[BravoJohny33]

Fairly new tool that is open source and can theoretically do anything INPA and Tool 32 can do on your computer. Surprised there are no guides on this tool yet in english.

This open source app uses the original BMW ECU files for OBD communication.
Theoretically all operations that are possible with INPA or Tool32, could be also executed with this application.
With a configuration generator simply select the diagnostics jobs to execute and create your own configuration files.
For complex tasks the configurations files could be created manually.
The application supports the following OBD II adapters:
- Standard FTDI based USB "INPA compatible" D-CAN/K-Line adapters (all protocols)
- ELM327 based Bluetooth and WiFi adapters. Recommended ELM327 versions are 1.4b, 1.5 and origin 2.1, which are based on PIC18F2480 processor (no MCP2515 chip) (D-CAN protocol only)
- Custom Bluetooth D-CAN/K-Line adapter (BMW-FAST protocol over D-CAN and K-Line)
- A replacement firmware for the ELM327 Bluetooth adapter is existing, that is faster, more stable and that also supports K-Line



https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...k.bmw_deep_obd

[noah.s]

Wow that's pretty cool. I'll have to check it out!

[335NJ]

I downloaded this about a week or so ago, but haven't been able to actually test it out yet!

Anyone with any experience with this app chime in

I'll be trying it out this weekend unless I have the chance sooner, so I'll report back.

Additional info: https://ediabaslib.codeplex.com/wiki...BD%20for%20BMW

(POLISH) http://www.bmw-klub.pl/forum/viewtop...?f=48&t=288552

Source code info (I have no idea why this may be important, but you guys might know) https://ediabaslib.codeplex.com/SourceControl/latest

[Welcome to NBA Jam]

Looks like it has a lot of potential. This could be the next natural progression of BMW coding.

[335NJ]

Originally Posted by Welcome to NBA Jam

Looks like it has a lot of potential. This could be the next natural progression of BMW coding.

Just use Carly! (Disregard the $60 for the app, and the basically required re-labeled OBD adapter).

[tdavis42]

So to be clear this is a great tool for diagnostics?

[BravoJohny33]

Originally Posted by tdavis42

So to be clear this is a great tool for diagnostics?

Yes.. Its the power of INPA and TOOL 32 for free on your android phone. Which should work over a 10 dollar OBDII bluetooth adapter. The other app that does this stuff costs 60 bucks.

[pierop]

Originally Posted by BravoJohny33

Yes.. Its the power of INPA and TOOL 32 for free on your android phone. Which should work over a 10 dollar OBDII bluetooth adapter. The other app that does this stuff costs 60 bucks.

which adapter should I get if I just want to plug and play.

[BeastMode335i]

#inB4iFuktMyPhoneUpWithThisAppAndINeedHelpFixingIt BecauseItsMostlyInGermanAndIDontSpeakGermanPlzAndT hankYou

[pierop]

Originally Posted by BeastMode335i

#inB4iFuktMyPhoneUpWithThisAppAndINeedHelpFixingIt BecauseItsMostlyInGermanAndIDontSpeakGermanPlzAndT hankYou

I'd be more scared to mess with the car itself than my phone. I can back up an image of my phone, but what am I supposed to do with a bricked ecm??

[John 070]

When I see how clunky Rheingold is, running on a core i7 with SSD, and it does what INPA does/did, I have to admit I'm a bit skeptical doing all the same on a phone. Part of me says one cannot expect phones to replace everything. But what was rather surprising was just this week, a buddy who is in the distribution space, said the newest guns run on Android (we're talking $3k RF guns)...seriously, I was surprised about that.

[BeastMode335i]

Yeah, I'll stick with NCSexpert, WinkFP, and MHD for all my coding and diagnostic needs for now haha.. Perhaps once this gets dwelled into a bit more by those more knowledgeable, and after the first batch of people mess their cars up, and than a fix is found for those same people, than I'll give it a shot..

[335NJ]

Originally Posted by BeastMode335i

Yeah, I'll stick with NCSexpert, WinkFP, and MHD for all my coding and diagnostic needs for now haha.. Perhaps once this gets dwelled into a bit more by those more knowledgeable, and after the first batch of people mess their cars up, and than a fix is found for those same people, than I'll give it a shot..

I agree. But, until there's a way to make my car say "Gutentag!" when I open my door, I'll never be satisfied.

[BeastMode335i]

Originally Posted by 335NJ

I agree. But, until there's a way to make my car say "Gutentag!" when I open my door, I'll never be satisfied.

that's funny af..

[BravoJohny33]

Originally Posted by John 070

When I see how clunky Rheingold is, running on a core i7 with SSD, and it does what INPA does/did, I have to admit I'm a bit skeptical doing all the same on a phone. Part of me says one cannot expect phones to replace everything. But what was rather surprising was just this week, a buddy who is in the distribution space, said the newest guns run on Android (we're talking $3k RF guns)...seriously, I was surprised about that.

The dealership diagnostic computer was a IBM T30 in 2011. My phone is more powerful than that. Phones WILL replace everything. The CPU is no longer getting more powerful but instead getting smaller and having more cores. CPUs have hit their peak and mobile devices are expected to take over.

[BravoJohny33]

Originally Posted by BeastMode335i

#inB4iFuktMyPhoneUpWithThisAppAndINeedHelpFixingIt BecauseItsMostlyInGermanAndIDontSpeakGermanPlzAndT hankYou

It is actually in English.. It uses a third party API to auto translate from german to English

[John 070]

Originally Posted by BravoJohny33

The dealership diagnostic computer was a IBM T30 in 2011. My phone is more powerful than that. Phones WILL replace everything. The CPU is no longer getting more powerful but instead getting smaller and having more cores. CPUs have hit their peak and mobile devices are expected to take over.

That could be the minimum requirements, which usually equates to a fail. My co. issued me a T61P which I still have, and that was like 2007. I remember having a T41 and T40 before that, the T41 was like 2003, so I think we need to take what you're saying with a grain of salt. Anyone using a T30 in 2011 is a bit looney.

My T61P installed Rheingold in over 30 min. The new laptop did it in 7.

Please don't tell me you sell RF gun iPhone adapters for a living (there are nutjobs trying to do that). There's a reason a gun costs $3k (or more), and a phone costs $800 at full retail.

[John 070]

Originally Posted by BeastMode335i

Yeah, I'll stick with NCSexpert, WinkFP, and MHD for all my coding and diagnostic needs for now haha.. Perhaps once this gets dwelled into a bit more by those more knowledgeable, and after the first batch of people mess their cars up, and than a fix is found for those same people, than I'll give it a shot..

Hey, Johnny33 just told us phones will replace everything. Are you even listening? lol

(it is rather a joke that there is a movement to do that, but it's failing miserably right now. If you're say Target or Lowes or amazon.com, you will not bet your WMS infrastructure on a phone, like some pesky salespeople want you to).

[BravoJohny33]

Originally Posted by John 070

That could be the minimum requirements, which usually equates to a fail. My co. issued me a T61P which I still have, and that was like 2007. I remember having a T41 and T40 before that, the T41 was like 2003, so I think we need to take what you're saying with a grain of salt. Anyone using a T30 in 2011 is a bit looney.

My T61P installed Rheingold in over 30 min. The new laptop did it in 7.

Please don't tell me you sell RF gun iPhone adapters for a living (there are nutjobs trying to do that). There's a reason a gun costs $3k (or more), and a phone costs $800 at full retail.

The hardware in an iPhone 6s is more powerful than the hardware in an RF Gun. The gun my store had that cost 2k was complete SHIT. It ran windows CE and had hardly any ram. Nothing wrong with slapping a scanner onto an iphone.

[John 070]

Originally Posted by BravoJohny33

The hardware in an iPhone 6s is more powerful than the hardware in an RF Gun. The gun my store had that cost 2k was complete SHIT. It ran windows CE and had hardly any ram. Nothing wrong with slapping a scanner onto an iphone.

Try and sell that kewl aid to Lowes, amazon, Walmart, Home Depot, they will throw you out of their DC by the scruff of your neck. The downtime in 10 min. is more than your annual salary for 10 years...

[BravoJohny33]

Originally Posted by John 070

Hey, Johnny33 just told us phones will replace everything. Are you even listening? lol

(it is rather a joke that there is a movement to do that, but it's failing miserably right now. If you're say Target or Lowes or amazon.com, you will not bet your WMS infrastructure on a phone, like some pesky salespeople want you to).

Yeah I went to college for information technology and just about every professor in the field says mobile devices will replace everything. Prob why there is a big push for it because every big wig says its the future.

[John 070]

Originally Posted by BravoJohny33

Yeah I went to college for information technology and just about every professor in the field says mobile devices will replace everything. Prob why there is a big push for it because every big wig says its the future.

Can you imagine, strolling into amazon, where they have million dollar robots, and telling them how stupid they are to spend $3k plus on a RF gun that runs windows CE (that's just hardware, not the licensing, support, wavelink, avalanche, etc.), and that they are really missing the boat not using iPhones?

for kicks, can you do that with a gopro? You'll get a lot of hits, I promise.