belt snapped 3 times in a week

omgsorr · 03-19-2015, 03:22 PM

posted in my regional forums but looking for input from everyone. how common is this issue on n54 motors? I plan to go to a service advisor but doubt they can help me (08 335 123k miles)

any advice? I know it's a subframe issue rubbing on belt. just need to know my options.

CHECKERED · 03-19-2015, 03:37 PM

replace motor mounts...

Miko226 · 03-19-2015, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CHECKERED

replace motor mounts...

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Myrder · 03-19-2015, 04:06 PM

replace the mounts. But the "real" fix is to replace your subframe with an updated one. My friend had that done... $$$$

CHECKERED · 03-19-2015, 04:08 PM

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But the "real" fix is to replace your subframe with an updated one. My friend had that done... $$$$

its probably cheaper to sell the car and buy a lower mileage one...

omgsorr · 03-19-2015, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Myrder

replace the mounts. But the "real" fix is to replace your subframe with an updated one. My friend had that done... $$$$

assuming updated subframe would be lci ones? doubt they sell old ones still.

Jeef · 03-19-2015, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Myrder

But the "real" fix is to replace your subframe with an updated one. My friend had that done... $$$$

its probably cheaper to sell the car and buy a lower mileage one...

I don't think subframes cost as much as the car haha

omgsorr · 03-19-2015, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeef

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Originally Posted by CHECKERED

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Originally Posted by Myrder

But the "real" fix is to replace your subframe with an updated one. My friend had that done... $$$$

its probably cheaper to sell the car and buy a lower mileage one...

I don't think subframes cost as much as the car haha

been looking and seems like a few hundred bucks. labor costs is where I'll get butt hurt I think.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 03-19-2015, 04:52 PM

Motor mounts, new sub frame or cut a notch out of the sub frame (not recommended).

omgsorr · 03-19-2015, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

Motor mounts, new sub frame or cut a notch out of the sub frame (not recommended).

considered slight shaving until I find a decent priced subframe. not gonna cut a notch.

03-19-2015, 05:03 PM

Does anyone have pics comparing "old" and "new" subframes? I've yet to see evidence that a newer version exists (no superseded part numbers, etc.)

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 03-19-2015, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by omgsorr

considered slight shaving until I find a decent priced subframe. not gonna cut a notch.

For liability reasons I can't recommend it but I'd probably do the same, at least temporarily.

NightStalker · 03-19-2015, 07:23 PM

Are the motor mounts similar to the transmission mounts?

Is this a labor intensive job?

sirdaft1 · 03-19-2015, 09:43 PM

Do the motor mounts. I had 135k on my original mounts and they were wornnn. It should take care of it for you.

NA55 · 03-19-2015, 10:42 PM

try upgrading your engine and transmission mounts..

robc1976 · 03-19-2015, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CHECKERED

its probably cheaper to sell the car and buy a lower mileage one...

$587.00 fix, 1 hour to put subframe in, its actually not that hard.

Nitrousbird · 03-20-2015, 06:28 AM

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$587.00 fix, 1 hour to put subframe in, its actually not that hard.

Previous owner of mine had it done. Receipt I have (from a BMW dealer) was $2600.

I know I wouldn't have paid that to have it fixed and would have done it myself.

As for the OP, I'd start with motor mounts and if that doesn't fix it, pull the subframe and grind down on that area for clearance.

omgsorr · 03-20-2015, 07:45 AM

Thanks everyone. This has been bugging me a bit now. Actually fix my cars CEL problem and once engine runs fine all the torque causes it to rub now. Great.

ts335i07 · 03-20-2015, 07:58 AM

My motor mounts were noticeably worn at 65k, check your thermostat connector as well for damage, that usually gets damaged before kicking the belt...

03-20-2015, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by omgsorr

Thanks everyone. This has been bugging me a bit now. Actually fix my cars CEL problem and once engine runs fine all the torque causes it to rub now. Great.

Huh? What's rubbing?

You might have accidentally the whole thing.

omgsorr · 03-20-2015, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by omgsorr

Thanks everyone. This has been bugging me a bit now. Actually fix my cars CEL problem and once engine runs fine all the torque causes it to rub now. Great.

Huh? What's rubbing?

You might have accidentally the whole thing.

its rubbing under heavy torque, havnt pulled it apart get but its pretty obvious.

The Convert · 03-20-2015, 09:27 AM

Have you replaced the pulleys? Most people who have had your issue noticed damaged pulleys.

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