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BMW just get on with it already and make a proper true X3M & X4M that looks bad ass!
The competition is passing you bye in this segment, time to get your game face on. |
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I actually have an M3 and M5 plus a Macan turbo to compare.but at zero to 60 of 4.6 secs, that's almost F10 M5 performance. unless your are tracking it, for everyday use you will leave 90% of cars on public roads in the dust with the M40i more than adequate for me, I am no M boy fanatic this is good enough.
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09-06-2017, 03:43 PM | #28 |
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Like someone else said it's not a direct competitor to Macan Turbo plus the BMW is $15-25k less depending on options.
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My local Porsche dealer has three Macan GTS, two are $85k and one is $105k. Performance wise this will hang with them, have all of the luxury fully loaded at $67k. Probably not a completely fair comparison since you can customize the Porsche to the gills, but it's just going to be more expensive overall for a similar package. The Macan Turbo will perform a bit better but the difference will be closer to $40-60k. That's where the X3M is targeted, but it's at least a year away. |
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09-07-2017, 04:42 PM | #31 |
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I remain puzzled how one considers the Macan in the same category as the X3, but suspect it is those who are looking more for the idea of a(n) SUV/SAV but who don't really need the load-carrying capacity as many of us require. No doubt the Macan is a great ride, but it cannot haul what I need to carry, so it has never been on our radar. The big brother of it is too large (just as we wouldn't consider the X5). All comes down to what the vehicle offers the buyer, and for us, the X3 is the sweet spot.
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I get that you want the X3M, but keep in mind that BMW is a company who's goal is, as it should be, to make a profit. To start with a product that will sell in extremely low volume makes no sense from a business perspective. The X3M40i is more than enough performance for almost everybody. 4.6 seconds 0-60 for a SUV is stunning. I've had two m-sport cars because I like the look and suspension and I don't care about power I will never use. The X3M will come out in due time, and in the right order of priority if sales an profit are the objective and not simply pleasing forum members. The G01 looks like an amazing platform. It will sell like crazy. |
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09-08-2017, 05:16 PM | #33 |
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Ahh, but it appears the point is being missed here. She is a member of a production team which provides online video reviews of vehicles across the manufacturing spectrum. One would not expect her to be reacting as one would on a roller-coaster ride - that would show lack of objectivity making future reviews of other Mnfr's offerings tainted by subjectivity.
What struck me about this video, and I shall grant you this is a personal reaction and may not apply to all watching such, was that I honestly started smiling at that mark in the video which I think was a gut reaction to how the sounds, speed, manueverability and all came together. Simply, 'Freude'. I suspect she must have felt a similar joy at the time, but I could be wrong as her smiling could have meant something else altogether. But like many cultural variances with translation, it is difficult to capture the essence of what is meant in a slogan when literally translating. But I felt it. |
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BMW has been using the m logo on Non-true M cars for many years. It looks like you just bought your amazing M3 last September. You may be tired of BMW using the m logo on m-sport cars, but it didn't seem to stop you from buying your awesome M3. I really don't understand this brand dilution thing at all. I understand that you are upset by it, I just can't figure out why it matters. You know what you've got. Everybody that knows BMW's knows the difference. Those that don't know the difference, don't know the difference anyway (profound, I know). |
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Track Performance vs tire size/choice - significant?
We decided to go with the standard 19" performance offering as ride comfort is a compromise for the family, but having never owned 21" tires I was wondering how much difference they make in practice? Appearance is certainly more aggressive and may improve the aesthetic, but will the same vehicle perform noticeably different in this setting with the 19" vs 20" vs 21"? Not that I'll be competing on the track, but wondering if this translates to Interstate handling as well?
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https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...d-tires-tested Arrrrg..... Make a thread Max!
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That is a very interesting, article, Kozzi - many thanks for sharing! Although performed on a different vehicle, it appears they set out to test the very question I was asking.
I think I recall from the AutoGefuhl video that these Phytonic Blue editions used at the Press Introduction in June had 21" tires, so I was wondering if the great-appearing performance in this Autophorie track run was related to that, or just the vehicle and driver skill. One would probably have to do similar studies on our X3 M40i models with the 19-21" sizes to know for sure, but I've been thinking since BMW chose the 19" performance tire as the standard for the US, that maybe was the sweet spot for performance and fuel economy in their testing? |
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I bought the 20 inch because if I want to change tires down the road there are far more options available than there are with 21. I prefer agility to a softer ride, but who knows?
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