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      05-12-2020, 11:03 PM   #1585
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      05-13-2020, 09:36 AM   #1586
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Car and Driver strapped a '21 to the dyno and it made 388whp.

It's essentially filling the role the base C7 Z51 had in the market in terms of performance. I'm seriously impressed.
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I good friend of mine has a beautiful white one. Cool car, very light/twitchy. It's like a Miata with power IMO. And I don't mean that in a bad way.

Rolling runs vs my M5 stock vs stock it was way behind. He did intake and JB4 tune, and its maybe on my back bumper from 50-130. Cool car!
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      05-13-2020, 01:22 PM   #1588
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MY2021 looks like a better M-car than the M2.
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      05-14-2020, 11:19 AM   #1591
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The DME for the X3 M/M4 M show the Supra in the image, S58 Supra coming?

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=12_2464
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      05-14-2020, 11:47 AM   #1592
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      05-14-2020, 01:25 PM   #1593
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MY2021 looks like a better M-car than the M2.


I literally bought the M2 because I thought it was a better Supra than the Supra.

(The old, MKIV Supra was a manual transmission, 2+2, with a twin turbo i-6)
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      05-14-2020, 05:23 PM   #1594
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      05-18-2020, 05:01 PM   #1595
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2021 Pricing

2.0 $42,990
3.0 $50,990

$8,000 differences

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/202...revealed.5285/
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2021 Supra production has resumed at Magna Steyr

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/202...na-steyr.5320/

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The 4cyl model would be perfect with a manual. Good balance, the right amount of horsepower, lighter weight. ~$40k for that would honestly be a steal.
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Seen my first one in the wild yesterday. Wasn't able to get a close look at it as it was going the other way...other than being stopped at opposing red-lights.

I like the BMW Z4 M40i better in appearance from what I could see.

Also it was a very fun car to drive on the track last year during my "M" driving experience.
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The 4cyl model would be perfect with a manual. Good balance, the right amount of horsepower, lighter weight. ~$40k for that would honestly be a steal.
The thing is, you canít mention the six cylinder Supra and the 370z in the same sentence, because despite som on paper similarities, the Supra is both much nicer and much more capable.

But once we start talking about the 4-banger.... well the 370z is $30k makes 330ish hp and comes with a manual. It weighs a similar amount and yes, itís much older and less sophisticated, but it still comes with a warranty, and will likely be more reliable anyway.
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The thing is, you can’t mention the six cylinder Supra and the 370z in the same sentence, because despite som on paper similarities, the Supra is both much nicer and much more capable.

But once we start talking about the 4-banger.... well the 370z is $30k makes 330ish hp and comes with a manual. It weighs a similar amount and yes, it’s much older and less sophisticated, but it still comes with a warranty, and will likely be more reliable anyway.
Not sure about the reliability part. I have a co-worker that had one and he had a fair bit of issues (transmission, clutch, oil consumption) not to mention mediocre Nissan build quality and it's not like it's a high tech car as it's all carryover from the first decade of this century. Nissan is the Chrysler of Japanese automakers offering cheap (price and quality) vehicles for the masses and reliability is always hit or miss.
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Not sure about the reliability part. I have a co-worker that had one and he had a fair bit of issues (transmission, clutch, oil consumption) not to mention mediocre Nissan build quality and it's not like it's a high tech car as it's all carryover from the first decade of this century. Nissan is the Chrysler of Japanese automakers offering cheap (price and quality) vehicles for the masses and reliability is always hit or miss.
I bought a 350Z new in 2006 and dailied it for 14 years. I maintained it, but it led a hard life too. Lots and lots of drifting along with a fair amount of time spent sideways on gravel roads.

Obviously my experiences, like your friends were anecdotal, but I think owning the car from new and actually performing maintenance on it meant that it held up pretty well IMHO. It wasn't perfect, but considering how hard I drove that thing, i was impressed with its durability.
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the new supra looks so nice
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Not sure about the reliability part. I have a co-worker that had one and he had a fair bit of issues (transmission, clutch, oil consumption) not to mention mediocre Nissan build quality and it's not like it's a high tech car as it's all carryover from the first decade of this century. Nissan is the Chrysler of Japanese automakers offering cheap (price and quality) vehicles for the masses and reliability is always hit or miss.
The VQ35HR is not a great engine by today's standards, either IMO. I test drove a 370Z and the engine paled in comparison to the S54 in my Z4M despite being similar on paper. It's coarse, doesn't feel willing to rev, and doesn't have the torque of the turbocharged cars to make up for those deficiencies. The B48 4 cylinder is down on power but it's probably a nicer engine.
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The 4cyl model would be perfect with a manual. Good balance, the right amount of horsepower, lighter weight. ~$40k for that would honestly be a steal.
Since we're dreaming... $30k would be even better.
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Since we're dreaming... $30k would be even better.
I agree. Itís unfortunate it will never see a manual.
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