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      01-27-2017, 07:54 PM   #89
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Nice to have one right in front of my office for reference.
I actually hate this setup on my wife's Honda as sometimes you just want one extra wipe and this way you either go up and turn on the wipers (which I don't want) or you need to go two down and then two back up. Stupid...my F30 extra button is much better for me, as you can just press down one, you get an extra wipe and the stalk comes back to neutral. Too bad they got rid of it.

What about auto-high beams on the left stalk? Is it still an extra button?
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All of that and one or two sentences on the handling..... what happened to that being the headline for a BMW review?
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      01-28-2017, 01:46 AM   #91
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I actually hate this setup on my wife's Honda as sometimes you just want one extra wipe and this way you either go up and turn on the wipers (which I don't want) or you need to go two down and then two back up. Stupid...my F30 extra button is much better for me, as you can just press down one, you get an extra wipe and the stalk comes back to neutral. Too bad they got rid of it.

What about auto-high beams on the left stalk? Is it still an extra button?
I was thinking the same, prefers the old version.
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      01-28-2017, 05:11 AM   #92
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Look at the present 1- (not in the US?) and 3-series, both have this dark grey msport detail and now it has been smacked on to the 5-series. I also dislike it but it was inevitable. Deciding between mediterranean and bluestone for the G31 order and the darker the car the less this area is noticeable. Waiting for "real life" pictures of mediterranean that I can understand and rate the colour from.
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      01-28-2017, 05:14 AM   #93
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They really killed the vent temp knob? I am not being sarcastic, but I love that thing. I am constantly fine-tuning on my F'10 and I mean that in a good way.

So STUPID to shove it into the idrive.

Damn them...
+1. I am one of those that understand it and adjusts it several times each ride I just say
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      01-28-2017, 05:19 AM   #94
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My word. I cannot take that half-digital cluster. It looks so Honda Civic....:

Great write up, though. And, great car!
It is so ugly that is seems to be forbidden in Europe. How they can put this in an expensive US model is beyond me. I want all of it in the HUD but until I can get that I am going for 6WB.
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      01-28-2017, 07:03 AM   #95
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I don't get why 6WB isn't available in US at launch???

They are making it available in the 4 LCI and 3 as well.
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they got rid of the climate dial cause of IQS. along with the auto wiper button, the lock button in the middle, and the blinkers now stick instead of going back.
Not tracking how climate dial negatively impacts IQS?
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I think the vent dial confused 90% of the people that owned a BMW. I myself couldn't understand if I adjust the temp with the dial? The knob? In the iDrive? It was way to confusing for a normal person and I bet BMW gets a ton of questions on it, so they just decided to ditch it.
I disagree...It's an evergreen feature thats been on generations of BMW's. If people cant understand a simple knob god help em with the rest of the features on these cars. It simply provides cooler air on the face if desired when warmer air is on the lower torso. It doesnt need to be used at all when cooling in summer. Just keep on cold.

BMW isn't ditching the feature, they just made it even more complex and 3 steps away burying it in iDrive. I guess thats progress.
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I don't get why 6WB isn't available in US at launch???

They are making it available in the 4 LCI and 3 as well.

Most probably manufacturing constraints.
Same reason many parts or engines often arnt available at launch. Same with Individual not being available at launch
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Not tracking how climate dial negatively impacts IQS?
There have been negative reviews for years about it as people initially dont understand how to use it. So IQS scores drop

Same with the indicator controls. The now old way is superior, but people dont initially understand it and give the car bad scores

Seems most people want mindless technology
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      01-28-2017, 11:04 AM   #100
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I disagree...It's an evergreen feature thats been on generations of BMW's. If people cant understand a simple knob god help em with the rest of the features on these cars. It simply provides cooler air on the face if desired when warmer air is on the lower torso. It doesnt need to be used at all when cooling in summer. Just keep on cold.

BMW isn't ditching the feature, they just made it even more complex and 3 steps away burying it in iDrive. I guess thats progress.
The E60 5 Series also did not have it.
Atleast this way its still there is you want it
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      01-28-2017, 11:39 AM   #102
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      01-28-2017, 11:56 AM   #103
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There have been negative reviews for years about it as people initially dont understand how to use it. So IQS scores drop

Same with the indicator controls. The now old way is superior, but people dont initially understand it and give the car bad scores

Seems most people want mindless technology
Shame to lose such simple and easy to use controls.

Burying the face level air flow control in iDrive, is a backwards step in my view.

As for the auto wiper control... the single wipe while on auto is a useful function. If we have to go through two positions, rather than a spring return wipe function, how is that progress?

Both the above take away from simplicity of function.
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There have been negative reviews for years about it as people initially dont understand how to use it. So IQS scores drop

Same with the indicator controls. The now old way is superior, but people dont initially understand it and give the car bad scores

Seems most people want mindless technology
I can see how people might not initially get the temp dial but I think it's great once you understand it and I don't see how burying it in iDrive is convenient at all. It's something you want to have access to quickly.

I for one use it a lot as I get warm very easily and like cool air on my face.

I guess we have to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
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Shame to lose such simple and easy to use controls.

Burying the face level air flow control in iDrive, is a backwards step in my view.

As for the auto wiper control... the single wipe while on auto is a useful function. If we have to go through two positions, rather than a spring return wipe function, how is that progress?

Both the above take away from simplicity of function.
They are getting rid of the single wipe too?? WTF I love that feature.
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Shame to lose such simple and easy to use controls.

Burying the face level air flow control in iDrive, is a backwards step in my view.

As for the auto wiper control... the single wipe while on auto is a useful function. If we have to go through two positions, rather than a spring return wipe function, how is that progress?

Both the above take away from simplicity of function.
They are getting rid of the single wipe too?? WTF I love that feature.
I don't believe they are, if you look at the picture, I believe it looks like one touch down is now single wipe
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I don't believe they are, if you look at the picture, I believe it looks like one touch down is now single wipe
From the picture posted (Post #87) you have to go through off to get to a single wipe. That to me means you switch auto off. Need to switch auto on again.

At present we can keep auto wipe running and add a single 'flick' wipe. I find that feature very useful.
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From the picture posted (Post #87) you have to go through off to get to a single wipe. That to me means you switch auto off. Need to switch auto on again. At present we can keep auto wipe running and add a single 'flick' wipe. I find that feature very useful.
I checked this when I test drove a 540 earlier today. You are correct. And the old design was better.
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I checked this when I test drove a 540 earlier today. You are correct. And the old design was better.
Its a shame they went down this road. Single wipe was a life saver in the everchanging winter conditions in Finland..........!!! : ( Not Happy )
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I checked this when I test drove a 540 earlier today. You are correct. And the old design was better.
Oh, that sucks.
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