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      02-06-2019, 12:11 PM   #1
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Another Lease Payment Question - M550

I currently have a 2016 M3 with 4 payments left on it. Went and drove the M550 and I'm hooked. The below is with them taking my M3 back now.

Here's the scoop...

MSRP on the car is $89k. Car has a little over 300 miles on it since it was being driven by the GM.

Options are as follows:
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Dealer is discounting the car $10,755.

If I transfer the MSDs from my M3 and put down one more, I'll have $7,350 in MSDs down on the M550.

$4,000 out of pocket (including all inceptions, first month, etc).

MF is .00228

Residual 62%

Lease term is 36 months, 10k miles/year

Total monthly payment incl. tax is $1,006.00.

Thoughts?
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      02-06-2019, 06:15 PM   #2
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why is your MF .00228 (5.47%)?

not only is that marked up from the BMW buy rate, .00188(4.512%), you have 7 MSD's that need to bring the buy rate down to .00153(3.672%) (.00005 PER MSD)

you should also get $1k loyalty and the $1500 lease cash they are offering for the M550i - was this already in account in the discount?

since the car has over 300 miles, I would take the discount they are offering + the $2500 in credits and have the MF fixed then you should have a much nicer payment.
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How did you get 62% RV?

Last I saw it was 60% for 2019’s 36/10k
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      02-06-2019, 07:30 PM   #4
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I currently have a 2016 M3 with 4 payments left on it. Went and drove the M550 and I'm hooked. The below is with them taking my M3 back now.

Here's the scoop...

MSRP on the car is $89k. Car has a little over 300 miles on it since it was being driven by the GM.

Options are as follows:
20" 668M Wheels
Premium 2
Parking Assist
Driving Assist
Executive Package
Nappa Leather
Heated Front Seats
Carbon Mirror Caps
Carbon Spoiler
Black Front Grill
Ceramic Controls

Dealer is discounting the car $10,755.

If I transfer the MSDs from my M3 and put down one more, I'll have $7,350 in MSDs down on the M550.

$4,000 out of pocket (including all inceptions, first month, etc).

MF is .00228

Residual 62%

Lease term is 36 months, 10k miles/year

Total monthly payment incl. tax is $1,006.00.

Thoughts?
Not sure if that helps. Here's my situation. I have a 2018 M2. 30 payments left. And I have 2016 528 with 8 payments left. Dealer is taking the m2 and and the 5x yo get the m500 at 79,659. Monthly will be $1200 including taxes and 8k down including the first payment. So I think you can do better
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      02-06-2019, 09:22 PM   #5
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I currently have a 2016 M3 with 4 payments left on it. Went and drove the M550 and I'm hooked. The below is with them taking my M3 back now.

Here's the scoop...

MSRP on the car is $89k. Car has a little over 300 miles on it since it was being driven by the GM

Thoughts?
You still have 4 months left. Order the car with the oprions you want. Hell you can even do european delivery. Remember in July this car gets new engine 523 hp

You can easily extend your lease and get the car in september 2020 model

Always better to do 0 dollars down lease with no msds. Invest the money instead. Its a rental.
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      02-06-2019, 09:31 PM   #6
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Update: reducing MSDs to $5,950.00, same out of pocket, payment is $990.00 all in. That’s their bottom line.

I’m not doing euro delivery; not an option for me, nor am I extending the lease.

I understand the economics of putting money down on a lease. In this case it’s approx $3k down since the total out of pocket ($4k) is including the first payment. I can live with $3k down on the car.
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Its a better deal but still not perfect They need tomove this car since it has miles. You have the upper hand here

With Msds you are still tiying 10 k where you can have 0 down

Insist on o.oo188 money factor without msd

Plugging it into leasehacker im getting 913 before tax
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your money factor is incorrect - there is zero reason why they should mark it up.

MSD is another question, but you need to start with the .00188 baseline.
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your money factor is incorrect - there is zero reason why they should mark it up.

MSD is another question, but you need to start with the .00188 baseline.
So he's telling me the MF is .00188; they marked it up to to .00228. He's claiming with such a big discount on the car, they have to mark up the MF to make a profit.

With the MSDs (deciding to do 6, not 7), the MF comes down to .00158.

I guess I could do 7 MSDs and reduce the out of pocket cash as well.
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You are getting close. Dont get discouraged. Getting a 90 k cak for 9 hundreds lease is good. Just play with it a bit more. They are not giving you promised discount Remember every 1000 off is 30 dollars off lease. By marking msds they are increasing payment by 60 bucks or stealing 2 k from your promised discount. By not giving you rebates After discount. They are robbing you of another 3500 so now the discount is 5 k down from 10 promised. You are putting 4 k down. So now you are buying a used car for list price

Here is the programming assuming its 19

15k miles / 57% residual
12k miles / 59% residual
10k miles / 60% residual

$1500 lease credit (540, M550)
$2000 loyalty credit (lease / APR)

Insist on promised discount and 3500 on top of that. Give them 60 bucks in money factor and do not put any msds. Youd be at. Low 900 with tax. (I am at 938 with 6 percent ma tax. Leasehacker.com)
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Also there should be corporate fleet discount depending on where you work. On x5 its $3250. Should be the same on 5


http://www.bmwgroupcorporatefleet.com/
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Also there should be corporate fleet discount depending on where you work. On x5 its $3250. Should be the same on 5


http://www.bmwgroupcorporatefleet.com/
No applicability here.
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How long was your test drive?
M550i is a great everyday car but it will be different than your F80.

M550i with sport plus engaged will shoot from 0-xx like a bat out of hell but will fall off toward top end of RPM, where M3 has just begun to sing. I am comparing to ESS tuned F80 btw.

Though, It is hard for me to pick between M550i and M3 and I ended up driving M550 (8/10 times). That being said, M550 wins for everyday use.
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How long was your test drive?
M550i is a great everyday car but it will be different than your F80.

M550i with sport plus engaged will shoot from 0-xx like a bat out of hell but will fall off toward top end of RPM, where M3 has just begun to sing. I am comparing to ESS tuned F80 btw.

Though, It is hard for me to pick between M550i and M3 and I ended up driving M550 (8/10 times). That being said, M550 wins for everyday use.
Test drive was about 25 min. Totally different vehicles, but I was looking for something different than the M3. The level of luxury is incomparable between the two. Obviously the driving experience is vastly different as well. Both great cars, both very different, and both animals in their own right!
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