[Nerdking]

Considering a 2021 530e with 34k miles. It's still under warranty for the time being, but I'll own it out of warranty for most of the time I own it. How are these to own out of warranty? I have had many BMWs in the past and currently have a 2005 530i with 180k miles that I deal with. Mainly worried about the hybridization portions on the vehicle. Can anyone chime in?

[srybicki]

80k on my 2018 had a coolant leak on a small radiator in the wheel
Well besides that just maintenance.

[Nerdking]

Have you owned it the entire 80k miles? It seems like modern BMWs are fairly reliable. Do you charge the battery often?

[Joe-BMW33]

Have you looked into extended warranty options or priced them out to see what you will be looking at? I have no idea if EV or PHEV's aftermarket warranties are more costly than the equivalent 100% ICE model, but having just bought a 7 years aftermarket on my ICE G30, it wasn't bad.

[srybicki]

Originally Posted by Nerdking

Have you owned it the entire 80k miles? It seems like modern BMWs are fairly reliable. Do you charge the battery often?

Bought it with 36k miles on it cpo.
We also have a 2017 x5 40e that now has 114k miles bought it with 35k miles cpo.
That one needed one bag under warranty and a rear diff under warranty.
We charge both most days.

[LogicalApex]

I have only been out of warranty for a month so I’m not qualified to give long term data.

But we don’t see a lot of failures for the PHEVs here. Which is promising.

Originally Posted by Joe-BMW33

Have you looked into extended warranty options or priced them out to see what you will be looking at? I have no idea if EV or PHEV's aftermarket warranties are more costly than the equivalent 100% ICE model, but having just bought a 7 years aftermarket on my ICE G30, it wasn't bad.

If the PHEV is registered in a CARB state the car will have an extended warranty on the powertrain.

15Y/150K Miles for the power train if a Check Engine light is thrown
10Y/100K Miles on a the HV battery.

An extended warranty will cover other issues though like iDrive giving up the ghost and etc.

[srybicki]

If you are in those states there is no reason to buy the other versions.

[srybicki]

In carb states the HV battery has a 10 year 150k coverege. (Page 24)

[Nerdking]

Thanks everyone. I ended up with a 2021 530i instead. I found a really good deal on one with every single option checked that was still under factory warranty plus it was a CPO. An incredible vehicle for sure...

[arkhi]

How much did you get it for and how many miles?

[Nerdking]

Originally Posted by arkhi

How much did you get it for and how many miles?

I got it for $32,600 with 36k miles. Car is an Alpine White 2021 530i with Ivory White Nappa leather, Luxury seating package, Massaging Seats, Executive Package, Parking Assistance Package, Drivers Assistance Plus Package, Sensatec dashboard, Style 635 wheels.

Only option is doesn't have is heated steering wheel, since it was a Texas car.

[arkhi]

Originally Posted by Nerdking

I got it for $32,600 with 36k miles. Car is an Alpine White 2021 530i with Ivory White Nappa leather, Luxury seating package, Massaging Seats, Executive Package, Parking Assistance Package, Drivers Assistance Plus Package, Sensatec dashboard, Style 635 wheels.

Only option is doesn't have is heated steering wheel, since it was a Texas car.

Minus the exterior color, i really love that and I think it's an awesome buy! Congrats!!

[530iDriver]

Originally Posted by LogicalApex

I have only been out of warranty for a month so I’m not qualified to give long term data.

But we don’t see a lot of failures for the PHEVs here. Which is promising.



If the PHEV is registered in a CARB state the car will have an extended warranty on the powertrain.

15Y/150K Miles for the power train if a Check Engine light is thrown
10Y/100K Miles on a the HV battery.

An extended warranty will cover other issues though like iDrive giving up the ghost and etc.

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Pretty disappointing that BMW doesn’t want to know about you or your car after 8 years of you intend to keep it long term. I had no idea the PHEVs had such long powertrain warranty of registered in a CARB state (Which sadly Florida is not).
The graph above represents my gripe with modern BMW long haul ownership. You simply can’t get a 10 year extended warranty contract from BMW and any price. They just don’t have any confidence in their own products past 7 years since in-service date. Also detest the fact that they cover most emission related components up to 8 years. The current BMW extended warranty contracts have a lot of exclusions (They don’t cover hoses, seals and other mission critical components because they well know they will melt, crack or become brittle - Looking at you return coolant lines). Also their warranties are geared to high mileage drivers, 15K+ miles per year. If you are like me, a chap that hardly drives 5K-6K a year, their warranties are not that great.

[530iDriver]

Originally Posted by Nerdking

I got it for $32,600 with 36k miles. Car is an Alpine White 2021 530i with Ivory White Nappa leather, Luxury seating package, Massaging Seats, Executive Package, Parking Assistance Package, Drivers Assistance Plus Package, Sensatec dashboard, Style 635 wheels.

Only option is doesn't have is heated steering wheel, since it was a Texas car.

Decent enough deal you got there. Congrats. The standard 530i gasoline model is a great car and more than enough for the vast majority of daily drivers. My recommendation is to keep tabs and watch your coolant levels and cooling system like a hawk. Make it a habit to check your coolant levels (Engine cold, parked overnight) at least once every 2 weeks.

[530iDriver]

Originally Posted by arkhi

Minus the exterior color, i really love that and I think it's an awesome buy! Congrats!!

Alpine White is fantastic. Easiest color to maintain. My 530i will be 7 years old and the paint still looks lustrous and beautiful like the day I picked her up.

[LogicalApex]

Originally Posted by 530iDriver

Pretty disappointing that BMW doesn’t want to know about you or your car after 8 years of you intend to keep it long term. I had no idea the PHEVs had such long powertrain warranty of registered in a CARB state (Which sadly Florida is not).
The graph above represents my gripe with modern BMW long haul ownership. You simply can’t get a 10 year extended warranty contract from BMW and any price. They just don’t have any confidence in their own products past 7 years since in-service date. Also detest the fact that they cover most emission related components up to 8 years. The current BMW extended warranty contracts have a lot of exclusions (They don’t cover hoses, seals and other mission critical components because they well know they will melt, crack or become brittle - Looking at you return coolant lines). Also their warranties are geared to high mileage drivers, 15K+ miles per year. If you are like me, a chap that hardly drives 5K-6K a year, their warranties are not that great.

The CARB state BMW extended warranty is the longest I’m aware of for BMW globally. But it is the result of California regulations. They wanted people to have confidence to purchase PHEVs by removing the concern of the extra complexity.

I think that was a great idea. Shame other states didn’t do the same thing or opt into CARB standards.

That really helped me feel more comfortable buying a BMW PHEV. With BMW historically having reliability issues longer term and expensive repairs the 15Y coverage really helped to give me peace of mind. As 15Y is well within my intended ownership period (7-10Y).

So far, my 530e has been reliable.

[Nerdking]

Originally Posted by 530iDriver

Decent enough deal you got there. Congrats. The standard 530i gasoline model is a great car and more than enough for the vast majority of daily drivers. My recommendation is to keep tabs and watch your coolant levels and cooling system like a hawk. Make it a habit to check your coolant levels (Engine cold, parked overnight) at least once every 2 weeks.

Yeah, I check everything regularly. This is my 7th BMW and I'm used to fluids leaking eventually.

[Mihali]

Originally Posted by LogicalApex

The CARB state BMW extended warranty is the longest I’m aware of for BMW globally. But it is the result of California regulations. They wanted people to have confidence to purchase PHEVs by removing the concern of the extra complexity.

I think that was a great idea. Shame other states didn’t do the same thing or opt into CARB standards.

That really helped me feel more comfortable buying a BMW PHEV. With BMW historically having reliability issues longer term and expensive repairs the 15Y coverage really helped to give me peace of mind. As 15Y is well within my intended ownership period (7-10Y).

So far, my 530e has been reliable.

Hi,
I also have a 2018 530e. I was wondering what exactly does the carb state warranty cover. Is it just the batteries themselves or is it the power train and batteries? Would really appreciate the details on this. Also, this was a great forum read!

[LogicalApex]

Originally Posted by Mihali

Hi,
I also have a 2018 530e. I was wondering what exactly does the carb state warranty cover. Is it just the batteries themselves or is it the power train and batteries? Would really appreciate the details on this. Also, this was a great forum read!

The manual says the same thing the CARB regulations say, but basically it covers the HV battery for 10Y/100K miles and anything that leads to a check engine light for 15Y/150K miles.

Here is a link to the manual:

https://www.bmwusa.com/content/dam/b...ver_042920.pdf

[Mihali]

Originally Posted by LogicalApex

The manual says the same thing the CARB regulations say, but basically it covers the HV battery for 10Y/100K miles and anything that leads to a check engine light for 15Y/150K miles.

Here is a link to the manual:

https://www.bmwusa.com/content/dam/b...ver_042920.pdf

That’s great to hear really appreciate the info. The manual book says for 2020 models, I assume this manual applies for 2018 models correct?

[LogicalApex]

Originally Posted by Mihali

That’s great to hear really appreciate the info. The manual book says for 2020 models, I assume this manual applies for 2018 models correct?

I've only had a MY2020 so I haven't read the MY2018 warranty booklet. I assume so since it is CARB based, but you can pull the 2018 version in case it differs at all here:

https://www.bmwusa.com/explore/bmw-v...nty-books.html

[Mihali]

[QUOTE=LogicalApex;31135175]I've only had a MY2020 so I haven't read the MY2018 warranty booklet. I assume so since it is CARB based, but you can pull the 2018 version in case it differs at all here:

https://www.bmwusa.com/explore/bmw-v...nty-books.html

Great I found exactly what I needed.

The hybrid system which are the batteries have a 10 year warranty or 150k miles. The emission related parts are under the 15 year 150k mile warranty. People mix the two warranties which was why I needed to see it in writing from BMW. Attaching the images of proof if anyone else is curious to know also. Much appreciated 🤝