[constantin_md]

I am in the process of buying new aftermarket audio and replacing the radio and the logic 7 audio in my e92.
After doing some research, I ordered a pair of New Focal ps 130f ($255), JBL p560c ($87) and 2 x sws-8x ($221)
What 5 channel D amp would be great for this setup that could fit in the oem amp location ?
All the options i know of, like Alpine pdx-v9 pdr-v75 JL 700/5 are either too expensive or hard to find in used condition. Alpine mrx-v70 seems nice and affordable but it won't fit.
What about arc audio xdi 805 ?

[Technic]

So you are going to cut your door panels and have about 1/2" of the speaker coming out?

Originally Posted by constantin_md

I am in the process of buying new aftermarket audio and replacing the radio and the logic 7 audio in my e92.
After doing some research, I ordered a pair of New Focal ps 130f ($255), JBL p560c ($87) and 2 x sws-8x ($221)
What 5 channel D amp would be great for this setup that could fit in the oem amp location ?
All the options i know of, like Alpine pdx-v9 pdr-v75 JL 700/5 are either too expensive or hard to find in used condition. Alpine mrx-v70 seems nice and affordable but it won't fit.
What about arc audio xdi 805 ?

[ctuna]

There is a speakers that fit section in the following thread

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=641323

[kaigoss69]

Originally Posted by Technic

So you are going to cut your door panels and have about 1/2" of the speaker coming out?

They can go loose on the rear deck, 80's style.

[mathematics]

do a Helix PP82 dsp/amp combo

[constantin_md]

Originally Posted by Technic

So you are going to cut your door panels and have about 1/2" of the speaker coming out?

I'm going to cut the panels. I will probably cut the foam padding that covers the door too.
I really hoped they wouldn't stick out. I've seen a guy on this forum install alpine spr-50c in e92 without them sticking out. The focals are only 0.12' more, top mounting depth.

[constantin_md]

Originally Posted by ctuna

There is a speakers that fit section in the following thread

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=641323

Thank You! But i already got the speakers. I know i should have bought the focal 100kr like everyone here did, but then those who did install them are not that happy with the midrange. And for $600 a pair, that's unacceptable.

[constantin_md]

Originally Posted by mathematics

do a Helix PP82 dsp/amp combo

Looks like a badass amp, but that's out of my $200-$350 price range.
I already spent about $1100 on the rest of the equipment and my spending budget would be ideally $1400 total.

[constantin_md]

Is arcaudio xdi805 or ppi p900.5 a good option for my speakers?
I think both amps are around 80db s/n and both speakers are 91db s/n
Would this choice of amps affect sound quality?

[constantin_md]

i finally found locally a mint jl xd700/5 for $300 . The hertz hdp5 i also found was over my budget at $370

so far i bought
metra 95-9306B double din kit - $21.98
Parts Express 12 VDC 5-Pin Relay Socket - $3.10
Absolute RLS125 12-VCD Automotive Relay SPDT 30/40A - $3.89
GTMAT 10sqft 50mil - $18.99
knukonceptz kit + knukonceptz 20ft 4 channgel rca - $67.47
Pioneer AVH-x5700bhs - $339
steering adapter metra aswc-1 - $45
hand brake video bypass - $10.48
trunk handle reverse camera - $29
Metra 40-EU10 antenna adapter - $4.50
earthquake subwoofers adapters - $6.46 (used)
monoprice 6ft 3.5mm - $3.50
earthquake sws-8x x2 - $221.27
fuse tap mini - $4.29
Metra 70-9003 harness - $4.25
Focal ps 130f - $255
JBL P560C - $87
JL XD700/5 - $300 (used)
$1417

I hope i can sell later the stock speakers, amp , radio , bluetooth, brackets , grills... for about $1200

[mathematics]

you keep mentioning speaker s/n figures and that doesn't make sense. are you talking about speaker sensitivity? while we are at it, 80dB s/n ratio on an amp is horrible.

[constantin_md]

You are right, i got confused.
I thought the speakers have also s/n like on the amp.

[mathematics]

the dB number for an amp measures signal to noise ratio...a measure of sound quality. the speaker's sensitivity just tells you how much more output you'd get between similar drivers with different sensitivity numbers. 3dB represents 1/2 power. so a speaker at 50 watts with 91db efficiency will sound twice as loud as a speaker with 50 watts that has 88dB efficiency.

[dan the man]

Keep in mind you will need to sell the Focal ps 130f unless spend some money and time to custom build some new door panels. You will have hard time to fit these Focals in E92 Coupe front doors

Originally Posted by constantin_md

I hope i can sell later the stock speakers, amp , radio , bluetooth, brackets , grills... for about $1200

[constantin_md]

Originally Posted by mathematics

the dB number for an amp measures signal to noise ratio...a measure of sound quality. the speaker's sensitivity just tells you how much more output you'd get between similar drivers with different sensitivity numbers. 3dB represents 1/2 power. so a speaker at 50 watts with 91db efficiency will sound twice as loud as a speaker with 50 watts that has 88dB efficiency.

I didn't know the speaker sensitivity makes such a difference. Thanks!

[constantin_md]

Originally Posted by dan the man

Keep in mind you will need to sell the Focal ps 130f unless spend some money and time to custom build some new door panels. You will have hard time to fit these Focals in E92 Coupe front doors

this guy here didn't need to custom build anything.
focal have only 0.12'' more top mounting depth




I know it doesn't look great, but it should sound awesome.
If my car was new i would have never done such install

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=757290



This is my old, sold e90 install:

[dan the man]

The Alpine SPR-50c 5 1/4 in the picture are 57mm (2.25in) top mount depth. Your PS 130F are 61.5mm top mount dept. We are talking about an extra 4.5mm. Check the list ctuna added. And I believe that guy with Alpine speakers has hard time to move the windows.

Originally Posted by constantin_md

this guy here didn't need to custom build anything.
focal have only 0.12'' more top mounting depth




I know it doesn't look great, but it should sound awesome.
If my car was new i would have never done such install

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=757290



This is my old, sold e90 install:

[constantin_md]

Originally Posted by dan the man

The Alpine SPR-50c 5 1/4 in the picture are 57mm (2.25in) top mount depth. Your PS 130F are 61.5mm top mount dept. We are talking about an extra 4.5mm. Check the list ctuna added. And I believe that guy with Alpine speakers has hard time to move the windows.

Ouch, i feared they might not fit as easy as on e90.
What if i add a spacer?
Also, do you know a easy way of cutting the door panels cut out diameter for 5.25'' speakers ?
Last time i did it on e90 with a hacksaw blade and it was a pain...

[ctuna]

There are now a lot more BMW direct fit no hassle three ways.
(Under seat and door combo's)
There are no really cheap ones though .
Jehnert , Gladen/Helix , MBquart, and Focal .
People use to use diamond audio and DLS (I think)
I don't see those come up much anymore must have been discontinued.
The point is the Focals are not the only thing that fits.

[dan the man]

E92 doors are 5-7mm shallower than E90 so it will be harder this time. Spacers will solve the mounting issue but will look really bad.

Originally Posted by constantin_md

Ouch, i feared they might not fit as easy as on e90.
What if i add a spacer?
Also, do you know a easy way of cutting the door panels cut out diameter for 5.25'' speakers ?
Last time i did it on e90 with a hacksaw blade and it was a pain...

[constantin_md]

Originally Posted by ctuna

There are now a lot more BMW direct fit no hassle three ways.
(Under seat and door combo's)
There are no really cheap ones though .
Jehnert , Gladen/Helix , MBquart, and Focal .
People use to use diamond audio and DLS (I think)
I don't see those come up much anymore must have been discontinued.
The point is the Focals are not the only thing that fits.

Thanks, but those are either more than i can afford, or not the quality i want

On the link you gave me i found:
"Reportedly, e92 & e93 front doors have only about 43 mm mounting depth, measured from the grille side of the speaker adapter.
E90 doors have roughly 50 mm depth."

I top mounted the spr-50c with 57mm depth on e90 with no windows open close issues.
I'm wondering if the measurements were made up to the foam padding or to the window ? There was about 10-15mm more depth when foam padding was removed on e90

[constantin_md]

Originally Posted by dan the man

E92 doors are 5-7mm shallower than E90 so it will be harder this time. Spacers will solve the mounting issue but will look really bad.

Hopefully not as bad as my e90 was The right door speaker grill bent the dashboard a bit because of it's form, but no close door issues were present. I cut into the door handle up to the screw mount so there was no more space to work with.
The diameter between door handle and dashboard seems to be bigger on the right door of e92 compared to e90, so hopefully won't have this issue now.