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      11-08-2015, 05:16 PM   #1
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Question Clutch pedal won't disengage cruise control

Every manual BMW I've owned, heck, every manual car I've ever owned has always disengaged the cruise when I depress the clutch. Is this something new for the E9* or do I have a faulty switch?
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      11-08-2015, 05:21 PM   #2
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mine does the same.
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I was really hoping you weren't gonna say that.
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      11-08-2015, 05:57 PM   #4
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Are you upshifting while in cruise? That just sounds weird. I generally hit the brake before touching the clutch while in cruise. Come to think of it, even when I want to pass someone, I tend to tap the brake before dropping down a gear while in cruise.

So, I guess it's driving style. I havent noticed this in the 5 years I've had the car. To be fair, there's rarely an open road where I live that would allow me to cruise for all that long without traffic ruining it.
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You're right. Throttle resumes when you release the clutch.
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      11-08-2015, 06:53 PM   #6
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There should be a delay where it will hold revs for you to shift. If after a second or two you don't then it will disengage, revs will drop and show you a cruise control error.

At least that's what mine does.
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There should be a delay where it will hold revs for you to shift. If after a second or two you don't then it will disengage, revs will drop and show you a cruise control error.

At least that's what mine does.
Yup, it's setup so you can gear up or down while in cruise control.
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That's normal. I've had other manuals that were the same way.
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      11-08-2015, 09:24 PM   #9
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From the '07 on line manual:

"Manual transmission
You can shift gears while cruise control is activated.
An indicator lamp notifies you that you
should shift gears when you drive for an
extended period at very high or very low engine
speeds, or the system is deactivated."

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      11-08-2015, 10:12 PM   #10
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You're right. Throttle resumes when you release the clutch.
Yep. My Nissan cancels the cruise when the clutch is depressed. Usually, it is happy.

The 335i does NOT. Normal.
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That's normal. I've had other manuals that were the same way.
Normal? How so? Every BMW until this generation has disengaged cruise with the clutch. And please give examples of your other manuals that have been this way. Who needs to shift while in cruise anyways? Cruise control isn't for driving, it's for cruising.

Also, I prefer not to hit the brakes on the highway. Brake lights cause a commotion because people think you're actually stopping for something. It's quite aggravating when a car up ahead hits the brakes for no reason and causes the traffic directly in front of me to slow down.
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you can simply press cruise stalk up or down and cruise will be disabled
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Normal? How so? Every BMW until this generation has disengaged cruise with the clutch. And please give examples of your other manuals that have been this way. Who needs to shift while in cruise anyways? Cruise control isn't for driving, it's for cruising.

Also, I prefer not to hit the brakes on the highway. Brake lights cause a commotion because people think you're actually stopping for something. It's quite aggravating when a car up ahead hits the brakes for no reason and causes the traffic directly in front of me to slow down.
Since you know how it works, have confirmed that's how it's designed, wouldn't the solution be to not use cruise control if you don't like the way it functions? No need to overthink it.
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you can simply press cruise stalk up or down and cruise will be disabled
That's too logical. Maybe he doesn't like the brake pedal, stalks of any kind, and only wants the clutch to cancel the cruise? I think the answer he wants is that his car is faulty.
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Hold it down for about 10-15 seconds and it will disengage. The E9X holds the engine RPM so you can upshift. When you hold the clutch down for too long, cruise control disengages. Tap the stalk up or down to turn off cruise control.
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      11-09-2015, 09:01 AM   #16
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On my 2011 E91, when you push in the clutch pedal (while CC is active), the RPMs drop, but the CC stays on. If you let out on the clutch, the car resumes to the set speed.

The only manual vehicle I owned before didn't have CC so I'm not really sure what the "standard" operation would be.

TBH, I would have expected cruise control to disengage when you touch the brake or the clutch.
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Normal? How so? Every BMW until this generation has disengaged cruise with the clutch.
Agreed. I have had multiple BMWs with MT and cruise control (my most recent was an E46 that I finally sold in 2013 for my current E90). The clutch pedal in all prior BMWs did cause the CC to be cancelled when you pushed the clutch in.

The E90 broke the pattern of prior years in a number of areas
  • clutch effect on CC
  • center vent no longer admits only outside air (E90 prewarms it)
  • 12V outlets all shut off with ignition off
  • no spare tire
  • no dipstick
  • almost no tools, not even a crank to manually close your moonroof!
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I agree with OP, every other manual car I've ever driven (BMW or not) has disengaged the cruise when the clutch is used. I think the E9x is in the minority with it's behaviour.

It's kind of a neat feature to keep it engaged for quick clutch use, for example to downshift when going up a big hill to more easily maintain constant speed. Or in my case, putting it in 6th when you've been cruising for a while in 5th and then eventually remember this car has one more gear than you've ever had in any other vehicle...
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someone explain to me what happens then when you press it? Does it maintain the revs?
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someone explain to me what happens then when you press it? Does it maintain the revs?
No, they just pick right back up again when you release the clutch pedal.

I'm on my second E9x with an MT, and I can't remember how my old E46 with an MT dealt with cruise control. But flicking down the stalk to turn off cruise control has long since become second nature. That stalk is how you turn it on to begin with after all.
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Since you know how it works, have confirmed that's how it's designed, wouldn't the solution be to not use cruise control if you don't like the way it functions? No need to overthink it.
Not use it? That's a very childish approach to a very substantial feature.

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That's too logical. Maybe he doesn't like the brake pedal, stalks of any kind, and only wants the clutch to cancel the cruise? I think the answer he wants is that his car is faulty.
The answer I was hoping for is that the clutch switch was faulty. Then it would be an easy fix. I also already explained why it's a bad thing to hit your brakes on the highway.

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That stalk is how you turn it on to begin with after all.
"That stalk" was pushed to turn it on, it's counter-intuitive to flick it up or down to turn it off.
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"That stalk" was pushed to turn it on, it's counter-intuitive to flick it up or down to turn it off
This is why they changed it back in the F3X. No one liked it. I don't even use the right side of my steering wheel: what's the point of a recirculation button on the steering wheel anyway? Maybe they were trying to copy Porsche's cruise control. I'll give it to BMW there: it's a lot better than Porsche's. You have no idea if it's even on or not, and you need to hold the stalk for 1-2 seconds before anything happens.

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someone explain to me what happens then when you press it? Does it maintain the revs?
It matches the revs required for the next gear up. It seems that the ECU is preprogrammed to know what the next gear's revs should be, even though it doesn't know what gear it's in. It must be a function of speed. If you press in the clutch and slow down, the revs drop with speed. It's a great feature in slow moving traffic.

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