BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BMW 5-Series (G30) Forum 2017+ BMW 5 Series (G30) General Discussions G30 5 Series Sedan LCI Faceilft First Sighting

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-17-2019, 09:24 PM   #89
Old Boy
Oberstabsgefreiter
Old Boy's Avatar
Canada
96
Rep
152
Posts

Drives: 2019 M550i xdrive
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: toronto

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fsarc View Post
Can't wait to get my 540xi on Friday and out of my Q50 RS. Talk about a dated interior and tech. 👎🏻
I hear ya, but when you part ways with your Q50 RS, you might miss those excellent Akebono brakes, not to mention the nimble and willing 400 HP engine, and a lower weight of the car compared to any G30 model.

I really liked my Q50 RS, including the engine sound pouring out of the (aftermarket) Fast Intentions cat-back free flowing exhaust, and if it was not for the M550 power/drivetrain, I would have still owned the Red Sport.
Appreciate 0
      07-18-2019, 02:20 PM   #90
Bmw52509
Registered
Bmw52509's Avatar
Egypt
0
Rep
1
Posts

Drives: E60 525i
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Egypt

iTrader: (0)

Hope the tail lights take the same design of the new 3 and 7 series ( grey x red )
Appreciate 0
      07-18-2019, 08:47 PM   #91
ArchieV
Private
ArchieV's Avatar
United_States
26
Rep
65
Posts

Drives: 2014 Ford Escape
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bmw52509 View Post
Hope the tail lights take the same design of the new 3 and 7 series ( grey x red )
Yeah that would be a good look, a neighbor just picked up a new 3 and it gives it a really distinctive different look.
__________________
Archie
Appreciate 0
      07-18-2019, 11:09 PM   #92
modthispny
First Lieutenant
132
Rep
346
Posts

Drives: 2019 BMW M550i
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Studio City, CA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Boy View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fsarc View Post
Can't wait to get my 540xi on Friday and out of my Q50 RS. Talk about a dated interior and tech. 👎🏻
I hear ya, but when you part ways with your Q50 RS, you might miss those excellent Akebono brakes, not to mention the nimble and willing 400 HP engine, and a lower weight of the car compared to any G30 model.

I really liked my Q50 RS, including the engine sound pouring out of the (aftermarket) Fast Intentions cat-back free flowing exhaust, and if it was not for the M550 power/drivetrain, I would have still owned the Red Sport.
I had a Q50 RS prior to my M550i as well. Great car, quick and nimble. Stock vs stock though M550i is definitely faster and has more usable power. 1st was worthless for the Q50.
Appreciate 0
      07-19-2019, 12:09 AM   #93
buckybadger
BMW forever!
buckybadger's Avatar
444
Rep
1,267
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Diego, CA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 530iDriver View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by buckybadger View Post
What about the interior?

The current 5 series interior is dated.
Dated? Compared to what?
Compared to X5 and competition
Didn't you know?
__________________
2020 BMW X5 xDrive40i
2019 BMW M2 Competition
2014 BMW 335i
2009 BMW 328i
Appreciate 0
      07-19-2019, 08:33 PM   #94
enigma01
Fight On!
enigma01's Avatar
United_States
102
Rep
325
Posts

Drives: e92 M3; g30 530e
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Rancho Santa Fe

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 530iDriver View Post
It responds to what the market wants not to what Bimmerpost members demand.
Apparently, it does. Unfortunately, it also means alienating some of the most loyal customer base on bimmerpost, like myself on my 9th back-to-back BMW spanning 20 years.

I am sure their market research team is doing a bang-up job expanding market share, but what's customer loyalty worth to them? Apparently, not much; if they can get two new customers for each long-time one they lose, they are OK with it.
Appreciate 0
      07-20-2019, 07:54 AM   #95
NasN55
Enlisted Member
3
Rep
36
Posts

Drives: E70 X5
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: CT

iTrader: (0)

This is worse than scrambled porn.
Appreciate 0
      07-20-2019, 08:08 AM   #96
jstein55
Brigadier General
jstein55's Avatar
United_States
6848
Rep
3,925
Posts

Drives: Mercedes-Benz/BMW
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Maryland

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by enigma01 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by 530iDriver View Post
It responds to what the market wants not to what Bimmerpost members demand.
Apparently, it does. Unfortunately, it also means alienating some of the most loyal customer base on bimmerpost, like myself on my 9th back-to-back BMW spanning 20 years.

I am sure their market research team is doing a bang-up job expanding market share, but what's customer loyalty worth to them? Apparently, not much; if they can get two new customers for each long-time one they lose, they are OK with it.
Have to agree, this is one of the reasons I don't have a BMW in my garage for the first time in over 20 years.

Another problem is the competition is closing the gap when it comes to handling/driving dynamics. Back in the 90's and early 2000's, the 3,5, and even 7 series were best handling in their class with no cars coming close except maybe the G35/7 but they had a large gap in how it drove in comparison to the rest of the class.

Now, while the BMWs still do have some sportiness, the class has caught up, and some cars have even surpassed BMW in the handling/driving dynamics such as Alfa, Jaguar, some Cadillacs and even some Mercedes.

I understand that BMW is chasing sales numbers, and I don't blame them, whatever their doing is working, as they surpassed Mercedes as the #1 luxury manufacturer this year so far, but in the process, they have lost me until they make a product that I find to be "The Ultimate Driving Machine"
__________________
Daily: 2019 Mercedes-Benz CLS 53 Weekend: 2008 BMW Z4 M Wife's: 2020 Mercedes-Benz GLC 300 Son's: 2005 BMW X3 3.0i
Retired:1995 E36 325i 5MT / 2004 E46 330i 6MT / 2011 E90 335xi / 2017 G30 540i / 2017 982 Boxster S 6MT / 2019 F87 M2C 6MT
Appreciate 1
enigma01101.50

      07-22-2019, 09:39 AM   #97
SleepingBMW
Lieutenant
United_States
301
Rep
479
Posts

Drives: 135i
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Midwest

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CP911 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleepingBMW View Post
Basically what I grew up with too.

Why don't you buy a 911 or Ferrari dad?

I don't want people to notice it.

Could have gotten one no issue.
That's fair if Pops thought of his vehicles as tools to get from point A to point B, but clearly he wasn't a discerning sports car enthusiast or driving enthusiast. The latter doesn't give a F what people think and will drive whatever he/she pleases for no other reason than it makes them happy to drive and own. But yeah, if you don't care about cars and have money, driving a black Benz is going to fly under the radar and draw less unwanted attention than say a yellow Ferrari would.

Also, I think the LCI is going to look awesome. From what I can tell, it looks like the grilles will be of similar shape and proportion to those found on the G20 3-series and not the 7er LCI.
In the private practice medical field it doesn't look great to show up in an extravagant vehicle.
Appreciate 2
clee1982691.00
CP911804.00

      07-22-2019, 11:04 AM   #98
wknddrivr
Lieutenant
United_States
373
Rep
508
Posts

Drives: E36 M3/E39 M5
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SleepingBMW View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by CP911 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleepingBMW View Post
Basically what I grew up with too.

Why don't you buy a 911 or Ferrari dad?

I don't want people to notice it.

Could have gotten one no issue.
That's fair if Pops thought of his vehicles as tools to get from point A to point B, but clearly he wasn't a discerning sports car enthusiast or driving enthusiast. The latter doesn't give a F what people think and will drive whatever he/she pleases for no other reason than it makes them happy to drive and own. But yeah, if you don't care about cars and have money, driving a black Benz is going to fly under the radar and draw less unwanted attention than say a yellow Ferrari would.

Also, I think the LCI is going to look awesome. From what I can tell, it looks like the grilles will be of similar shape and proportion to those found on the G20 3-series and not the 7er LCI.
In the private practice medical field it doesn't look great to show up in an extravagant vehicle.
Why? I couldn't care less what my doctor drives as long as they're a great doctor. If they drive a Ferrari or rolls Royce or something then I'm happy they're able to enjoy their success.
Appreciate 1
CP911804.00

      07-22-2019, 01:42 PM   #99
Old Boy
Oberstabsgefreiter
Old Boy's Avatar
Canada
96
Rep
152
Posts

Drives: 2019 M550i xdrive
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: toronto

iTrader: (0)

Bigger kidney grilles may look either more "aggressive" or more "opulent", depends on who is looking.

I do not care about either, I like body styling which is aesthetically pleasing, sober or conservative, if you will, and yet not devoid of the unique brand character. Take Alfa Romeo Giulia QF, a perfect example of styling excellence in my eyes.
Appreciate 2
530iDriver1565.00
georgere558.50

      07-22-2019, 02:04 PM   #100
SleepingBMW
Lieutenant
United_States
301
Rep
479
Posts

Drives: 135i
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Midwest

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ssquared View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleepingBMW View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by CP911 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleepingBMW View Post
Basically what I grew up with too.

Why don't you buy a 911 or Ferrari dad?

I don't want people to notice it.

Could have gotten one no issue.
That's fair if Pops thought of his vehicles as tools to get from point A to point B, but clearly he wasn't a discerning sports car enthusiast or driving enthusiast. The latter doesn't give a F what people think and will drive whatever he/she pleases for no other reason than it makes them happy to drive and own. But yeah, if you don't care about cars and have money, driving a black Benz is going to fly under the radar and draw less unwanted attention than say a yellow Ferrari would.

Also, I think the LCI is going to look awesome. From what I can tell, it looks like the grilles will be of similar shape and proportion to those found on the G20 3-series and not the 7er LCI.
In the private practice medical field it doesn't look great to show up in an extravagant vehicle.
Why? I couldn't care less what my doctor drives as long as they're a great doctor. If they drive a Ferrari or rolls Royce or something then I'm happy they're able to enjoy their success.
Thats great, but believe me, not everyone sees it that way, and people get very angry.
Appreciate 2
530iDriver1565.00
clee1982691.00

      07-22-2019, 07:28 PM   #101
enigma01
Fight On!
enigma01's Avatar
United_States
102
Rep
325
Posts

Drives: e92 M3; g30 530e
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Rancho Santa Fe

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by joshuastein55 View Post
Have to agree, this is one of the reasons I don't have a BMW in my garage for the first time in over 20 years.

Another problem is the competition is closing the gap when it comes to handling/driving dynamics. Back in the 90's and early 2000's, the 3,5, and even 7 series were best handling in their class with no cars coming close except maybe the G35/7 but they had a large gap in how it drove in comparison to the rest of the class.

Now, while the BMWs still do have some sportiness, the class has caught up, and some cars have even surpassed BMW in the handling/driving dynamics such as Alfa, Jaguar, some Cadillacs and even some Mercedes.

I understand that BMW is chasing sales numbers, and I don't blame them, whatever their doing is working, as they surpassed Mercedes as the #1 luxury manufacturer this year so far, but in the process, they have lost me until they make a product that I find to be "The Ultimate Driving Machine"
I wish that BMW would have followed the Porsche model, where they created the Cayenne to expand their line-up and get more R&D money to support their specialty vehicles.

The main difference I see is that BMW expands the line-up (how many SUVs do they have now?!) and waters down the existing/iconic cars, where as Porsche expands the line-up to strengthen the existing/iconic cars.
Appreciate 1
jstein556848.00

      07-24-2019, 03:13 PM   #102
Deda
Major General
Deda's Avatar
Croatia
469
Rep
7,017
Posts

Drives: BMW M5 comp
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Croatia

iTrader: (0)

Hello i just found this..looks closely to pics 6 and 7...i dont know is it rendering..
Attached Images
  
Appreciate 0
      07-28-2019, 08:03 PM   #103
Das BMW
Private
21
Rep
62
Posts

Drives: -
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: TX

iTrader: (0)

Is there normally a bump in MSRP after an LCI?
Appreciate 0
      07-28-2019, 08:50 PM   #104
drivethemachine
Lieutenant
drivethemachine's Avatar
167
Rep
400
Posts

Drives: 2018 BMW 530e
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Long Island, NY

iTrader: (1)

That's a rendering.
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2019, 06:51 AM   #105
530iDriver
Colonel
530iDriver's Avatar
United_States
1565
Rep
2,352
Posts

Drives: 2017 BMW 530i
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Das BMW View Post
Is there normally a bump in MSRP after an LCI?
Yes
__________________
2017 BMW 530i, Sport Line,Alpine White, Canberra Beige Sensatec, 19 inch V-Spoke wheels, basic plain Jane build with no options whatsoever..... "Less is more".

Before: 2011 BMW 328i E90 sedan, Platinum Bronze Metallic, Dakota Brown leather, 17 inch wheels, 6-speed auto, N52 6 Cyl inline N/A goodness....
Appreciate 0
      08-04-2019, 12:04 PM   #106
Wills2
Barge driver
Wills2's Avatar
United Kingdom
6506
Rep
10,751
Posts

Drives: X3M
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: West Yorkshire

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by enigma01 View Post
I wish that BMW would have followed the Porsche model, where they created the Cayenne to expand their line-up and get more R&D money to support their specialty vehicles.

The main difference I see is that BMW expands the line-up (how many SUVs do they have now?!) and waters down the existing/iconic cars, where as Porsche expands the line-up to strengthen the existing/iconic cars.
They have completely different business models though, BMW need volume Porsche don't want it or need it.
__________________
X3M/Z4C, Gone G11 740d xdrive/F80 M3/F10 M5/F31 335d/e92 M3 x 2/F10 520d x 2/997 C2S/e46 M3/e46 320d/SL320/Touareg 3.2V6/Audi allroad 2.7TDi
Appreciate 0
      08-04-2019, 09:39 PM   #107
clee1982
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
691
Rep
1,650
Posts

Drives: 2019 BMW 540i xDrive
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: NYC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by enigma01 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by joshuastein55 View Post
Have to agree, this is one of the reasons I don't have a BMW in my garage for the first time in over 20 years.

Another problem is the competition is closing the gap when it comes to handling/driving dynamics. Back in the 90's and early 2000's, the 3,5, and even 7 series were best handling in their class with no cars coming close except maybe the G35/7 but they had a large gap in how it drove in comparison to the rest of the class.

Now, while the BMWs still do have some sportiness, the class has caught up, and some cars have even surpassed BMW in the handling/driving dynamics such as Alfa, Jaguar, some Cadillacs and even some Mercedes.

I understand that BMW is chasing sales numbers, and I don't blame them, whatever their doing is working, as they surpassed Mercedes as the #1 luxury manufacturer this year so far, but in the process, they have lost me until they make a product that I find to be "The Ultimate Driving Machine"
I wish that BMW would have followed the Porsche model, where they created the Cayenne to expand their line-up and get more R&D money to support their specialty vehicles.

The main difference I see is that BMW expands the line-up (how many SUVs do they have now?!) and waters down the existing/iconic cars, where as Porsche expands the line-up to strengthen the existing/iconic cars.
BMW sells more than 50% SUV while Porsche sells more than like 80% SUV? Different level of subsidy I suppose?
Appreciate 0
      08-05-2019, 12:14 AM   #108
enigma01
Fight On!
enigma01's Avatar
United_States
102
Rep
325
Posts

Drives: e92 M3; g30 530e
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Rancho Santa Fe

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by clee1982 View Post
BMW sells more than 50% SUV while Porsche sells more than like 80% SUV? Different level of subsidy I suppose?
Not sure it's all that relevant.

Porsche's global SUV sales isn't anywhere near 80%.

It sold 256,255 vehicles globally in 2018, and of the total, about 157,000 came from Macan and Cayenne. That's about 60%.

This is actually pretty remarkable considering that the non-SUV vehicles are 911, 718 (Boxsters, Cayman) and Panamera. They are either impractical (718) or very expensive (Panamera), or both (911).
Appreciate 0
      08-05-2019, 10:44 AM   #109
530iDriver
Colonel
530iDriver's Avatar
United_States
1565
Rep
2,352
Posts

Drives: 2017 BMW 530i
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by enigma01 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by clee1982 View Post
BMW sells more than 50% SUV while Porsche sells more than like 80% SUV? Different level of subsidy I suppose?
Not sure it's all that relevant.

Porsche's global SUV sales isn't anywhere near 80%.

It sold 256,255 vehicles globally in 2018, and of the total, about 157,000 came from Macan and Cayenne. That's about 60%.

This is actually pretty remarkable considering that the non-SUV vehicles are 911, 718 (Boxsters, Cayman) and Panamera. They are either impractical (718) or very expensive (Panamera), or both (911).
One interesting point about Porsche is that I hardly see their vehicles in the streets and highways of Germany and most of Europe for that matter.

I would gather the bulk of production is exported and sold elsewhere?
__________________
2017 BMW 530i, Sport Line,Alpine White, Canberra Beige Sensatec, 19 inch V-Spoke wheels, basic plain Jane build with no options whatsoever..... "Less is more".

Before: 2011 BMW 328i E90 sedan, Platinum Bronze Metallic, Dakota Brown leather, 17 inch wheels, 6-speed auto, N52 6 Cyl inline N/A goodness....
Appreciate 0
      08-05-2019, 10:52 AM   #110
AP
Colonel
AP's Avatar
804
Rep
2,958
Posts

Drives: G30 540i X Msport
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Certainly see a lot of their cars around London. But then again it's quite usual to see more expensive cars around here.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:05 AM.




5post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST