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Cold Start Surging Idle - Resolved
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01-04-2016, 06:45 PM | #1 |
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Cold Start Surging Idle - Resolved
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Last summer the idle after cold start suddenly became erratic and 'surged', bouncing back and forth between 1 - 1.5k RPM, especially when the brake was pressed. The SES also lit. There were three codes: P2D16 - air mass meter signal P2D0F - air mass meter signal P2D5A - control motor torque limitation I checked vacuum, cleaned the injectors, and cleaned the MAF several times with CRC. The problem remained. I replaced the MAF with a new part. This solved the problem. The motor runs smooth as butter now, even immediately following cold starts. I haven't reset the SES yet, so will report back afterwards if the codes return. The new MAF looks different. Pic 1 is the bad sensor that was removed. The new part is OEM. It has a white plastic piece partially formed around the wire sensor. Makes me wonder if the white piece fell off into the intake manifold..... OEM MAF: https://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E91-32...nsors/ES34413/ Pic 1:
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01-05-2016, 07:24 AM | #3 |
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OP, please reset your codes and report back. My car has been presenting with similar symptoms and codes for months and I have not been able to resolve it. Not to discourage you, but I have changed my MAF sensor.
EDIT: Your old MAF does look really weird.
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01-05-2016, 09:45 AM | #4 |
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The MAF in the picture does look different from a new part.
This is how it looked when I removed it from the air box. I suspect that the white plastic part seen on new MAFs may have detached from mine, leaving the "nude" version seen above. Since installing a new sensor, the engine runs smoother than it ever has. Like silk. I cleared DTC codes last night and started the motor. The SES light hasn't returned. Will update if this changes. I also need to check inside the TB hose and intake manifold for the missing plastic bit.
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01-05-2016, 02:37 PM | #6 |
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The install happened two days ago, Jan 3. So no data to report.
I drove to the mountains yesterday, one hour each way, and the mpg indicates higher than normal (~20mpg), but this is to be expected for highway driving. The car runs extremely smooth now. I expect higher mpg. Will report back
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Outside: BMW M-Aero, Euro region lighting, Seibon | Inside: M3 cockpit, Recaro SPG, Prototipo, AutoSolutions SSK, UCP | Stop: M3 ST-40R, PFC | Grip: Solid-mounted subframes, rear coilover conversion, M3 Nitron R3, Hyperco, SPL, AKG, ARC8 | Go: StageFP, CF snorkel, 3IM, MILVs, SuperSprint headers, Dundon Motorsports Inconel exhaust, VoltPhreaks | Cool: CSF | PCA #2018100384 | BMW CCA #505794 |
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