install USB port glovebox

palumbo77 · 01-20-2016, 05:15 AM

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I did everything as described here (http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1108386) but the USB port is not working !!
Why ??

I have an entrynav

please help me

BimmerMad · 01-21-2016, 02:38 AM

Isn't that one for updates and diagnostics only?

rubber_ducky · 01-21-2016, 06:28 AM

Android or iOS? I assume that you coded your car for enhanced usb?

tboooe · 01-21-2016, 08:27 AM

I did this same mod and everything works fine. I have a 2TB hard drive in my glove box now where I play music and movies from.

Do you have the phone cradle option with the cradle in the center arm rest?

Fronzdan · 01-21-2016, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by rubber_ducky

Android or iOS? I assume that you coded your car for enhanced usb?

I suspect this is the issue. But the differences between entry Nav, enhanced USB, enhanced BT have always been unclear to me. I think if you used the right cable and they are fully connected, it should just work. I have an iPod Classic and my iPhone dock connected to the two ports.

What are you trying to connect to your new port and does it just never get recognized? Or does it sync, then unsync etc?

tbooe, btw, my HDD is just not reliable. I think I'll eventually need to go with the drive you used or go with an SSD. This is the one I pulled out of a laptop. More often than not, I have to manually disconnect/reconnect for it to come up. I really think there are current limitations on the port. I notice that if for whatever reason my ipod Classic has less than full battery, it freaks out both USB ports.

TePee · 01-21-2016, 11:55 AM

Are you sure the USB cable is properly connected regarding the pinouts?
As you have Entrynav and this HU has different connectors compared to NBT (which is shown in your linked thread) it could be possible that you have to connect your USB cable rotated by 180 degrees!

By the way: This USB socket you can disassable and then rotate the white part by 180 degrees - this is the easiest way.

tboooe · 01-21-2016, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Fronzdan

tbooe, btw, my HDD is just not reliable. I think I'll eventually need to go with the drive you used or go with an SSD. This is the one I pulled out of a laptop. More often than not, I have to manually disconnect/reconnect for it to come up. I really think there are current limitations on the port. I notice that if for whatever reason my ipod Classic has less than full battery, it freaks out both USB ports.

The one I used has been 100% stable. Never a problem with music or movies. I access it daily since I rarely listen to the radio. Price is not too bad for a 1TB or 2TB drive.

MSportTune2 · 01-21-2016, 05:40 PM

I did this retrofit few weeks ago. I have NBT professional and these are the parts I bought for my F30.

USB port : 84109229294
Cable : 6111925854

It's plug and play for me. I did not have to do any coding.

MSportTune2 · 01-21-2016, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tboooe

I did this same mod and everything works fine. I have a 2TB hard drive in my glove box now where I play music and movies from.

Do you have the phone cradle option with the cradle in the center arm rest?

When you plugged any device in the glovebox usb, it seem to me it overrides the one in the arm rest. Is this true?

tboooe · 01-21-2016, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MSportTune2

When you plugged any device in the glovebox usb, it seem to me it overrides the one in the arm rest. Is this true?

To be clear, there are essentially two USB connections in the arm rest. One that is actually a USB port and another that is part of the phone cradle. It is the cradle USB that we are moving to the glovebox.

That being said, I am able to plug devices into both USB ports and they both show up on my iDrive screen. I am able to choose which USB device I want to play media from.

MSportTune2 · 01-21-2016, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tboooe

To be clear, there are essentially two USB connections in the arm rest. One that is actually a USB port and another that is part of the phone cradle. It is the cradle USB that we are moving to the glovebox.

That being said, I am able to plug devices into both USB ports and they both show up on my iDrive screen. I am able to choose which USB device I want to play media from.

Over here, some F30 (328i and above) have the USB in the glovebox. Mine don't and it only comes with standalone USB in the armrest (not phone cradle).

That's good to know. I will try again.

TePee · 01-22-2016, 02:05 AM

You guys did this retrofit with NBT. But Palumbo has Entrynav, the USB plugs of this HU are 180 degrees rotated compared to NBT. And I think this us the problem in this case!

palumbo77 · 01-22-2016, 10:16 AM

Ok thank I'll try to rotate the cable!!

tboooe · 01-22-2016, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TePee

You guys did this retrofit with NBT. But Palumbo has Entrynav, the USB plugs of this HU are 180 degrees rotated compared to NBT. And I think this us the problem in this case!

Wow! How did you know that? I was trying to find a pic of the rear of the head unit of Entrynav to compare to NBT but could not find anything. I am just curious.

TePee · 01-22-2016, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tboooe

Wow! How did you know that? I was trying to find a pic of the rear of the head unit of Entrynav to compare to NBT but could not find anything. I am just curious.

I had originally Entrynav and retrofitted NBT2

Here is a pic comparing the rear of both HUs (it is NBT Evo, but the direction of the plugs is the same as for NBT).

Fronzdan · 01-22-2016, 01:54 PM

WTH? I thought the point of the super complicated, expensive and hard to find Fakra connectors was to provide keying and coding so things like "rotate the cable" wouldn't be needed. That's bizarre.

TePee · 01-22-2016, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fronzdan

WTH? I thought the point of the super complicated, expensive and hard to find Fakra connectors was to provide keying and coding so things like "rotate the cable" wouldn't be needed. That's bizarre.

But in this cases you use different colored plugs & connectors, thus the coding is different...

palumbo77 · 01-22-2016, 04:41 PM

So?? What I have to do?? Rotate the cable into the blue plug??

TePee · 01-23-2016, 02:26 AM

You have to rotate at one end, either at the HU or at the USB socket.

I would do it at the USB socket als it is easier. You can disassamble it an then rotate the white part of it - as I wrote quite at the beginning here.

palumbo77 · 01-23-2016, 03:55 AM

Ok thanks I'll try monday morning and let you know!!

palumbo77 · 01-25-2016, 01:43 PM

It work well with the cable rotated.
Thaks a lot!!!!

Fronzdan · 01-26-2016, 07:39 AM

Nice!!! Good tip TePee!

01-20-2016, 05:15 AM	#1
palumbo77 Private 26 Rep 63 Posts Drives: bmw f31 Join Date: May 2015 Location: italy iTrader: (0)	install USB port glovebox I did everything as described here (http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1108386) but the USB port is not working !! Why ?? I have an entrynav please help me Last edited by palumbo77; 01-20-2016 at 06:29 AM..
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tboooe Brigadier General 925 Rep 3,089 Posts Drives: F36 428i GC, E36 M3 - gone :( Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The OC! iTrader: (1)	I did this same mod and everything works fine. I have a 2TB hard drive in my glove box now where I play music and movies from. Do you have the phone cradle option with the cradle in the center arm rest? __________________ My build thread 2015 428i GC - Alpine White - Coral Red - M Sport
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TePee Second Lieutenant 67 Rep 263 Posts Drives: F34 LCI MY2019 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Home of BMW iTrader: (0)	Are you sure the USB cable is properly connected regarding the pinouts? As you have Entrynav and this HU has different connectors compared to NBT (which is shown in your linked thread) it could be possible that you have to connect your USB cable rotated by 180 degrees! By the way: This USB socket you can disassable and then rotate the white part by 180 degrees - this is the easiest way. Last edited by TePee; 01-21-2016 at 01:43 PM..
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MSportTune2 First Lieutenant 80 Rep 346 Posts Drives: F30 MSport Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Singapore iTrader: (0)	I did this retrofit few weeks ago. I have NBT professional and these are the parts I bought for my F30. USB port : 84109229294 Cable : 6111925854 It's plug and play for me. I did not have to do any coding.
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01-22-2016, 02:05 AM	#12
TePee Second Lieutenant 67 Rep 263 Posts Drives: F34 LCI MY2019 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Home of BMW iTrader: (0)	You guys did this retrofit with NBT. But Palumbo has Entrynav, the USB plugs of this HU are 180 degrees rotated compared to NBT. And I think this us the problem in this case!
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01-22-2016, 10:16 AM	#13
palumbo77 Private 26 Rep 63 Posts Drives: bmw f31 Join Date: May 2015 Location: italy iTrader: (0)	Ok thank I'll try to rotate the cable!!
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Fronzdan Lieutenant Colonel 304 Rep 1,739 Posts Drives: '24 M240 xDrive Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: MA iTrader: (0)	WTH? I thought the point of the super complicated, expensive and hard to find Fakra connectors was to provide keying and coding so things like "rotate the cable" wouldn't be needed. That's bizarre.
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palumbo77 Private 26 Rep 63 Posts Drives: bmw f31 Join Date: May 2015 Location: italy iTrader: (0)	So?? What I have to do?? Rotate the cable into the blue plug??
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TePee Second Lieutenant 67 Rep 263 Posts Drives: F34 LCI MY2019 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Home of BMW iTrader: (0)	You have to rotate at one end, either at the HU or at the USB socket. I would do it at the USB socket als it is easier. You can disassamble it an then rotate the white part of it - as I wrote quite at the beginning here. Last edited by TePee; 01-23-2016 at 04:02 AM..
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01-23-2016, 03:55 AM	#20
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palumbo77 Private 26 Rep 63 Posts Drives: bmw f31 Join Date: May 2015 Location: italy iTrader: (0)	It work well with the cable rotated. Thaks a lot!!!!
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