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      03-15-2015, 07:51 PM   #1
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Any Dyno's with stock turbo on 100% E85?

Looking to do the shotgun HPFP upgrade (already have stage 2 LPFP) and run e60, but was curious if the car will make a lot more power on 100% E85? I made 435/482 whp on the E60 content Map7.

Thanks for any help! I searched the dyne thread to try and see anyone on this.
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I would suggest adding meth when going with 100% e85 to help your hpfp demands. U might not see much gains though from going from e60 to 100% on stock turbos. Maybe 5-10hp, and that's if your hpfp can keep up
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Looking to do the shotgun HPFP upgrade (already have stage 2 LPFP) and run e60, but was curious if the car will make a lot more power on 100% E85? I made 435/482 whp on the E60 content Map7.

Thanks for any help! I searched the dyne thread to try and see anyone on this.
Maximum power is archive on E60-E65 running any more Ethanol content will not yield more power but will just stress the fuel system components further
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Maximum power is archive on E60-E65 running any more Ethanol content will not yield more power but will just stress the fuel system components further
Documentation to back this up?

Anyone successfully running 100% E85
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Documentation to back this up?

Anyone successfully running 100% E85
I've heard this many times from various members who've tried to find more power with more E85, there seems to be a point where anything past E70 doesn't seem to make any more power.

It seems like that is where MBT is achieved.
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I have actually. e90 335i 6 speed.

Jb4 Map 7, e85 BB flash, DCI, DP, 255 inline, NGK5992, Full e85.

Made 465whp 473wtq Dynojet.

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I have actually. e90 335i 6 speed.

Jb4 Map 7, e85 BB flash, DCI, DP, 255 inline, NGK5992, Full e85.

Made 465whp 473wtq Dynojet.

What did the vehicle make on E70 VS Full E85?
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What did the vehicle make on E70 VS Full E85?
No Idea LOL. This was the only dyno with stock turbos I did. After that is when I went single.
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I've heard this many times from various members who've tried to find more power with more E85, there seems to be a point where anything past E70 doesn't seem to make any more power.

It seems like that is where MBT is achieved.
The trade-off is convenience. It's much easier to just pull up to the pump and put in E85 than it is to mix to E60
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No Idea LOL. This was the only dyno with stock turbos I did. After that is when I went single.
I apolgoize, I thought the point of the vid was to show answer the debate on E60/E70 VS Full E85.

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The trade-off is convenience. It's much easier to just pull up to the pump and put in E85 than it is to mix to E60
I hear ya, I don't even have E85 in my area
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Could look at a higher quality dyno graph, and Stock vs. 93 vs E85 numbers on the Bren Tuning dyno database: http://www.brentuning.com/dyno-database
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Could look at a higher quality dyno graph, and Stock vs. 93 vs E85 numbers on the Bren Tuning dyno database: http://www.brentuning.com/dyno-database
Thats nice to see i already made 432/486 so unless I'm yielding 500trq. I won't go above e60!Q
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Thats nice to see i already made 432/486 so unless I'm yielding 500trq. I won't go above e60!Q
Different dynos, different numbers... Best comparisons are deltas and then numbers (1/4 mile, 60-130, etc. etc.).
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Different dynos, different numbers... Best comparisons are deltas and then numbers (1/4 mile, 60-130, etc. etc.).
Gotcha. Thanks!
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