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      04-06-2016, 02:37 PM   #1
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so......this happened!

so this lug was over torqued and damaged due to hammering with chisel.....any suggestions how to break this lug?? i appreciate any feedback...thanks
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      04-06-2016, 02:39 PM   #2
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Wow. Im sorry. You can drill into it and extract the lug.
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      04-06-2016, 03:01 PM   #3
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Wow. Im sorry. You can drill into it and extract the lug.
you think drill will break the head at least?
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      04-06-2016, 03:03 PM   #4
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i would take it to the professionals at this point and pay for it. it might be worth it before more damage is done
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      04-06-2016, 03:05 PM   #5
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you think drill will break the head at least?
No you gotta drill into it, tap into it and extract it out. Tire shops should be able to get it for you or you can call around to see who sells a lug extractor. Hope the wheel isn't too damaged around the hole there
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No you gotta drill into it, tap into it and extract it out. Tire shops should be able to get it for you or you can call around to see who sells a lug extractor. Hope the wheel isn't too damaged around the hole there
i think i'll try to drill and extract it. went to few tire shops but they don't want to touch it just because its bimmer.....
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Any machine shop in your area can take care of this for you.

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Borrow a corded heavy duty 3/4" drill. Purchase a 1/4" and 1/2" Cobalt drill bits.

Drill with the 1/4" bit down through the head about 1/2", then use the 1/2" drill bit and go until you are about through the head. The head of the bolt will come right off when you get to the threads below the head.
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      04-07-2016, 07:22 AM   #9
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Drilling off the head of the bolt will get the wheel off, but then you'll still need to extract the headless bolt from the wheel flange. I would bet a machine shop would do this job if a tire shop won't touch it. That wheel is a goner anyway. Now you are just trying to avoid having to replace the bearing / wheel flange.
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Did you over torque it or a tire shop?
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A tire shop did this to two of my bolts when I bought winter tires from them, although I usually change wheels at home. Drilled into it, tapped it, removed.

Just be careful not to drill too deep.
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Once the bolt head is drilled out and wheel is off there should be enough of bolt sticking out of the hub to turn it out and remove with locking pliers. There won't be any tension left once wheel is off on the bolt to make it difficult to turn. Unless it has been cross threaded, or badly rusted in place.
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Take the wheel off first.
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I had my wheels balanced at a local tire shop back when I had a MK4 Jetta. I had my full body weight on a breaker bar trying to get the wheel off 2 days later and the socket SPLIT. Took the car back and told them they over tightened the lugs. Shop manager denied that it was possible, and said I was using the wrong tools. Proceeded to take me back to the shop and "prove me wrong." Took him about 15 minutes to get ONE wheel off using a variety of breaker bars and pneumatic air guns. Then he said it must have been because it rained and the lugs tend to rust fast
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Did you over torque it or a tire shop?
tire shop........
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Borrow a corded heavy duty 3/4" drill. Purchase a 1/4" and 1/2" Cobalt drill bits.

Drill with the 1/4" bit down through the head about 1/2", then use the 1/2" drill bit and go until you are about through the head. The head of the bolt will come right off when you get to the threads below the head.
Went to Lowes and got 1/4 and 1/2 drill bits and extractor. Will try to remove it tomorrow. Thank YOU!
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Drilling off the head of the bolt will get the wheel off, but then you'll still need to extract the headless bolt from the wheel flange. I would bet a machine shop would do this job if a tire shop won't touch it. That wheel is a goner anyway. Now you are just trying to avoid having to replace the bearing / wheel flange.
I'll try to drill first but worst scenario i'll have to go to the machine shop....
Called dealer last week about this situation and they said worst case they will have to cut the wheel
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I had my wheels balanced at a local tire shop back when I had a MK4 Jetta. I had my full body weight on a breaker bar trying to get the wheel off 2 days later and the socket SPLIT. Took the car back and told them they over tightened the lugs. Shop manager denied that it was possible, and said I was using the wrong tools. Proceeded to take me back to the shop and "prove me wrong." Took him about 15 minutes to get ONE wheel off using a variety of breaker bars and pneumatic air guns. Then he said it must have been because it rained and the lugs tend to rust fast
My A$$ rusted that fast, how come mine don't rust that fast in Illinois the capital of snow, salt and RUST. You can hear a Toyota rust in norther Illinois that is how bad it is up here.
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omg.......finally got the lug out~~~~
ended up going to the machine shop..thanks for the feedback guys!
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      04-10-2016, 08:47 AM   #20
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Fire that tire shop! If they were are pro's then they should have used a torque wrench in the first place.
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Your gonna need a good cobalt drill bit, some drilling oil and a spine type extractor. Ouch on the rim.....
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Tire shops are notorious for doing this even when you tell them not to.

I try to bring my wheels in loose when possible to avoid this. The last time I was unable to bring the wheels in for new tires and had to drive the car there. I told them: "Please make a note on the order - DO NOT OVER TORQUE THE WHEEL BOLTS". Sure enough they did.

Before I left the tire shop I pulled out my 1/2" breaker bar from the trunk and could not get the bolts loosened. I went to get the manager, the same guy who made the note on the order and asked him to get them loose. He couldn't loosen them either. "How am I supposed to get these off on the side of the highway..?" I asked. There was a silent "asshole" on the end of my sentence.

He knew he was in the wrong and drove the car around to the shop to get all of them loose. Bastards.

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