[Armadyllo]

Just got the car back from mechanics with everything now installed, car is going nicely running JB4 map 2, I’m liking the sound and the new found power.

Now it’s time to maximise those goodies and get a custom tune.

I know I’ll get max power if I go down the Ethanol path, but it’s my daily driver and really can’t be bothered blending fuels on a weekly basis.

So I need a tune to suit 98 petrol only, I’ve been reading a little on here about the MHD tune and have also heard a few of you mention Trebila who utilizes the JB4 (I think), but I am not set up
to flash my car and to be honest I find that side of things a little daunting. In saying that I will do what’s required for the desired outcome.

It would be handy if I could take the car to someone local to look after but I may not get the best results this way.

I guess the question is, am I better of getting a local dyno tune or going with Trebila or MHD ?

List of Mods to date
JB4
VRSF FMIC
VRSF CP
VRSF Catless DP's
New Hybrid turbos / Hi Flowed
Turbo smart DV’s
Air Intake
RB PCV
Koni FSD’s
M3 Rear subframe bushes

Thanks

Dyll

[timot]

No catless DPs? I think you need those for FBO status haha.

But seriously, just pump in about 20L of E85 and switch JB4 to Map 7 and you will go flying. Map 5 is cool but Map 7 is nek level.
At least until you find a proper custom tune

[Armadyllo]

Originally Posted by timot

No catless DPs? I think you need those for FBO status haha.

But seriously, just pump in about 20L of E85 and switch JB4 to Map 7 and you will go flying. Map 5 is cool but Map 7 is nek level.
At least until you find a proper custom tune

Hey mate forgot those of the list, VRSF catless DP's.

Really ? is that safe without any other changes ?

Sounds fun.

I think there is a free JB4 flash but I could be guessin here

[tawfeeqh]

Some sort of custom tuning would benefit you the most. These days most people are moving towards either flash only (COBB, MHD) then getting a remote custom tune done by Wedge Performance or ProTuning Freaks. Guys are also running stacked JB4 + Backend flash (BMS or MHD) setups as well with good results.

In terms of local dyno tune you will need to find a tuner that either uses COBB ATR or ATP software to tune vehicle (you will need a COBB AP) OR TunerPro which is what is used with MHD type flashes. Other software can also be used however you won't have the ability to switch maps, log/ monitor etc features that COBB and MHD have

Pros/ Cons exist for both remote and local dyno tune so it just depends on the individual. Remote tune you'll have to provide 3rd/ 4th gear logs of your car. It may take 5 to 6 iterations to get car dialed in. Advantage of remote tune is that the US tuners are quite experienced with this platform so can get really good results. Local tuners may not be as experienced with our platform, however you could still get a good results with a good tuner the "traditional" way using a dyno. Means you don't need to provide logs etc. Finally remote tune prob cheaper than local

Where are you located by the way?

[bmwheath]

Originally Posted by timot

No catless DPs? I think you need those for FBO status haha.

But seriously, just pump in about 20L of E85 and switch JB4 to Map 7 and you will go flying. Map 5 is cool but Map 7 is nek level.
At least until you find a proper custom tune

If your going to run map7 you will need alot more that 20ltrs per tank, from memory an E50 mix is about 35-36 liters of E85 per tank...
Once you go E85 you will never go back, unless your full blow gay as

[bmwheath]

If your just staying pump fuel on stock turbo's then just stick with map2 or map5, otherwise you really need some more octane

[tawfeeqh]

Originally Posted by bmwheath

If your just staying pump fuel on stock turbo's then just stick with map2 or map5, otherwise you really need some more octane

His got some sort of hybrid/ high flow turbos

[ATTN]

You're missing inlets for a complete FBOs... buy mine and get a custom tune by Trebila

[Armadyllo]

Originally Posted by tawfeeqh

Some sort of custom tuning would benefit you the most. These days most people are moving towards either flash only (COBB, MHD) then getting a remote custom tune done by Wedge Performance or ProTuning Freaks. Guys are also running stacked JB4 + Backend flash (BMS or MHD) setups as well with good results.

In terms of local dyno tune you will need to find a tuner that either uses COBB ATR or ATP software to tune vehicle (you will need a COBB AP) OR TunerPro which is what is used with MHD type flashes. Other software can also be used however you won't have the ability to switch maps, log/ monitor etc features that COBB and MHD have

Pros/ Cons exist for both remote and local dyno tune so it just depends on the individual. Remote tune you'll have to provide 3rd/ 4th gear logs of your car. It may take 5 to 6 iterations to get car dialed in. Advantage of remote tune is that the US tuners are quite experienced with this platform so can get really good results. Local tuners may not be as experienced with our platform, however you could still get a good results with a good tuner the "traditional" way using a dyno. Means you don't need to provide logs etc. Finally remote tune prob cheaper than local

Where are you located by the way?

Thanks Mate

I'm in Donvale (Near Doncaster / Ringwood)

[Armadyllo]

Originally Posted by bmwheath

If your just staying pump fuel on stock turbo's then just stick with map2 or map5, otherwise you really need some more octane

Is map 5 safe to use ? I've heard some people mention on the forums it can have problems

[Armadyllo]

Originally Posted by ATTN

You're missing inlets for a complete FBOs... buy mine and get a custom tune by Trebila

What sort of $$$ are you thinking and would they make much difference for the amount of work to install them ?

Trebila sounds good, does he utilize the JB4 ?

[Armadyllo]

Originally Posted by tawfeeqh

His got some sort of hybrid/ high flow turbos

Turbos have the lighter billet comp. wheel and clipped, apparently 20% more flow. I think thats similar to a stage 1 RB or Vargas (could be wrong though)

[tawfeeqh]

Originally Posted by Armadyllo

Turbos have the lighter billet comp. wheel and clipped, apparently 20% more flow. I think thats similar to a stage 1 RB or Vargas (could be wrong though)

Nice - did you get done locally? ATP?

[Armadyllo]

Originally Posted by tawfeeqh

Nice - did you get done locally? ATP?

Spot On tawfeeqh, Kyp does some nice work

[vtl]

Definitely want to get inlets to make the most of those higher flowing upgraded turbos.

If you haven't already I would probably recommend getting new plugs and walnut blast before custom tuning.

Will be interesting what you get on the dyno!

[Armadyllo]

Originally Posted by vtl

Definitely want to get inlets to make the most of those higher flowing upgraded turbos.

If you haven't already I would probably recommend getting new plugs and walnut blast before custom tuning.

Will be interesting what you get on the dyno!

Hey VTL

Thanks for the input, just had plugs and coils replaced, car has only done around 65k, do you think I should still get the walnut blasting done ?

I wanted to make it to the dyno day earlier in the year to get some post turbo fit figures before installing the rest of the kit but couldnt make it.

[vtl]

Originally Posted by Armadyllo

Hey VTL

Thanks for the input, just had plugs and coils replaced, car has only done around 65k, do you think I should still get the walnut blasting done ?

I wanted to make it to the dyno day earlier in the year to get some post turbo fit figures before installing the rest of the kit but couldnt make it.

Yeah would I would think it would be a good idea to blast it, especially if you are custom tuning it. You would want to dial the tune in on an engine with clean valves, not caked up ones.

Based on what I've seen, I'd recommend walnut blasting around the 50-60k mark. Depends on the car and type of driving but have seen cars with 60k on them with globs of buildup on the valves.

[Socket]

Originally Posted by Armadyllo

Just got the car back from mechanics with everything now installed, car is going nicely running JB4 map 2, I’m liking the sound and the new found power.

Now it’s time to maximise those goodies and get a custom tune.

I know I’ll get max power if I go down the Ethanol path, but it’s my daily driver and really can’t be bothered blending fuels on a weekly basis.

So I need a tune to suit 98 petrol only, I’ve been reading a little on here about the MHD tune and have also heard a few of you mention Trebila who utilizes the JB4 (I think), but I am not set up
to flash my car and to be honest I find that side of things a little daunting. In saying that I will do what’s required for the desired outcome.

It would be handy if I could take the car to someone local to look after but I may not get the best results this way.

I guess the question is, am I better of getting a local dyno tune or going with Trebila or MHD ?

List of Mods to date
JB4
VRSF FMIC
VRSF CP
VRSF Catless DP's
New Hybrid turbos / Hi Flowed
Turbo smart DV’s
Air Intake
RB PCV
Koni FSD’s
M3 Rear subframe bushes

Thanks

Dyll

MHD enuf said

[bmwheath]

Originally Posted by Armadyllo

Is map 5 safe to use ? I've heard some people mention on the forums it can have problems

Map5 adapts to your cars mod's, octane, IAT etc etc... Map 5 is perfectly safe, your car may just feel a bit quicker/slower depending on the conditions!
I ran a 12.4 quarter mile on map5 with E50 mix
Put it on map7 & some slicks and ran a 11.6 with E50 mix
Try Tribela if you want to go a custom tune

[bmwheath]

Also, if you havn't got Scrooops fitted then your not FBO yet lol

[Mayuri Krab]

You can get the MHD backed flash in conjunction with JB4 which will bump the boost level up in each of the different maps.

I recently got this, while outright power hasn't increased much, it made the car much more smoother to drive at low/moderate throttle compared to running on JB4 along, which were always a bit jerky at low/moderate acceleration.

Also make sure to do the euro MHD backend flash mod yourself to get rid of the annoy check engine light caused by flashing a straight us based bin file.

[Socket]

Originally Posted by bmwheath

Also, if you havn't got Scrooops fitted then your not FBO yet lol

OMG scoooops dats sooooo funny