12-19-2019, 04:57 AM | #1 |
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530e advice
I currently have a 530d and lease is up in a few months and considering a 530e - if you have a full battery and leave car in eDrive auto how many miles would you get with it automatically switching between battery and engine before battery is depleted? Also, once battery is depleted does it still work as a mild hybrid?
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12-19-2019, 07:39 AM | #2 | |
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If my total range between charges is outside the ev range, I don't worry about it and let the car do its thing. it seems to me that ultimately I am using the same amount of electricity and gasoline whether the mix at the beginning is more electric or is so at the end. |
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12-19-2019, 08:41 AM | #3 | |
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If you're attempting to maximize fuel economy ECO Pro is the best for this. It will be a lot more aggressive in how often it turns off the engine and operates on electric. For instance, it will turn the engine off when coasting and coast on the electric motor and will extend electric range on drives where speed is relatively constant. It works very well. Max eDrive is great if you want as much power as you can get from the electric motor before switching to gas. As it will allow a larger electric only power range (60% up from the 40% in Auto) and will hold the gas engine off until the hybrid battery is fully drained. IMHO the most important impact on range (at least so far in the Winter as I haven't yet owned in the summer) is to precondition before you leave so the battery and cabin are warm as the most you re-charge and the more you precondition the better the range. |
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I only drive in auto and noticed something interesting recently when some road work was finally completed. A good bit of my commute is highway that has been under construction for months and the speed limit was reduced. Now, I am at 70+ mph and my range has significantly increased and mpg has decreased. Why? The 530e will generally favor electric drive below 70 mph and gas above 70 mph. |
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12-19-2019, 04:35 PM | #6 | |
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IMHO it makes the most sense if you're on the highway on a longer drive and on CC. No sense wasting fuel on a more responsive driving style when you're coasting down the highway on a 500 mile road trip. It only increases the likelihood you'll be stopping for gas. Additionally, If you're in a state like me you stay in a more responsive mode in state since we don't really have a ton of troopers so you don't get busted for speed often. I do hit CC in NY and DE as they are both aggressive with speed enforcement. I absolutely hit CC in VA which I am in a few times a year as going 80MPH is an offense that will require you to serve jail time and I'm not interested in being in a jail for any reason. |
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ICE: 180HP EV: 111HP Combined: 248HP |
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The 2020 330e hasn't hit the US yet, but my understanding is it has eBoost and xTraBoost as a added bonus. Such a mode might come too the 530e via LCI not sure, but I'm sure it will feel a lot better on the 330e. The smaller more nimble vehicle should response aggressively to that boost. |
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01-21-2020, 03:26 PM | #13 |
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No, as there is only eBoost on the 530e. Which is a combination as I mentioned earlier. It doesn’t yet have a function to temporarily overcharge the EV motor temporarily. The LCI may get this in MY2021 or it may be limited to the 3 series. No one knows right now. But the current 530e does not have that feature.
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01-22-2020, 01:54 AM | #17 | |
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21 miles in the summer and 16 miles in the winter. They have increased the battery size slightly which should improve things a little. I drive 16 miles a day commuting to work so the car suits me fine. However, when I travel for work (twice a week) normally 200 mile round trips I average around 42mpg which I’m not happy with and doesn’t cover my cost per mile claim from my employer. Consider your Driving habits and get a test drive for the day if you can. Me personally I will be going full electric in 18 months. I personally feel the plug in hybrid is too much of a compromise. You’re carrying the weight of an engine and gearbox when using an electric and when the batteries are depleted your engine is hauling the weight of a heavy empty battery. It works out as 2.5 miles per kw/h. Where an electric car you would expect at least 5 miles kw/h. |
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01-22-2020, 05:05 AM | #18 | ||
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To realize gas savings you will probably have to keep the car over a number of years to barely break even. There is a reason why BMW priced the G30 530e same as it's 530i gasoline only counterpart: To move the metal out quicker from dealer lots. These cars don't sell unless you throw in special pricing, cash on the hood or a combination of incentives including Federal tax credits. Previous BMW iterations of ActiveHybrid models sold poorly because they were priced higher than gas only counterparts. I believe this is a situation where you either go full gasoline or full EV or go home.
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Moving a lot of PHEVs has at least two major advantages for BMW in my view: 1. Improving fleet wide fuel economy standards and minimizing fines based on overall fleet fuel economy. These fines hit luxury car makers like BMW and Mercedes the hardest as buyers of these brands tend to want the M and AMG models where fuel economy isn't the primary focus. 2. Improving their electric drive train expertise. BMW needs to build EVs if they are going to stay competitive and they need to move EVs with a client base that aren't focused on fuel economy. Price parity helps them to get into the car where they'll learn the tradeoff isn't as bad as they initially thought it would be. The 530e is a great car and BMW did a great job of not giving something boring to drive. The high torque of the EV adds a nice little bit of flare and the car is just so darn quiet in EV mode. That being said, the more you can charge it the better your experience will be with the car. So any savings may be hard to come by or easy to come by depending on your driving style, location, and charging frequency. But I see the PHEV as the right choice in the US as with such a large country we frequently do long drives. DC Fast Charging for BEVs can be VERY EXPENSIVE (to the point it out prices gas) unless you're in a Tesla using their super charging network. Being able to fallback to gas in those cases makes sense while using EV predominantly at home. Quote:
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01-22-2020, 09:57 AM | #20 |
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I think it might. The original 330e had an advertised HP of something like 84 and the 530e had an advertised HP of 111 but both had similar ICEs and similar rated HP.
I have always suspected that they are essentially the same but we had the boost built in. Don't know but that is my suspicion. |
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