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      10-17-2017, 07:57 AM   #1
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any regrets not ordering this option? those that have it, would you order it again?
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      10-17-2017, 09:34 AM   #2
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any regrets not ordering this option? those that have it, would you order it again?
I haven't had a chance yet to compare how the car feels in Comfort vs Sport on a twisty road I know, so will report back once I do and can provide more details. On the highway, though, I didn't notice much difference between Sport and Comfort.

I will say that I think I will enjoy the IAS part of the DHP, though. It definitely helps the car feel smaller in tight spaces. The only oddity I've noticed is decelerating in a turn - think a cloverleaf exit off of a highway. IAS turns the rear wheels in somewhere around 40mph. So, once you cross that threshold and the rear wheels turn in it almost feels like you're starting to oversteer, even if you're nowhere near handling limits. It's really subtle, but the first 2 or 3 times can be a little weird. That will probably just take a little getting used to.

So far, though, no issues with having ordered DHP.
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Update?
Thanks for the reminder, but not yet. My PCD date is next Thursday. If you don't see an update from me by the 3rd, feel free to ping me again.
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I went ahead and ordered it without test driving it. Call me crazy! I'll check back in come January.
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I did not order, and I should take delivery by 12/12. If the reviews were glowing, I would need to do a brand new order...
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      11-23-2017, 08:20 AM   #7
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Everyone on this forum tries to suggest that the DHC ride is soft. But DHC is standard on the M: cars.
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      11-23-2017, 01:07 PM   #8
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Everyone on this forum tries to suggest that the DHC ride is soft. But DHC is standard on the M: cars.
This is misleading. The M cars do use DHP, but they have stiffer springs than the non M cars.

The problem on the 530 and 540 when you spec DHP is that you lose the stiffer springs from the 704 m-sport suspension. So on DHP you're getting softer springs then the dampers stiffen up to compensate for that when you put the car in sport mode, but it still isn't to the same level as the 704 m-sport suspension, which is really the perfect balance of performance and comfort.

On the M cars and the M550, selecting DHP does not eliminate the stiffer springs like it does in the other models
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any regrets not ordering this option? those that have it, would you order it again?
I have a 2018 540 xdrive msport with dhp and don't have any regrets. Previously, I had a 2015 535 xdrive msport with dhp and loved the handling. Also, I took off the runflats and replaced them with Pirelli PZero All Season Plus 19' tires which improved the ride immensely.

Albeit, dhp is an expensive option but in my opinion the 704 suspension is too harsh for the terrible city roads I drive every day. On the freeway or on mountain roads I switch to sport or sport plus and it tightens everything up. Around town I use either sport individual, adaptive or comfort because I don't need to feel every single bump or pothole.

Not to mention, the dhp option allows the car to corner completely flat without any body roll unlike the other suspension options. If the roads were better and consistent here I might have considered saving the $ and going with the 704 but frankly I think a $70k+ car should have an adaptive suspension.

I'm my opinion the main issue is the electronic steering, it's way too light especially at low speeds. BMW should tighten it up with software updates.
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For me, DHP+new tires gets to be too much money... It's a bit like the B&W sound system where I know I would enjoy it, but I don't want to spend so much extra money for it. It's a slippery slope, and there's only so much I want to spend on cars... You know how it goes - the M5 or E63S are even nicer, so why not get that, or the Panamera is nicer, etc. I set a limit at $80K, so that I don't slide down the slippery slope...
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For me, DHP+new tires gets to be too much money... It's a bit like the B&W sound system where I know I would enjoy it, but I don't want to spend so much extra money for it. It's a slippery slope, and there's only so much I want to spend on cars... You know how it goes - the M5 or E63S are even nicer, so why not get that, or the Panamera is nicer, etc. I set a limit at $80K, so that I don't slide down the slippery slope...
I think there's a significant difference between a low $70k and a $100k+ automobile... a few grand for an adaptive suspension and $1k for upgraded tires doesn't translate to a Panamera cost wise...
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The problem on the 530 and 540 when you spec DHP is that you lose the stiffer springs from the 704 m-sport suspension. So on DHP you're getting softer springs then the dampers stiffen up to compensate for that when you put the car in sport mode, but it still isn't to the same level as the 704 m-sport suspension, which is really the perfect balance of performance and comfort.
Is losing stiffer springs a bad thing? Depends what compromises you are willing to make. There are benefits to softer springs (particularly on bad roads), even when pressing on. Active roll control can be an advantage over fixed roll bars. Less roll without the negatives of stiff passive bars.
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Is losing stiffer springs a bad thing? Depends what compromises you are willing to make. There are benefits to softer springs (particularly on bad roads), even when pressing on. Active roll control can be an advantage over fixed roll bars. Less roll without the negatives of stiff passive bars.
Yes, it is. I find DDC way too soft a suspension. The cars with DDC tend to roll horribly and donít corner as well as the M Sport suspension variant cars. I find the DDC is a good option for people who want a luxury sedan, and the 704 is a better choice for those who want a sports sedan. DHP is a bit pricey, but 8 hear it fixes the body roll and mediocre handling of the DDC.
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Yes, it is. I find DDC way too soft a suspension. The cars with DDC tend to roll horribly and donít corner as well as the M Sport suspension variant cars. I find the DDC is a good option for people who want a luxury sedan, and the 704 is a better choice for those who want a sports sedan. DHP is a bit pricey, but 8 hear it fixes the body roll and mediocre handling of the DDC.
Correct, but the M550i also has the 704 suspension along with DDC. Best of both worlds for a daily driver.
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Yes, it is. I find DDC way too soft a suspension. The cars with DDC tend to roll horribly and donít corner as well as the M Sport suspension variant cars. I find the DDC is a good option for people who want a luxury sedan, and the 704 is a better choice for those who want a sports sedan. DHP is a bit pricey, but 8 hear it fixes the body roll and mediocre handling of the DDC.
Correct, but the M550i also has the 704 suspension along with DDC. Best of both worlds for a daily driver.
The M550 is also a few hundred lbs heavier and needs stiffer springs to compensate for the weight...
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Yes, it is. I find DDC way too soft a suspension. The cars with DDC tend to roll horribly and donít corner as well as the M Sport suspension variant cars. I find the DDC is a good option for people who want a luxury sedan, and the 704 is a better choice for those who want a sports sedan. DHP is a bit pricey, but 8 hear it fixes the body roll and mediocre handling of the DDC.
Aren't we talking about DHP? For many that will be the best compromise if we want a wide range of 'comfort to handling', even though most users don't have it.

For me, although 704 is a better passive suspension than standard (or just DDC), it can't be softened for poor roads. That is it's negative, particularly as I carry passengers.
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The M550 is also a few hundred lbs heavier and needs stiffer springs to compensate for the weight...
They didn’t think about this in the heavier F10 but they did it for the Gran Coupe, where you could get the 704 suspension with the DHP. So, it really didn’t need stiffer springs.
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The M550 is also a few hundred lbs heavier and needs stiffer springs to compensate for the weight...
They didn’t think about this in the heavier F10 but they did it for the Gran Coupe, where you could get the 704 suspension with the DHP. So, it really didn’t need stiffer springs.
Surprisingly the 640 gran coupe is also a few hundred lbs heavier than the 540... 4330 vs 4019 in the xdrive model. It's also considerably more experience than the 5. Although, I agree the 704 with dhp should be an option on the 540. BMW screws around too much with their ordering guidelines and should have more flexibility especially for custom orders.
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I've had BMWs with and with our Dynamic Handling. You can always notice the difference at higher speeds around bends. Once you have it you won't regret it, the driving dynamics is probably one of the biggest reasons people buy a BMW. I will never order a BMW without it again.
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Makes a noticeable difference at every speed but especially at highway speeds and on the twisties. Highly recommended. Had it in my F10. Drove the G30 (540, 550) with and without. Couldn't imagine buying it without (would have probably gone with the E43 if it wasn't an option, TBH). Also got to compare M550i with and without. The difference was even greater on the 550i relative to the 540i, which came as a surprise since I thought the 550 was supposed to be set up to be sportier. The extra weight really makes itself known without DHP. I found the 540i w/ DHP to be the sweet spot for handling, but YMMV.
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Considering DHP as well for an M550xi

I'm wondering if it a question of DHP improving Ride Quality/Handling from a 7 to a 10?
or is the improvement more like a 3 without DHP and a 10 with DHP?
Where on the scale 1 is crappy and 10 is really good.

Trying to justify the price since it is currently a $3600* add on!

*My first BMW purchase, a second-hand 1995 318i, was a little over that price. And that 318i had the best handling and ride quality I've ever experienced in a BMW and I've owned quite a few since then

When you read the definition of what DHP does you would think DHP would already be included in the standard built of any 5 series!

Rather the two main characteristics OF a sports sedan, handling and ride quality, seem to be packaged as an exotic option....on a BMW sports sedan?!


Am I crazy!!!?

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Here is the description:

EDIT: Wow - just noticed that the description is the same for both features... I don't know how the company that manages the BMW configurator Website has not been fired yet. If they are doing it with internal IT, then I understand and maybe they need to call my company...

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Im so confused, why is DHP $1,600 less on a 530xi + it includes M breaks
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