all cars are muzzled.

It is a sad day though, but keep in mind that the E28 M5 and E34 M5 were inline 6's.

Yea, the new fast option will be the 550e, which is the same as the Euro 545e. AutotopNL did a great review on the 545e and that mofo is FAST.

[HerkHealer]

Originally Posted by 2022M550i

The reason why I bought my M550i and Viper. You'll never see another American made V10. Value doubled since i bought it. I have a feeling the M550i values will rise in a few years….especially the low mileage ones. Last of the Mohegan's.

Those getting the 2023 will be worth big money. Instant collector car.

[2022M550i]

Originally Posted by Joe-BMW33

Ironically, as I said in another post today, I am seriously considering storing this thing for 20 years before I get to 50k miles. I want to have "that car" on Bring a Trailer like the E39 M5.

The viper has 5000 miles on it. The BMW has half that. All my friends are into cars and they break my balls because I don't drive them much, I don't give a shit about that. I own them. If I choose to drive them, I can. If I want to set up a lawnchair in a garage and stare at them while drinking a beer, I can. They always compare it to like not banging your girlfriend because you're saving her for the next guy.

The Viper is an attention getter. It looks absolutely wicked in person…. Pictures don't do it justice. Oddly enough, I get almost the same attention in the M550i…. maybe it's the color combo.

Everyone is always trying to screw around with me on the road. I love it. i'm the old guy in the sedan that's willing to dish out the gravy anytime. All the young guys know what it is and around where I live, it's like a unicorn siting to them. Every time I drive it, I am getting challenged by the Mercedes and BMW tuner crowd…. I love it. The M550i is always up to task.

[claykin]

Originally Posted by HerkHealer

If you havent seen it yet, Bimmerpost added a grayed out G60 tab.

Someone has inside info on the lineup and its NOT good. No more M550 or V8's as it looks now. There's even talk the M5's might not get the new S68 motor.

Sad day. I guess on a brighter note, those of us with M550's are about to see a value bump.

https://g60.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1868766

Possibly no new V8 for the G60 but that's not been confirmed. However, according to BMWBlog a hybrid S68 based M5 is confirmed.

https://www.bmwblog.com/2022/06/04/b...rms-m5-hybrid/

My only comment on G30 N63 based cars getting a used value bump is don't hold your breath. However, enjoy your car until the next one that catches your eye arrives.

[HerkHealer]

Originally Posted by claykin

Possibly no new V8 for the G60 but that's not been confirmed. However, according to BMWBlog a hybrid S68 based M5 is confirmed.

I read that Blog 3 months ago also. This new info was from last week.
I'm hoping the M5 still gets the S68, but the M5 thread inside the new G60 tab doesnt look promising.
Someone with "inside info" is claiming the 2024 M5 will be 100% EV with 1,000+ hp.

[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by claykin

My only comment on G30 N63 based cars getting a used value bump is don't hold your breath. However, enjoy your car until the next one that catches your eye arrives.

Maybe this isn't what you are inferring, but I think you mean the TU only based F10 N63 crowd. I wouldn't be so quick to put the TU2 or TU3 into the black sheep pen of BMW V8's, especially with no real evidence when only a few have turned 75k miles.

Now, am I expecting a used value bump right now because of a blog, nope. But it ain't because of the N63 in the G30.

[HerkHealer]

Originally Posted by Joe-BMW33

Maybe this isn't what you are inferring, but I think you mean the TU only based F10 N63 crowd. I wouldn't be so quick to put the TU2 or TU3 into the black sheep pen of BMW V8's, especially with no real evidence when only a few have turned 75k miles.

Now, am I expecting a used value bump right now because of a blog, nope. But it ain't because of the N63 in the G30.

If there are any 2023 M550's to hit a Dealership, for sure you're going to see a HUGE markup.

The value increase will not happen quickly, for sure, but I have no doubt the last 4 years of M5/M550's will be desirable as they are probably the last ICE V8 from BMW.

[claykin]

Originally Posted by HerkHealer

I read that Blog 3 months ago also. This new info was from last week.
I'm hoping the M5 still gets the S68, but the M5 thread inside the new G60 tab doesnt look promising.
Someone with "inside info" is claiming the 2024 M5 will be 100% EV with 1,000+ hp.

This is likely the most reliable info you'll read on what's coming.

https://g30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=901686

[claykin]

Originally Posted by Joe-BMW33

Maybe this isn't what you are inferring, but I think you mean the TU only based F10 N63 crowd. I wouldn't be so quick to put the TU2 or TU3 into the black sheep pen of BMW V8's, especially with no real evidence when only a few have turned 75k miles.

Now, am I expecting a used value bump right now because of a blog, nope. But it ain't because of the N63 in the G30.

My comment is solely based on the used car market and commonly where production vehicles fit into it. Nothing specific to the N63 itself.

Once BMW produces an IC G60 that performs as well, or outperforms the G30 with the N63TU3, then this will be what everyone will want.... It's just the cycle of things. Right now we're in the cycle of people who have newer G30's who are trying to validate their purchase decision. I say, enjoy it and don't worry about it. Tomorrow there will surely be something you'll want to replace it with.

[BMW012]

540i (B58M2, 370hp), 530e (B48M2+EM), 550ex (B58U2+EM, 480hp), M560e (B58M2+EM, 565hp)

M560e will be the top of the line, before the M5. If the above is official looks like no v8...

M5 will most likely get the same/similar engine as the XM suv. S68.

[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by claykin

My comment is solely based on the used car market and commonly where production vehicles fit into it. Nothing specific to the N63 itself.

Once BMW produces an IC G60 that performs as well, or outperforms the G30 with the N63TU3, then this will be what everyone will want.... It's just the cycle of things. Right now we're in the cycle of people who have newer G30's who are trying to validate their purchase decision. I say, enjoy it and don't worry about it. Tomorrow there will surely be something you'll want to replace it with.

Got it, thank you. I like the way you think. I think the same way. I am not going to lie though, in this rare market with low supply, I have enjoyed knowing and seeing the same spec car as mine selling for $5,000 to $10,000 more than I paid for it in April 2021. That NEVER happens with cars. But yes, normally I write the check and enjoy it and don't look at value. Kind of like how I haven't looked at my brokerage and mutual fund account since late January when I thought I was buying low.

[claykin]

Originally Posted by HerkHealer

If there are any 2023 M550's to hit a Dealership, for sure you're going to see a HUGE markup.

The value increase will not happen quickly, for sure, but I have no doubt the last 4 years of M5/M550's will be desirable as they are probably the last ICE V8 from BMW.

Same was said about the V8 M3, the V10 M5, etc... But it rarely materializes in the real world for various reasons including the next model being more desirable. Sure, if you keep it pristine, ultra low miles, etc. you stand a chance at a nice bump, but didn't you buy your M550i to drive it? And, by the time the G60 models arrive how many miles will be on your M550i?

BTW, I ordered a new BMW recently as my lease is ending. I was offered a slot for a 2023 M550i at MSRP or slightly under but I passed on it. Plus, I think at the moment BMW is offering $3K+ in incentives on the 2023 M550i. If you're curious why I passed it's because I just didn't want the last year of the car unless the discount was huge, which it won't be. Plus I don't really need the V8 and the 540i is still under option constraint so I passed on that too. Next car will be a G16 in a few months, I hope. lol

[claykin]

Originally Posted by Joe-BMW33

Got it, thank you. I like the way you think. I think the same way. I am not going to lie though, in this rare market with low supply, I have enjoyed knowing and seeing the same spec car as mine selling for $5,000 to $10,000 more than I paid for it in April 2021. That NEVER happens with cars. But yes, normally I write the check and enjoy it and don't look at value. Kind of like how I haven't looked at my brokerage and mutual fund account since late January when I thought I was buying low.

Thanks. Appreciate that.

My 540i lease is ending and I gave a thought about buying out my car. However I got a deal in 2019 (discount plus incentives was ~$12K off MSRP and residual was unusually high). The payoff is within $1,000 of the used value (got 3 bids) but I'd have to pay $2,500 in sales tax if I buy it out which essentially makes it an upside down deal. And, my factory warranty will end in under 5K miles so then I'll need to either play russian roulette or spend $6K plus on an extended warranty (a decent one). I voted to take a pass. However, back in late 2021 if I tried to sell the car I could have walked away with about $2,000 but that wasn't smart either since I needed a replacement and inventory is/was scarce.

With the economic slow down used values are dropping for many models. Not all, but many including G30s. Once the G60 models come, value drop will likely accelerate unless BMW boondoggles the G60. Keep an eye on the new G70 to get an idea if they got it right. Well, at least from a reliability standpoint because the G70 is not the best looking BMW ever.

[Mandingo9]

Originally Posted by 2022M550i

they always compare it to not banging your girlfriend because you're saving her for the next guy.

Do you have any ex g/f numbers you can pass along