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      08-25-2019, 02:18 AM   #1
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M550i lease up soon.....not sure what to switch to at this point?

My lease is up in March.......there just isn't much out that compares right now.

The M550i is so much faster than any of the cars I have been looking at.

The new A7 is slow. The 2020 S7 is only going to be 0-60 in like 4.4.....that just isn't fast.

The E43 AMG's are slow.....the CLS53's are slow.....and both lease for more than the M550.

The new M5 just isn't worth the extra $30k over the M550. It just isn't....especially with the new engine going in the M550 this year.

Jag sucks. Maserati has tech that I had in my Benz SL's from 2003......

What are people looking at?

I get sick of cars so I'm not sure I want to get into another M550.....I guess I'd have to see the LCI design to decide for sure but I don't see myself doing it. This just goes to show what a great bargain the M550I is....I'm just surprised the other car makers have ceded this segment to BMW.

I still have that speed bug otherwise I'd probably just get a LCI 750i.....
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If I was looking to upgrade my current drive (2019 M550i) today, I'd be looking at AMG E63s, or perhaps M850i as my 2nd choice.
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The 550 is a beast of a sports sedan with the most usable advanced tech in its segment. Anything other than getting the same vehicle
In its new version is a step down in performance and tech.

The benzes are no slouch but I far prefer the BMW formula. That’s a personal choice.

I drive a 540ix m sport. I passed on the 550 because it’s my DD and I wanted the extra fuel efficiently and lower lease payment. I can easily drive 20k per year. However After going to the m track day I’m longing for an M5 or comp version.

If you can swing the $. And you have the speed bug you won’t be unhappy. I was amazed at how well a 4500 lb car could get up and go as well as handle the twists and turns.

Right now I’d say those are the Alfa BMW’s.

Since you mention the 750 I am assuming you want a 4 door and the 850 is out ?

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My lease is up in March.......there just isn't much out that compares right now.

The M550i is so much faster than any of the cars I have been looking at.

The new A7 is slow. The 2020 S7 is only going to be 0-60 in like 4.4.....that just isn't fast.

The E43 AMG's are slow.....the CLS53's are slow.....and both lease for more than the M550.

The new M5 just isn't worth the extra $30k over the M550. It just isn't....especially with the new engine going in the M550 this year.

Jag sucks. Maserati has tech that I had in my Benz SL's from 2003......

What are people looking at?

I get sick of cars so I'm not sure I want to get into another M550.....I guess I'd have to see the LCI design to decide for sure but I don't see myself doing it. This just goes to show what a great bargain the M550I is....I'm just surprised the other car makers have ceded this segment to BMW.

I still have that speed bug otherwise I'd probably just get a LCI 750i.....
If you're interested in an Audi I'd think the new/upcoming S6 would be a closer match to the M550i. I looked at the RS5 and M550i and would have looked at the S6 before I decided on the M5.
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My lease is up in March.......there just isn't much out that compares right now.

The M550i is so much faster than any of the cars I have been looking at.

The new A7 is slow. The 2020 S7 is only going to be 0-60 in like 4.4.....that just isn't fast.

The E43 AMG's are slow.....the CLS53's are slow.....and both lease for more than the M550.

The new M5 just isn't worth the extra $30k over the M550. It just isn't....especially with the new engine going in the M550 this year.

Jag sucks. Maserati has tech that I had in my Benz SL's from 2003......

What are people looking at?

I get sick of cars so I'm not sure I want to get into another M550.....I guess I'd have to see the LCI design to decide for sure but I don't see myself doing it. This just goes to show what a great bargain the M550I is....I'm just surprised the other car makers have ceded this segment to BMW.

I still have that speed bug otherwise I'd probably just get a LCI 750i.....
If you're interested in an Audi I'd think the new/upcoming S6 would be a closer match to the M550i. I looked at the RS5 and M550i and would have looked at the S6 before I decided on the M5.
I have an '16 S6. It's 0-60 is 4.0 flat. It's an amazingly fast car. That being said I hate the new interiors so I'm going to m550 as soon as there are some lease incentives (other than loyalty).
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No offense, but anything in the low 4's I wouldn't call "slow." Let's be honest, in our everyday lives we rarely are going to be doing sprints from 0-60 at stop light to stop light, and even still I consider anything under 5 seconds to be fast. If you care about 0-60 you might as well try out a tesla
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No offense, but anything in the low 4's I wouldn't call "slow." Let's be honest, in our everyday lives we rarely are going to be doing sprints from 0-60 at stop light to stop light, and even still I consider anything under 5 seconds to be fast. If you care about 0-60 you might as well try out a tesla
Good point. If acceleration is the overriding top priority get a Model 3 or S Performance model and rest easy knowing that there's not much out there that can top you. You might have to be able to get past some obvious things with a Tesla though.
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My lease is up in March.......there just isn't much out that compares right now.

The M550i is so much faster than any of the cars I have been looking at.

The new A7 is slow. The 2020 S7 is only going to be 0-60 in like 4.4.....that just isn't fast.

The E43 AMG's are slow.....the CLS53's are slow.....and both lease for more than the M550.

The new M5 just isn't worth the extra $30k over the M550. It just isn't....especially with the new engine going in the M550 this year.

Jag sucks. Maserati has tech that I had in my Benz SL's from 2003......

What are people looking at?

I get sick of cars so I'm not sure I want to get into another M550.....I guess I'd have to see the LCI design to decide for sure but I don't see myself doing it. This just goes to show what a great bargain the M550I is....I'm just surprised the other car makers have ceded this segment to BMW.

I still have that speed bug otherwise I'd probably just get a LCI 750i.....
LCI M760i otherwise keep the M550i. Seems
That you really like it but you don't want to admit that to yourself.
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No offense, but anything in the low 4's I wouldn't call "slow." Let's be honest, in our everyday lives we rarely are going to be doing sprints from 0-60 at stop light to stop light, and even still I consider anything under 5 seconds to be fast. If you care about 0-60 you might as well try out a tesla
Good point. If acceleration is the overriding top priority get a Model 3 or S Performance model and rest easy knowing that there's not much out there that can top you. You might have to be able to get past some obvious things with a Tesla though.
Tesla build quality and service lack support should give any one pause. And the interiors suck major balls for the price.
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No offense, but anything in the low 4's I wouldn't call "slow." Let's be honest, in our everyday lives we rarely are going to be doing sprints from 0-60 at stop light to stop light, and even still I consider anything under 5 seconds to be fast. If you care about 0-60 you might as well try out a tesla
Good point. If acceleration is the overriding top priority get a Model 3 or S Performance model and rest easy knowing that there's not much out there that can top you. You might have to be able to get past some obvious things with a Tesla though.
Tesla build quality and service lack support should give any one pause. And the interiors suck major balls for the price.
Tesla owners have difficulty getting parts for repairs, collision parts have become a nightmare and insurance rates are going up due to parts shortages. Tesla has problems to fix.
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Tesla's interior are plasticy and just not good. Get the new 530hp 550, or use swapalease to toy around with short term leases. I've been missing the sporty ness of the M5's and may grab a lease from swapalease on the f90 M5
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No offense, but anything in the low 4's I wouldn't call "slow." Let's be honest, in our everyday lives we rarely are going to be doing sprints from 0-60 at stop light to stop light, and even still I consider anything under 5 seconds to be fast. If you care about 0-60 you might as well try out a tesla
I do 0-60 sprints off traffic lights at all the time. Wouldn't mind a few more hp one bit (m850 motor seems about right, f90 m5 I haven't driven yet). I very much prefer the acceleration of the m550 to the Tesla as the Tesla is putting too much torque to the wheels and it gets squirrelly on hard acceleration, whereas the m550 feels extremely well planted. My wife likes her Tesla for her daily commute, but I agree with others that the interior fit/finish isn't great.
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Take a look at the Porsche Macan Turbo performance package. It handles like a vintage German car and it’s fast. I have the same dilemma and I rented one on Turo last week. I was very impressed with it but there’s nothing like the power delivery of the M550 v8.
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No offense, but anything in the low 4's I wouldn't call "slow." Let's be honest, in our everyday lives we rarely are going to be doing sprints from 0-60 at stop light to stop light, and even still I consider anything under 5 seconds to be fast. If you care about 0-60 you might as well try out a tesla
I do 0-60 sprints off traffic lights at all the time. Wouldn't mind a few more hp one bit (m850 motor seems about right, f90 m5 I haven't driven yet). I very much prefer the acceleration of the m550 to the Tesla as the Tesla is putting too much torque to the wheels and it gets squirrelly on hard acceleration, whereas the m550 feels extremely well planted. My wife likes her Tesla for her daily commute, but I agree with others that the interior fit/finish isn't great.
Tesla doesn't do it for me.....too dime a dozen.
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No offense, but anything in the low 4's I wouldn't call "slow." Let's be honest, in our everyday lives we rarely are going to be doing sprints from 0-60 at stop light to stop light, and even still I consider anything under 5 seconds to be fast. If you care about 0-60 you might as well try out a tesla
That is correct.....but it would be a step down compared to what I've been driving.

The thing is, these cars are more money......like the S7 and E43/CLS53....which is fine.....but not when they are giving you a fraction of the power the M550 is. There is absolutely nothing about those cars that warrants a higher price versus the 550-especially when they fail miserably in the segment they are aimed at (performance). I just don't get an AMG model going 0-60 in 4.4 or something. My 2014 CLS550 4Matic was faster. If you are going to charge a higher price for the name (AMG), then put some power into it.
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No offense, but anything in the low 4's I wouldn't call "slow." Let's be honest, in our everyday lives we rarely are going to be doing sprints from 0-60 at stop light to stop light, and even still I consider anything under 5 seconds to be fast. If you care about 0-60 you might as well try out a tesla
That is correct.....but it would be a step down compared to what I've been driving.

The thing is, these cars are more money......like the S7 and E43/CLS53....which is fine.....but not when they are giving you a fraction of the power the M550 is. There is absolutely nothing about those cars that warrants a higher price versus the 550-especially when they fail miserably in the segment they are aimed at (performance). I just don't get an AMG model going 0-60 in 4.4 or something. My 2014 CLS550 4Matic was faster. If you are going to charge a higher price for the name (AMG), then put some power into it.
I mean, while I agree somewhat, you have to remember these aren't full fledged AMG models with hand-built engines. While the CLS/E53 aren't as fast as an M550, the driving dynamics are in my opinion much better, which I would willingly sacrifice speed for. The M550i in my experience just wasn't that good in the handling department.
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I have an '16 S6. It's 0-60 is 4.0 flat. It's an amazingly fast car. That being said I hate the new interiors so I'm going to m550 as soon as there are some lease incentives (other than loyalty).
The new S6 should be faster yet, though I've not seen info on how much. You mean the new S6 interior? You've seen one? I thought they were not 'out' yet? It's not the same interior as the A6, right? I think Audi upgrades the interiors when you step up to the S series. Now, if you mean, ergonomically, that I assume would be the same.
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I have an '16 S6. It's 0-60 is 4.0 flat. It's an amazingly fast car. That being said I hate the new interiors so I'm going to m550 as soon as there are some lease incentives (other than loyalty).
The new S6 should be faster yet, though I've not seen info on how much. You mean the new S6 interior? You've seen one? I thought they were not 'out' yet? It's not the same interior as the A6, right? I think Audi upgrades the interiors when you step up to the S series. Now, if you mean, ergonomically, that I assume would be the same.
Yes I am referring to the ergonomics. Not for me.
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If not the Macan (I'm not an SUV guy) how about the Panamara? The S is no slouch, and the turbo is just nuts. Looks are polarizing, but I had one once and it is a fantastic driving car.
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Looking at your sig, the next natural step for you in the F90 M5. If I'm in your shoes, I'd just get the 2020 M550 with a tune. I know tunes aren't for everyone but it certainly will fill that need for (more) speed.
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