[Shonky]

Hi

In the coding forum you'll see I have messed up my DME (MSV80) with the wrong firmware due to a failed flash. However I'm having trouble trying to find the original firmware version OR trying to find out what should be the upgraded version.

Does anyone here have a 323i with the 140kW engine (mine's a 10/2007 build but should be from 09/2007 onwards) and a working WinKFP setup? It seems the 323i is a bit of a strange one with not a lot of versions elsewhere in the world.

If so could you tell me what ZB Nr you are running and what WinKFP suggests as an upgrade if any? The current version running can also be read in INPA. I can provide exact instructions if necessary but if you have it all setup and working I suspect you'll already know what to do

Thanks anyone who can help.

[vtl]

If you have the part number for your ECU (need to look at the label on the DME) I believe it is possible to figure out which ZB numbers are compatible with your car by opening the *.PRG files with a text editor

[Shonky]

I have checked the label and have the original ZB number (you can read it via INPA too).

12MVS80.PRG is a binary file. Is that the file you mean?

Edit: It looks somewhat encrypted, but it seems to be a basic XOR with 0xF7. I found a post saying the same thing, so I'll knock something up to XOR it and see if it makes any more sense.

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Great to know we have some techies in AU.

Already knew vtl was a propeller head though :P

[Shonky]

Yeah XOR with 0xf7 "decrypts" it but there's nothing there that I can see that helps me unfortunately.

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With my limited knowledge in this, i was under the assumption that if you recovered your DME that it would restore it back to defaults anyway?

If you do need help, PM me as i have a contact in coding.

[Shonky]

Well not exactly recovered. A flash upgrade I tried to do failed. I managed to "restore" it by picking a version that matched my hardware. It was not the original nor the upgrade though. I didn't manage to keep a record of what the failed flash was upgrading to. It's 95% working albeit throwing a few codes and is a slightly down on power. If I could restore it from built in code I would, but I don't think that's possible.

I'd like to restore it to the original firmware or if someone can tell me which firmware / maps they are running (i.e. the ZB number) I can pick that and program mine with that. At least then I know I have the right version. It's not a coding issue and really needs access to a car with the same engine variant, hence this request.

Problem thread is here:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=18574652

[vtl]

According to the error codes, looks like you may have flashed a firmware for an N52 with a DISA manifold (its a trick intake manifold with valves and stuff for more power). Surely this is a great time to get the manifold for an upgrade in power . Sorry not that helpful. Obviously it would be easier if someone had a 323i and INPA setup haha. I think the number of people in Oz who tinkers with this stuff is quite small and most of them are probably lurkers that aren't actively posting, and on top of that they're probably not driving a 323i.

I will do some digging in the OPA files when I get home, when you look at them in a text editor its just an intel hex file and some comments at the top including the date and author and what DME type it is for. I know for N54/MSD81 the correct type is IJEOS for so its pretty easy to tell which ones are compatible. If you don't know the relavent code thing for a 323i its a bit harder and I cant remember if it said the kW in the comments or not.

I'll also look for your ZBnumbers but I am on version 55 and I probably don't have the older OPAs in there. When I flashed my FLA mirror there was only 1 ZBnumber listed and the existing ZBnumber wasn't listed. Shame ALL the versions aren't included

Originally Posted by _ink

Great to know we have some techies in AU.

Already knew vtl was a propeller head though :P

I would totally trust these guys to code my car:

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Originally Posted by vtl

According to the error codes, looks like you may have flashed a firmware for an N52 with a DISA manifold (its a trick intake manifold with valves and stuff for more power). Surely this is a great time to get the manifold for an upgrade in power . Sorry not that helpful. Obviously it would be easier if someone had a 323i and INPA setup haha. I think the number of people in Oz who tinkers with this stuff is quite small and most of them are probably lurkers that aren't actively posting, and on top of that they're probably not driving a 323i.

I will do some digging in the OPA files when I get home, when you look at them in a text editor its just an intel hex file and some comments at the top including the date and author and what DME type it is for. I know for N54/MSD81 the correct type is IJEOS for so its pretty easy to tell which ones are compatible. If you don't know the relavent code thing for a 323i its a bit harder and I cant remember if it said the kW in the comments or not.

I'll also look for your ZBnumbers but I am on version 55 and I probably don't have the older OPAs in there. When I flashed my FLA mirror there was only 1 ZBnumber listed and the existing ZBnumber wasn't listed. Shame ALL the versions aren't included



I would totally trust these guys to code my car:

I've read about these manifolds, 3 valve or something that give more powwaaaaa!!! Should definitely take this as a sign to upgrade mate!!

haha, those are pretend propeller heads!!

[Shonky]

Thanks for the insight. Who knows what I actually flashed . I was surprised how well it worked. Wife didn't even notice the difference driving it... I won't be spending money on new manifolds for a 323i. Should have just spent the extra for a 335i but oh well.

Unfortunately all the MSV80 0da and 0pa files are missing any details like engine power that might help identify which one to pick. I just found that today

What I "might" know is that there is a code that looks similar to what you mention (IJEOS). I have this code from the old version - 0049QK0MG10S. Is that the sort of thing? The data files I have all refer to 0049QK0MI20S or similar the main difference being the 10 vs 20. The version I flashed is 0049QK0MI20S.

[Shonky]

I found your IJE0S code (note that's a zero not an O ) in the MSD81 firmwares.

My equivalent is MG10S originally and what I flashed is MI20S. There are multiple versions though so still not sure what to pick.

[vtl]

Originally Posted by Shonky

Thanks for the insight. Who knows what I actually flashed . I was surprised how well it worked. Wife didn't even notice the difference driving it... I won't be spending money on new manifolds for a 323i. Should have just spent the extra for a 335i but oh well.

Unfortunately all the MSV80 0da and 0pa files are missing any details like engine power that might help identify which one to pick. I just found that today

What I "might" know is that there is a code that looks similar to what you mention (IJEOS). I have this code from the old version - 0049QK0MG10S. Is that the sort of thing? The data files I have all refer to 0049QK0MI20S or similar the main difference being the 10 vs 20. The version I flashed is 0049QK0MI20S.

Yeah I wasn't 100% sure but yeah I think the only description was the IJEOS code that is common knowledge in N54 bin file tuning/flashing. Yes that is the code I am referring to, on an n54 *.opa I think the full string is XXXXIJE0SXXX, I'll confirm when I get home.

EDIT: Ah beat me to it haha

[vtl]

FYI MI20S is an n52 328i flash according to my google fu. I couldnt find any of the zbnumbers from your thread in my installation. Couldnt find MG10S in my MSV80 folder either.

[Socket]

Originally Posted by _ink

Great to know we have some techies in AU.

Already knew vtl was a propeller head though :P

The man is a wizard

[Shonky]

Originally Posted by vtl

FYI MI20S is an n52 328i flash according to my google fu. I couldnt find any of the zbnumbers from your thread in my installation. Couldnt find MG10S in my MSV80 folder either.

Yeah. All the original numbers and codes I have are seemingly non existent in all the data sets I have (now v32, v41, v48 and v54)

Now that I understand those particular 5 characters are used I see that's the difference. Surprised it really runs that well.

Like I said the 323i is/was a bit of a rare one worldwide so there won't be too many around and therefore not too many people working with them which makes it difficult.

[Shonky]

Mostly fixed now. Just need to code DME it seems. See other thread for a long winded story...

[vtl]

Originally Posted by Shonky

Mostly fixed now. Just need to code DME it seems. See other thread for a long winded story...

Good to hear you got the car running properly, looks like you really had to dig through the install to find out the correct zb number!

The no coding issue will probably be a bit annoying to fix though. You certainly can't code a DME with NCSExpert. The only time I have heard about a 2FA3 error is when people are playing around with flashing an N54s and a slightly wrong BIN was flashed. I think the one you flashed is probably a very close match to your engine but could be a slightly different variant.

[Shonky]

Ah OK that doesn't sound great. Yeah I'm still not 100% sure it's the right one, but there is an traceable upgrade path in the history files from whats listed for my VW52 to what I have now (but not from the sticker on my DME).

I *could* just run through them all but given the troubles I've had I probably won't. I would want to get rid of the coding error though if I can.

[Shonky]

If anyone's reading I'm still looking for anyone with a specific E9x with the 140kW 2.5l 6 cyclinder engine (VW52 would be ideal). If you're in Brisbane and willing I could do a read myself in exchange for a carton or something.