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There's a lot of contempt for non-M cars going on. Now whilst I get that M sport badges suspension and wheels on 115bhp hatchback is just marketing, I seriously doubt there is any more than 5% of the time where the difference between an M550i and an M5 will be exploitable on a road in most countries. It's an automatic ban in the U.K. over 100mph. And point to point, now the M550i is AWD with rear wheel steering, it might even be faster on B roads than RWD predecessors. But no sign of it in the U.K. sadly so will likely never find out.
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That is a bold statement. Have you ever driven an 550 then an M5? If so you would notice the difference.
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For US roads, 550xi is a marketing/ego buy. On a practical level, 530xi is just as capable in day to day use and yet much more frugal in operation. But nothing wrong with marketing/ego buys, folks have a variety of fantasies in their heads.
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i'm not at all upset about this car, if anything i may consider it in a few years! my issue is that all this hype is BMW marketing. the F10 550 was released with the regular car with little/no fanfare. BMW simply delayed this car a bit, added a bunch of M badges and called it the M550 and now people are going nuts. but essentially it's the same car..
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No one gets high HP cars to be practical or frugal. We get them because they're fun.
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I also don't mind one bit. If the M3 was just a 3XXi and had no substantially different looks or looks that were largely available factory upgrades, would it have as much cache? Or what if the C63 was just a C500? In my humble opinion it's the same game by a different name. |
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The M550i is the only G30 that gets a lowered adatpive suspension that can be combined with Integral active steering.
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And 'High HP' is relative. 99.9% of the drivers on this planet would not be able to drive the 4cyl 530xi to its full engineered potential in street driving enviro, let alone exploit its limits on the track. Not to mention that not long ago some 'high performance' models had less than 250 hp. I don't recall too many complaints about the cars being 'low HP' or not fun. |
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The M5 is too much of a car to be driven on public roads. The M550 is at the limit of what everyday driver should be driving. |
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For everybody over here that believes that a "real" M is a hardcore purist drivers sublime and the rest is not, best consider a GT3 RS or 588 instead then.
for instance, X5/6M are genuine M products and also just heavy porkers with massive power. So M is not that orthodox that it sticks the real M badge on razor sharp weapons exclusively. What you typically get for your money is a limited slip diff, some enhanced brakes, some suspension tuning that prefers precision over composure. Enough to distinct it from the pack. With an M550i, the xDrive with torque vectoring stretches far to obsolete the limited slip diff anyway. When I'am not mistaken the M5 will also inherit the xDrive and ditch current setup. The M550i has to be a very meaningful alternative to the real M, certainly when you drive your bimmer on public roads. On a track, the M550i falls short, but the M5 will probably also do, like the current one does. |
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I don't think the issue is whether or not you can drive a car to it's full engineered potential, it's having a car that has a larger performance envelope to explore to the best of your abilities whether that's just accelerating hard or running a back country roads with lots of switchbacks. I guarantee it will be allot more fun in a car with a larger envelope.
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The new benchmark is probably the Chiron to many now. Ooohhh... many years to blabla ahead. |
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I see the same with the M240i and M2. Depending on what you option on the M240i, the difference between that and the M2 isn't that large yet I still see many choose a fully loaded M240i over a M2 which is available on the lot. While we would like to think that those who have the financial means would always buy the most expensive trim/model, there are others who are more rational and practical and aren't going to buy just because they can. Heck, a doctor who makes $200k annually, purchased a 320i. Not a 330i or a 530i but a 320i. |
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