[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by PPMKING

From my experience with bmw and 3rd party warranties, they don't go out of their way to point out a tune since they're not paying. All BMW cares about is will the 3rd party pay the claim. They'll just point out the parts failure to the 3rd party. Now the 3rd party warranty will send an adjuster out to inspect the car for major warranty claim. So obviously if you have a piggyback, you should remove it before taking car to dealer or indy.

The only exception to what I said above may be the extended warranty offered by BMW. Then I can see them having access to all info from dealer.

But will that adjuster have the ability to scan the data logs? Interesting conversation here and definitely making me think about the advantages of going aftermarket warranty if tuned. Good point on BMW not really caring if they aren't paying, BUT, the third party adjuster could ask them for information only they have access to that an indy can't do. Probably a stretch.

[HerkHealer]

Originally Posted by PPMKING

I would suspect at minimum they're storing data outside normal stock conditions somewhere. So although the piggyback is not detected since it does not change stock tables, it doesn't hide the affects of using it - tricking the computer to increase boost, timing above stock values.

That's a really good point. I'd bet the ECU flags anything "abnormal" and stores it somewhere. Higher boost, timing, etc would fall into that category.

A few mentions of 3rd Party warranty extensions. That is DEFINITELY the way i'm going. I actually called the best indy shop in my area and asked what 3rd Party they recommend and how the approval process with them was. The owner told me one, but I forget the company. I still have 1.5 years left on my factory warranty so I have plenty of time to grab it. Another bonus of 3rd party is you get an additional 3 years coverage for a total of 7 years.

[PPMKING]

Originally Posted by Joe-BMW33

But will that adjuster have the ability to scan the data logs? Interesting conversation here and definitely making me think about the advantages of going aftermarket warranty if tuned. Good point on BMW not really caring if they aren't paying, BUT, the third party adjuster could ask them for information only they have access to that an indy can't do. Probably a stretch.

From my experience, no. The service advisor just provides work order of what failed or if there's oil leak. Sometimes the 3rd party ask for pictures. I think the adjuster is probably looking for aftermarket Bolt ons - intake, downpipes etc. Also keep in mind, the adjuster doesn't come out for all repairs. I don't know the rhyme or reason for when they decide to come out. But from past claims I had, gasket leaks, major repair over $5k, they showed up.

[Joe-BMW33]

So I just dropped off my M550 for my Dinan exhaust install. I was talking to the owner and he mentioned he just did a Carbahn tune on an M5C or CS and was just shaking his head in awe of the 723hp it achieved.

He did my Dinan install. Until this point, I did not realize he did Carbahn tunes so I questioned that and he mentioned he just started. He is still a certified Dinan installer but he's had issues with them just shrugging off issues while his customers are left with the bag. He did mention he had similar issues with Carbahn until recently where there was no one answering the phone. This shop provides a high level of customer service and they expect the same from their suppliers.

ANYWAY, I made the same comment to him about wishing I went with a DME flash tune over the V2 and mentioned that I overthought the warranty too much. He looked at me like I was crazy, he could not disagree more on the value of a warranty.

He said if I really wanted a the Carbahn tune and he would take out the V2 and I could sell it. I told him it wasn't worth much, but that does not mean I'm not considering the flash at some point, especially since my trusted performance shop right down the street can do it.

I'll try to enjoy my exhaust for a while before I get the urge to fuck around with something else. Hell, I am getting 14 more hp with the exhaust, lol.

[PPMKING]

Originally Posted by Joe-BMW33

So I just dropped off my M550 for my Dinan exhaust install. I was talking to the owner and he mentioned he just did a Carbahn tune on an M5C or CS and was just shaking his head in awe of the 723hp it achieved.

He did my Dinan install. Until this point, I did not realize he did Carbahn tunes so I questioned that and he mentioned he just started. He is still a certified Dinan installer but he's had issues with them just shrugging off issues while his customers are left with the bag. He did mention he had similar issues with Carbahn until recently where there was no one answering the phone. This shop provides a high level of customer service and they expect the same from their suppliers.

ANYWAY, I made the same comment to him about wishing I went with a DME flash tune over the V2 and mentioned that I overthought the warranty too much. He looked at me like I was crazy, he could not disagree more on the value of a warranty.

He said if I really wanted a the Carbahn tune and he would take out the V2 and I could sell it. I told him it wasn't worth much, but that does not mean I'm not considering the flash at some point, especially since my trusted performance shop right down the street can do it.

I'll try to enjoy my exhaust for a while before I get the urge to fuck around with something else. Hell, I am getting 14 more hp with the exhaust, lol.

Unless you're chasing 1/4 mile times, your setup is more than enough.

[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by PPMKING

Unless you're chasing 1/4 mile times, your setup is more than enough.

😂😂😂. To the contrary, I just have a problem 😉

[PPMKING]

Originally Posted by Joe-BMW33

😂😂😂. To the contrary, I just have a problem 😉

I think we all do. Once we start modding we can't stop. It's like a fix, we need to keeping pushing the limit.

[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by PPMKING

I think we all do. Once we start modding we can't stop. It's like a fix, we need to keeping pushing the limit.

Yup, and not a speed or power thing for me. It's just "what can I do next"? I'm running out of things inside, outside and mechanically. I'd say the only thing I haven't done is springs. I'd like it to sit a little lower, but I love the ride and don't want to risk being remorseful.

[Kriz2fer]

Originally Posted by Joe-BMW33

So I just dropped off my M550 for my Dinan exhaust install. I was talking to the owner and he mentioned he just did a Carbahn tune on an M5C or CS and was just shaking his head in awe of the 723hp it achieved.

He did my Dinan install. Until this point, I did not realize he did Carbahn tunes so I questioned that and he mentioned he just started. He is still a certified Dinan installer but he's had issues with them just shrugging off issues while his customers are left with the bag. He did mention he had similar issues with Carbahn until recently where there was no one answering the phone. This shop provides a high level of customer service and they expect the same from their suppliers.

ANYWAY, I made the same comment to him about wishing I went with a DME flash tune over the V2 and mentioned that I overthought the warranty too much. He looked at me like I was crazy, he could not disagree more on the value of a warranty.

He said if I really wanted a the Carbahn tune and he would take out the V2 and I could sell it. I told him it wasn't worth much, but that does not mean I'm not considering the flash at some point, especially since my trusted performance shop right down the street can do it.

I'll try to enjoy my exhaust for a while before I get the urge to fuck around with something else. Hell, I am getting 14 more hp with the exhaust, lol.

Your lucky you can get a tune. Most of the m550 on here can’t tune. I would’ve already done it.

[PsiAddict]

I’m thinking of getting this for my 2021 M550i. This is just a piggyback right!? How complicated is the install? As I’m pretty sure none of the BMW dealers around me in NH install these.

[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by PsiAddict

I’m thinking of getting this for my 2021 M550i. This is just a piggyback right!? How complicated is the install? As I’m pretty sure none of the BMW dealers around me in NH install these.

Dinan has a new piggy back that replaced the V2 but produces the same results. If a little over $500. I think it has Bluetooth so you can mess with the tune from your phone. But it comes the no warranty for the car it's on.

I believe Dinan is also doing flash tunes too. Not sure where you are in NH, but pretty sure Tulley does Dinan. You could als come to my shop, Bavarian Performance Group in Winchester MA.

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by Joe-BMW33

Dinan has a new piggy back that replaced the V2 but produces the same results. If a little over $500. I think it has Bluetooth so you can mess with the tune from your phone. But it comes the no warranty for the car it's on.

I believe Dinan is also doing flash tunes too. Not sure where you are in NH, but pretty sure Tulley does Dinan. You could als come to my shop, Bavarian Performance Group in Winchester MA.

The Dinan Stage 1 would be the flash and Dinan X the piggyback, right?

[Kriz2fer]

Originally Posted by PsiAddict

I’m thinking of getting this for my 2021 M550i. This is just a piggyback right!? How complicated is the install? As I’m pretty sure none of the BMW dealers around me in NH install these.

Buy my race chip. Same thing as Dinan piggyback. In fact I think Dinan copied race chip.

[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by NGT2

The Dinan Stage 1 would be the flash and Dinan X the piggyback, right?

Yes

[Rocket455]

Originally Posted by NC M550 VADER

Had the Carbahn tune done by BMW of Southpoint in Durham, NC last week while I was out of town. Picked the car up and my god, it is an absolute monster now. My 2018 M550i has been transformed into the beast that has always lurked beneath the surface, I highly recommend this mod if you've been thinking about it.

Happy New Year, Y'all!

Same sentiment when I had the CarBahn Stage 1 done on my 2020 M340i; the transformation is just insane, couldn't be happier.

Just one thing to be wary of: any OTA will remove the tune! Neither the BMW dealership that installed the tune nor CarBahn gave me any sort of heads up on this, and it was pretty disappointing when I discovered this on my own. They re-did the tune, but I still had to spend the time and shipping costs for the DME to be sent to CarBahn again. Even though we have different cars, I'm sure the OTA would affect your M550i that same way it did my M340i.

[23109VC]

Originally Posted by Rocket455

Same sentiment when I had the CarBahn Stage 1 done on my 2020 M340i; the transformation is just insane, couldn't be happier.

Just one thing to be wary of: any OTA will remove the tune! Neither the BMW dealership that installed the tune nor CarBahn gave me any sort of heads up on this, and it was pretty disappointing when I discovered this on my own. They re-did the tune, but I still had to spend the time and shipping costs for the DME to be sent to CarBahn again. Even though we have different cars, I'm sure the OTA would affect your M550i that same way it did my M340i.

How is your carbahn tune going ? No issues?

I keep thinking of doing a tune..ther is a shop 5 min from my house that is a carbahn dealer and can flash my M550.

I may flash my x5 - it's way off warranty - so I'll
Give it a try …

Carbahn is a flash? Correct ? What are real world gains on a 2018? Assuming everything else stock?

[tjohnson]

I installed the RaceChip piggyback a few weeks ago. Noticeable difference, even on the middle setting. I also just noticed they provide a 2 year motor warranty (up to $10,000) at no extra charge.

They are claiming +60hp and +120 torque.

[BMW012]

Originally Posted by tjohnson

I installed the RaceChip piggyback a few weeks ago. Noticeable difference, even on the middle setting. I also just noticed they provide a 2 year motor warranty (up to $10,000) at no extra charge.

They are claiming +60hp and +120 torque.

How much and whats the installation process like?

[tjohnson]

The cost is around $700 (with the Bluetooth option). Installation takes about 30 minutes and does require removing the air intake/filter boot on each side. They have a video and pics showing the process.

[2bmichael]

Originally Posted by NC M550 VADER

Had the Carbahn tune done by BMW of Southpoint in Durham, NC last week while I was out of town. Picked the car up and my god, it is an absolute monster now. My 2018 M550i has been transformed into the beast that has always lurked beneath the surface, I highly recommend this mod if you've been thinking about it.

Happy New Year, Y'all!

I just got mine done and I. An not tell the difference whatsoever. Do you think installer screwed me somehow?

[G30M]

Originally Posted by NC M550 VADER

Got any numbers? How much did they add?

HP goes to 698, Torque to 702. These are the specs quoted by Carbahn on 93 octane



I will look into this.[/QUOTE]

Liqui Moly!

do they do tele tunes across the globe?!

[Dasky_spas]

Originally Posted by 2bmichael

I just got mine done and I. An not tell the difference whatsoever. Do you think installer screwed me somehow?

You ever get this sorted? I'm (one again) torn between bm3, carbahn, RK Tunes, or active autowerke. DME tuning has good reviews but they're just so over priced for similar results.

Does bm3 prevent check engine light or engine codes from showing up?