[Murf993]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Conflict is never what an LEO hopes for. Conflict means the potential for death or serious bodily injury not only for the disturbing parties, but also for you and/or your partners. Mitigation is the preferred approach.

The fact is that the police are almost alway reacting to a situation that they are called to or find themselves in. Use of Force is driven by the subject not the police.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by TiMSport

Ugh, that's just sick. I wouldn't go anywhere near a club if I knew that crap was going on.

You never know until…..


….it has already happened. That's the risks of going to large crowded events.

[UncleWede]

This may be a more lawyer question, but does a mistrial end all future trials on the same charge? The DA is about to get himself in jail for contempt

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

This may be a more lawyer question, but does a mistrial end all future trials on the same charge? The DA is about to get himself in jail for contempt

A mistrial can be retried, but depending on the reasons for the mistrial and/or the strength of the case, the prosecution may not seek to retry the case and waste taxpayer dollars.

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

A mistrial can be retried, but depending on the reasons for the mistrial and/or the strength of the case, the prosecution may not seek to retry the case and waste taxpayer dollars.

Are you watching? DA violated his 5th, and the judge had a FIT!
Not to be outdone, he later attempted to "impeach the witness" with information the judge had already decaled inadmissible.

THEN he went on to "question" the witness, after witness said he didn't know much about ammo, about the difference between FMJ and hollow, by incorrectly describing the ability to pass thru multiple victims, corrected by the judge on the facts.

Then they broke for lunch . . .

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

Are you watching? DA violated his 5th, and the judge had a FIT!
Not to be outdone, he later attempted to "impeach the witness" with information the judge had already decaled inadmissible.

THEN he went on to "question" the witness, after witness said he didn't know much about ammo, about the difference between FMJ and hollow, by incorrectly describing the ability to pass thru multiple victims, corrected by the judge on the facts.

Then they broke for lunch . . .

What are you on about? What case is this?

[upstatedoc]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

What are you on about? What case is this?

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/11/01/u...ial/index.html

[upstatedoc]

This DA is already on the judges shit list. And also the DA just dropped the F bomb twice on national TV

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by upstatedoc

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/11/01/u...ial/index.html

Ah, I didn't know that was happening. That will be interesting to follow.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by upstatedoc

This DA is already on the judges shit list. And also the DA just dropped the F bomb twice on national TV

I suspect Rittenhouse will be cleared.

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I suspect Rittenhouse will be cleared.

Do you think this will result in unrest?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Murf993

Do you think this will result in unrest?

Naw. He's not white, so it doesn't check the box for the segment of the population that looks for a reason to claim [systemic] racism. They would wholly disregard the part of the testimony where it was placed on record by the defense that Rittenhouse acted in self defense.

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Naw. He's not white, so it doesn't check the box for the segment of the population that looks for a reason to claim [systemic] racism. They would wholly disregard the part of the testimony where it was placed on record by the defense that Rittenhouse acted in self defense.

I remember the outrage when it happened but I haven't been following the trial, I'm trying to focus on being retired.

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Naw. He's not white, so it doesn't check the box for the segment of the population that looks for a reason to claim [systemic] racism.

That carnival is taking place in Brunswick, GA right now. I have relatives who live there, reporting that the protesters are being bussed in every day.....

[UncleWede]

Listened in all morning/pm. He has repeatedly bounced the DA's attempts to trap him into saying he meant to kill those people, by saying they were chasing him or had hit/kicked/verbally threatened him.

Based solely on his own testimony, I would vote to acquit.

But I'm not on the jury, and missed the previous 6 days of testimony.

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

Listened in all morning/pm. He has repeatedly bounced the DA's attempts to trap him into saying he meant to kill those people, by saying they were chasing him or had hit/kicked/verbally threatened him.

Based solely on his own testimony, I would vote to acquit.

But I'm not on the jury, and missed the previous 6 days of testimony.

I've not been following the trial either, I should because it interests me. But if he sticks to his guns that he was in fear of his life etc.....

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by Murf993

I've not been following the trial either, I should because it interests me. But if he sticks to his guns that he was in fear of his life etc.....

I don't know the details in Wisconsin regarding self defense.

He did a lot of other stupid shit, as the judge has so eloquently espoused, and is quite the liar in public, but he didn't murder anyone.

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

I don't know the details in Wisconsin regarding self defense.

He did a lot of other stupid shit, as the judge has so eloquently espoused, and is quite the liar in public, but he didn't murder anyone.

Juries can be funny beasts.....put on the popcorn and have a pint and watch the show.

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by Murf993

Juries can be funny beasts.....put on the popcorn and have a pint and watch the show.

He doesn't even offer me rum -SMH

Fine, diabetic Margaret still appreciates my company

3 jigs Patron
1 jig Grand Marnier
Liberal shakes of bitter
Shaken over ice and strained into clay pot

[Sedan_Clan]

Tonight somebody wanted my attention, but became irate when I gave it to them……undivided.


I had just finished assisting a partner with a traffic collision when a male Hispanic adult driving a silver Nissan Altima pulled up and started motherfucking us, intent on inciting a response. The driver was playing his music loudly, so I waited for him to drive about 50' away so I could initiate a traffic stop using 27007 CVC as my probable cause. Additionally, his registration was a month expired. I know what you're thinking, "But Sedan, those are such petty violations. Why even waste your time?!!" I don't disagree, but this particular individual went out of his way to attract my/our attention, so when these types need a little LEO love, I oblige them…..happily.

Anyway, I initiated the traffic stop and the driver immediately began acting like the asshat I expected him to be. He was recording our interaction using his cell phone (…but he was smart enough not to have it in his hand while it was pointed in my direction, and instead leaned it up against the gear shifter; a true "film law enforcement on a traffic stop" professional). During the interaction he played the victim, called me a bully/thug, lamented about the defund movement and how he has donated tens of thousands to cops. The distinction, he clarified, was he loved cops, but hates Deputies. Oh!…and he mentioned - at least a dozen times - that he was the principal at a local elementary school and he was going to call the mayor. He also threatened to post our interaction online, which I welcomed him to do. He brought up officer/deputy salaries multiple times and complained about crime and drug use within the city limits. Not once did he acknowledge the facts my partner relayed to him about the D.A.'s position on crime and choosing not to file charges on those arrested for the very issues he complained about. He would rather assign blame on law enforcement rather than addressing it with those who are at fault for rising crime rates and no accountability for criminals perpetrating the crimes. He had a major chip on his shoulder, and he thought name dropping and loose threats were going to give him leverage. Once he knew that his words had no effect on me, he requested the presence of a Sergeant. Forty wasted minutes later he finally left the scene, citation in hand and vowing to see me in court. I cannot wait to show the judge my body worn camera footage. He's going to lose. They always do when they behave in the manner he exhibited.

Off for three days now. Yay!

[F30lolz]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Tonight somebody wanted my attention, but became irate when I gave it to them……undivided.


I had just finished assisting a partner with a traffic collision when a male Hispanic adult driving a silver Nissan Altima pulled up and started motherfucking us, intent on inciting a response. The driver was playing his music loudly, so I waited for him to drive about 50' away so I could initiate a traffic stop using 27007 CVC as my probable cause. Additionally, his registration was a month expired. I know what you're thinking, "But Sedan, those are such petty violations. Why even waste your time?!!" I don't disagree, but this particular individual went out of his way to attract my/our attention, so when these types need a little LEO love, I oblige them…..happily.

Anyway, I initiated the traffic stop and the driver immediately began acting like the asshat I expected him to be. He was recording our interaction using his cell phone (…but he was smart enough not to have it in his hand while it was pointed in my direction, and instead leaned it up against the gear shifter; a true "film law enforcement on a traffic stop" professional). During the interaction he played the victim, called me a bully/thug, lamented about the defund movement and how he has donated tens of thousands to cops. The distinction, he clarified, was he loved cops, but hates Deputies. Oh!…and he mentioned - at least a dozen times - that he was the principal at a local elementary school and he was going to call the mayor. He also threatened to post our interaction online, which I welcomed him to do. He brought up officer/deputy salaries multiple times and complained about crime and drug use within the city limits. Not once did he acknowledge the facts my partner relayed to him about the D.A.'s position on crime and choosing not to file charges on those arrested for the very issues he complained about. He would rather assign blame on law enforcement rather than addressing it with those who are at fault for rising crime rates and no accountability for criminals perpetrating the crimes. He had a major chip on his shoulder, and he thought name dropping and loose threats were going to give him leverage. Once he knew that his words had no effect on me, he requested the presence of a Sergeant. Forty wasted minutes later he finally left the scene, citation in hand and vowing to see me in court. I cannot wait to show the judge my body worn camera footage. He's going to lose. They always do when they behave in the manner he exhibited.

Off for three days now. Yay!

Why people want to attract attention when they have something expired (license/insurance/reg) is beyond the Darwin Award. ‘Lettuce’ know how court goes, very eager!

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I cannot wait to show the judge my body worn camera footage. He's going to lose. They always do when they behave in the manner he exhibited.

Can someone from the east coast FOIA that footage for their own personal amusement?????