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      06-20-2012, 10:48 PM   #23
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that looks like a startled pig

thankfully it's just a horrible, horrible abortion of a rendering....
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      06-20-2012, 11:44 PM   #24
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Unfortunately, small BMWs in the past have always lead the design language, it is only Chris Bangle's E65/6 that a change of language have not been introduced on the small BMWs.
Looking back, it is the BMW 1500 & 2002 that leads the 1st gen 5er & the CS coupes. Then comes the E30 which leads the E32/4. After that the E36 leads the E38/9 etc. etc. until the E65.
That's very backward, the design and technology of the highest model should trickle down to the lower trims. Just like Angel Eyes, V8s, and LED lights.
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      06-20-2012, 11:50 PM   #25
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interesting. very interesting.
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      06-21-2012, 12:04 AM   #26
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      06-21-2012, 12:10 AM   #27
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That's very backward, the design and technology of the highest model should trickle down to the lower trims. Just like Angel Eyes, V8s, and LED lights.
Well, that's not the way they do things & whether it's backward or not it's debatable as most of their sales is on the 3er, so u can say it benefits most BMW customers.
As a matter of fact, the F30, in EU at least, have infinitely variable high-beam assist as an option & that feature is not available on any other BMWs apart from the F01/2 LCI & 6er, & that's only if they have the LED headlamp option.
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      06-21-2012, 12:11 AM   #28
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This is more of a general question, but seeing how almost everyone hates the steering on the F30 and F10, how much work or how big of a change would it be to tweak it?
The steering on the F30 is much less hated than the F10.
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      06-21-2012, 03:11 AM   #29
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Audi A6 has very strong sales in Germany, this may be the reason for BMW to do this LCI, to be back on top. Also E Class will switch to a new generation soon.
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      06-21-2012, 03:29 AM   #30
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No no no!!! If I wanted a 3-series I'd buy a 3-series. Whats with this trend of getting a uniform look across all the models?
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      06-21-2012, 05:02 AM   #31
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Remember this is just a render from a car magazine, and BMW is very early in the development so I guess the design details in the front etc is not decided yet.

It was alot of positive reading in what Scott has written. Carbon fiber, same platform as the next 6 and 7 , efficient engines and so on. I guess the car will be very premium and state of the art when it shows up. Right Scott ? :-)

But I agree that the LCI came pretty early. There we lost 10-20% value in the used car marked on our "old" F10/11.

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      06-21-2012, 06:37 AM   #32
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No no no!!! If I wanted a 3-series I'd buy a 3-series. Whats with this trend of getting a uniform look across all the models?
It's not a trend, just back to where BMW was 30-40 yrs ago.
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      06-21-2012, 08:43 AM   #33
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very bad rendering and I think it's too early

F10 is just released!
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Oh no, the nose looks like the F30
Say it arent so, BMW took the ugliest part of the F30 and put it on the F10 LCI. The good news is that the ugly LCI will increase the value of the current F10
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cheeZ!! why so fast ??

The current F10 is not even old yet!
in my book:
I doesn't even need an LCI until 2014...
....

or maybe this Generation's 5 will have two LCI ?!

but no matter, the rendering / speculative 'shop/drawing looks promising!

I would approve of the way forward...
Dont forget F10 came out in 2010 as a 2011 model. LCI's are typically after a little more than 3 years. The LCI coming out late next year as a 2014 model would be right on schedule.
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Facelift in 12 months on F10?
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I hope they do something about the steering. My dad bought my mom an F10 for her birthday in 2010 and even she hates the steering and the suspension (standard suspension). She came from an eight year old Mercedes, so that's really saying something.

It's not the fact that it's EPS, she drove the F30 and thought it was fine I just think they filtered out too much of the feel in the F10 and made it overly light and numb.

Otherwise, the car is great and doesn't need much of an update if you ask me especially not a visual update it still looks very fresh.
Bad choice of car for an older lady used to driving MBs. The E and the 5er are very different cars, and the ladies cannot switch to a BMW after MB. I have seen this with many people
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      06-21-2012, 11:48 AM   #38
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No no no!!! If I wanted a 3-series I'd buy a 3-series. Whats with this trend of getting a uniform look across all the models?
Every generation of BMW has common themes for design, electronics, features etc. For every new generation, the cars typically come out in this order:

7 ---> 5 ---> 3

And now you can throw the 1s Xs etc. in there somewhere
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cheeZ!! why so fast ??

The current F10 is not even old yet!
in my book:
I doesn't even need an LCI until 2014...
....

or maybe this Generation's 5 will have two LCI ?!
You say it doesn't need an LCI until 2014, but that's what it sounds like we will be seeing? 2013 model will be the same as the 2012 model. But it makes sense that 2014 will get an LCI.

Think about the E60 5 series...it came out as a 2004 model... And the E60 M5 came out as a 2005 model (2006 in North America only). The E60 LCI came out as a 2008 model (2/3 years after the E60 M5 came out, which is the same timeline they are suggesting for the F10 LCI)

Now think about the F10 5 series...it came out as a 2011 model...and the F10 M5 came out as a 2012 model (2013 only in the US, but Canada and Europe got it as a 2012 model.

makes sense to me...
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Dont forget F10 came out in 2010 as a 2011 model. LCI's are typically after a little more than 3 years. The LCI coming out late next year as a 2014 model would be right on schedule.
thats correct!
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2017 seems early. only a 6 year run on f10? it started MY 2011 right? LCI on year 4 doesn't seem too bad tho.
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Every generation of BMW has common themes for design, electronics, features etc. For every new generation, the cars typically come out in this order:

7 ---> 5 ---> 3

And now you can throw the 1s Xs etc. in there somewhere
Agreed but with this render it now appears that 3 = 5 = 7(?) which is just not acceptable. Personally I'm not a huge fan of the new 3-series nose and replicating that on a 5er is just cruel and I really hope this is someone's imagination and not really the direction BMW is taking for the future.
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Oh Please...they didn't even have good renders for the f10 5 series until 6 months before launch.

No way they know what the new BMW's are gonna look like in 5-6 years.

LCI is for 2014/2015 model year.
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Also, lets see how much debt/credit North AMericans have to throw around on buying BMW's...they're already living so far above their means, buying 5 series and other consumable goods.

Europe is getting hammered. By 2017, BMW may not be selling as much as they think. Asian economies (china, india) are slowing down and they are loaded on debt too.

This can't last. Rather off topic though.
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