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Well, well, well. Who would have thought that the mighty German brand would eventually return to glory, producing the best vehicles. Some made right here in the U.S.
Bravo!!! https://jalopnik.com/consumer-report...e-u-1851290402 Quote:
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Objectively BMW is currently making the best cars it's ever made. That's unfortunately a controversial statement around here for some reason. Yes I understand they may not all be the prettiest. But in terms of performance, quality, luxury, reliability, they're at the top of their game. The results speak for themselves. This is the 2nd year in a row that they're at #1.
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Agree that BMW is near the top. #1 position should include BMW, Honda and Toyota. No rating agency is precise enough to designate only one carmaker as the best.
On the other hand, it is becoming more and more widely known, that MB is at the bottom of the heap. MB is really poor in almost every measure of quality, reliability and dealer experience. |
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Not really surprising if you think about it... the B48/B58 paired w Zf8 are incredibly stout drivetrains... Idrive has become one of the best infotainment systems around.... but man... Mercedes - talk about falling hard... wtf was running that company and thought that making 4 cylinder AMG cars, egg shaped EVs and massively unreliable cars w poor quality control would be a symbol of success...
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That thing is sooooooo ugly I don't care if it was #1 and they were paying ME!
Can't say I have ever bought anything based on CR or really any kind of reliability ratings. Now certain brands have a reputation of being extra unreliable (MB, Fiat, Land Rover come to mind) and I might give second thought to buying a used one of those, but if I really wanted one I would probably still get a new one or a CPO or just lease it. I feel like BMW is going through another Bangle Butt phase. Honestly some of them look ok... but some.... ![]() |
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Now if BMW could just address their overstyling issues.
My 2016 M235 6MT with 80K miles and Stage 2 mods, which I ordered new, has been absolutely bulletproof for over 8 years of ownership. The ONLY repair I had to make was get a software reprogram back in April 2016 because the car didn't like the Midwest winter fuel. That's it. I do all the maintenance on the car and inspect the engine bay once a month for leaks and such. The only thing showing some oil weepage is the valvetronic servomotor gasket which is a $10 part and a 2 minute repair. The car is still on the stock clutch too. Not a freaking rattle in the car. I love this car and motor so much that I plan to replace it with a used 2017-2018 M2 DCT. I would keep it if it were an automatic. My other car is a Cayman 6MT and I don't need two 6MTs.
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