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BMW does not use BT 5.0, and even then, there is audio processing and compressing. If you cannot hear the difference, save the hard drive space and go ahead and use inferior audio quality. I unfortunately have nearly perfect pitch and can notice a difference so refuse to subject my ears to compromised quality.
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Is there something else more fundamentally wrong than merely the 'bluetooth' aspect...?
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[Ziggy, it depends.... standard digital audio data transmission over bluetooth is noticeably worse than airplay or other wi-fi methods, or wired. There are efficient codecs like APT-X which improve perceived audio quality but your phone and the receiving unit both need to be compatible. I got my head round it all about 3 years ago but have lost track now.]
EDIT - didn't see page 2 of thread before posting. The above may be obsolete... |
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I picked up my car yesterday, I had specified the upgraded professional hi fi, that is between standard (in UK Ireland ) and the HK. I had HK in my F 10. Maybe it needs to be run in but it doesn't appear to have same clarity and depth of field that the HK (running in non surround mode) did but it's not bad. I don't listen to much music in the car anyway (but have two B&W systems, one stereo, one home cinema at home so I do know a little about audio ) so it works for me
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Hifi in G31 vs hi-fi in F31
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I’m desperate with the sound quality of the Hi-fi (12 speaker) sound system in the G31. I’m coming from a F31 with the Hi-fi system and I was very satisfied with it. Very involving sound and deep bass! The G31 hi-fi system bass is very limited and the lack of the rear doors speakers makes a huge difference as the rear speakers are located in the ceiling of the trunk. It improved a bit by fading the sound towards the back buts not enough. If I don’t do this then there is no involvement sound and you only hear the front speakers. In addition, the radio source sounds much better then the Spotify one when connected to my iPhone (even through cable and with local musics downloaded in to the phone at the highest of quality possible of kbits). It feels like it requires more amplification as you need to turn the sound really up to get an involving sound. I’m so disappointed with the hi-fi sound on the G31. I don’t know if the HK is good but the hi-fi is very bad specially if you are comming from a F31 Hi-fi. Just wanted to get my opinion out there as Ive read so many threads online and then decided to go for the Hi-fi. Cheers, Theos |
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Not impressed with the HK system in my M550i. I think they've gone the wrong direction due to the door trim panel design... it looks like they're limited in space. The speakers should be much better considering it's an $80k car... I love everything else about the car though
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Have you guys played with the equalisers much? I find dramatic differences depending on the audio source and the equaliser settings.
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My mate has just bought a brand new MY67 M4 with all the toys. His HK system is leaps and bounds better than the standard setup in my MY67 530e.
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After having HK in the F10 and G30 from my perspective the G30 is far better... once you let it run in. It also needs a bit of tuning in via the EQ and I keep the surround option off as I find it ruins the sound.
As for streaming... I don't ever do that. I have a 500Gb HDD plugged in with a replica of my itunes collection. Saves a lot of work in transferring to the internal drive. It's better quality than streaming but still lower than a good CD. It's very subjective though, what sounds fantastic to me may sound pants to other people. R
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It is surprising how people are hearing such dramatic differences between HK systems in different cars. They are essentially the same drive units from the same parts bins in the factory, installed in very similar locations. If anything the G30 implementation should sound slightly better than the F10 because the door mids are mounted on rigid metal and aren’t vibrating the door card nearly as much, but the high pass filter at whatever it is, maybe 200hz ?, means this isn’t a huge issue anyway.
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To anyone that thinks the F30 HK sounds different to G30 HK - let me put this thing to bed for you.
1. Essentially they are similar. Essentially. 2. Different acoustics - size of car, doors, noise isolation (better in G30) So why do the 2 HK systems sound different? 1. G30 has 7 x 25mm tweeters compared to the F3x that has 7 x 26mm tweeters. Yup folks different setup. So your tweeters by door mirrors are different, so is the one behind the SatNav screen. Because these tweeters play directly towards your ears (unlike base that's not directional) you will notice they are less 'filling'. In the F3x you get better mids and high's are not so high - I think they wanted to define the high notes better in the G30, hence the change in tweeters - so you will notice better definition of your high notes in the G30. |
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http://www.realoem.com/bmw/en/part?q=65139184794 http://www.realoem.com/bmw/en/part?q=65139226357 Sometimes both parts are found in the same system, e.g. HK system in the F20. Are you sure there's actually any difference in the sensitivity/frequency response/quality of electronics, rather than just a packaging/cosmetic difference ? |
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Getting my new 540 with Harmann Kardon system. And the question is - how to perform songs on it with max quality?
1) which audio format to choose - mp3, AAC, flac or smth else? 2) which way of playing is better - using wireless AppleCarPlay, using USB storage, using cable USB connection phone-car, using cars hard drive? Some may answer - good quality CD. But... in 2018...CD...lets skip this answer) |
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I just ordered a 120i here in Costa Rica. The car comes with a very basic/bad audio system made out of 4 speakers I believe. I was planning on upgrading it to HK 12 speakers set but the dealer wants $2000 for this extra.
I noticed that upgrading audio to HK on the X2 costs $900 in the U.S. Is there a reason for such a high price in my case? I know I will be paying a small extra for the fact that I'm buying this in Costa Rica but still not sure if going forward with the upgrade. Any help? Sorry everyone, just noticed this is for the 5 series. Last edited by davidcapi; 04-24-2018 at 03:41 PM.. |
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- 1 mid range speaker on instrument's panel. - 1 tweeter on instrument's panel. - 2 tweeters on front window triangles. - 2 mid range speakers on front doors. - 2 mid range speakers on back doors. - 2 tweeters on back doors. - 2 subwoofers under front seats. - Metallic speaker grills. - Harman/Kardon inscriptions. - 360w Amplifier. Since the car comes with just 4 speakers -nothing special- setup, not even Alpine audio system, I imagine the extra cost comes from having to fit all the extra wiring and such, but truth be told, I have no idea how this works. |
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Gotta say I really like the sound quality of HK in the g30. I had the bose in an old Audi A3 and although the base and sound was great it is just too much for a car. You don't want to shake all the joints loose in the car really.
The key for me is whether the system can deal with classical music which changes in volume from the start of tracks to the end etc. Eg I think it was the 'Jack Sparrow' track from Dead Mans Chest that I could never hear the beginning parts on my e61 standard hifi. But the track then reaches crescendos later on and the last thing you want to be doing is tweaking the volume knob all the time. I find the HK the right balance of cost, quality and appropriateness for a car...
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