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      04-15-2016, 11:11 AM   #1
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BMW Recalls 7 Series Due to Air Bag Issue

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BMW AG is recalling its new flagship 7-series luxury limousine due to a potential air bag deployment issue, the company said on Thursday.

Airbags in 26,000 cars produced before Dec. 11, 2015 may have a defective air bag control module, the company said, adding that there have been no known cases of faulty deployments.

"It is purely a precautionary measure," a BMW spokesman said, adding that so far 47,000 vehicles of its new 7-series have been produced.

The supplier of the affected air bag parts to BMW was Continental AG (CONG.DE).

In a filing posted on the website of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration on Thursday morning, BMW said the recall will affect 6,110 vehicles in the U.S. market.

In the United States, affected vehicles are from the 2016 model year including 740Li, 750Li, and 750 Lxi.

In Germany, 2,600 cars are impacted and in China 4,700 cars will be recalled, BMW said.

In the United States, owners will receive letters in May about the recall. The fix, for which customers will not be charged, will take up to four hours at a dealership.

via Reuters

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      04-15-2016, 11:34 AM   #2
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I bet the 7 series are still amazingly safe even without airbags.
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      04-15-2016, 11:50 AM   #4
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Watch the excuses pour out now...
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Watch the excuses pour out now...
What excuses? A recall is a recall. Nothing BMW could have really done unless they knew Continental AG was providing shoddy parts. Outside of tires, I've had poor experiences with their automotive safety systems. I had to replace two sets (four in total) of radar sensors for my ML because they kept failing even with a revision to the part.

With today's cars and with everything that has happened over the last year or two, doesn't matter what car, German, Japanese, American, I don't think anyone is surprised to see a recall happen.
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Watch the excuses pour out now...
What excuses? A recall is a recall. Nothing BMW could have really done unless they knew Continental AG was providing shoddy parts. Outside of tires, I've had poor experiences with their automotive safety systems. I had to replace two sets (four in total) of radar sensors for my ML because they kept failing even with a revision to the part.

With today's cars and with everything that has happened over the last year or two, doesn't matter what car, German, Japanese, American, I don't think anyone is surprised to see a recall happen.
Exactly my point
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The air bags have been recalled on a ton of cars recently, not just the 7. Got a letter 2 weeks ago for a recall on my 128.
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This is just a module issue which is available for replacement.

The actual airbag crisis is a different story

Its estimates the whole takata airbag issue will take 12 years to resolve
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Watch the excuses pour out now...
You have no point.

Please educate yourself.

see Takata airbags.

They avoided the supplier with known issues and it looks like another supplier has chosen to recall their products.

The only " excuse " here is "its life in the big city"
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      04-15-2016, 02:12 PM   #10
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Watch the excuses pour out now...
What excuses? A recall is a recall. Nothing BMW could have really done unless they knew Continental AG was providing shoddy parts. Outside of tires, I've had poor experiences with their automotive safety systems. I had to replace two sets (four in total) of radar sensors for my ML because they kept failing even with a revision to the part.

With today's cars and with everything that has happened over the last year or two, doesn't matter what car, German, Japanese, American, I don't think anyone is surprised to see a recall happen.
"Nothing BMW could have done?"

It's this kind of thinking that will derail the future progress in technology management.
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Yup, just "Control Module" Not actual airbags Takata or another manufacturer.

Parts have just hit some port and dealer priority 1 vehicles.

Customers(who already own) will be called in shortly for there fixes.

Annoying but better to be safe than sorry.
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You have no point.

Please educate yourself.

see Takata airbags.

They avoided the supplier with known issues and it looks like another supplier has chosen to recall their products.

The only " excuse " here is "its life in the big city"
Bingo. And, for the record, dealerships have been holding back cars that are affected by this issue for weeks. And it's not a "massive" recall by any means, given it only affects early-build G11 / G12. Anything ordered after December 2015 is golden.
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"Nothing BMW could have done?"

It's this kind of thinking that will derail the future progress in technology management.
There really isn't unless Continental wants to invite car companies to get involved in the R&D and testing of the hardware. The only thing BMW can do is do a recall and show goodwill towards those that are affected. If BMW can't trust or has to worry, what's the point of going third-party to a supplier who is supposed to be the expert? If BMW has to get deeply involved, they might as well design and manufacture the components themselves.

At the end of the day, s--t happens. You can't blame BMW for something they have absolutely no control over. The only time you could be up in arms with BMW is if they don't handle the recall in a satisfactory way, everything else is up to Continental to fix.
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Right. Recalls are a good thing, from one point of view... It shows they are proactive about known problems, and unfortunately, nothing is 100% perfect in manufacturing.
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"Nothing BMW could have done?"

It's this kind of thinking that will derail the future progress in technology management.
There really isn't unless Continental wants to invite car companies to get involved in the R&D and testing of the hardware. The only thing BMW can do is do a recall and show goodwill towards those that are affected. If BMW can't trust or has to worry, what's the point of going third-party to a supplier who is supposed to be the expert? If BMW has to get deeply involved, they might as well design and manufacture the components themselves.

At the end of the day, s--t happens. You can't blame BMW for something they have absolutely no control over. The only time you could be up in arms with BMW is if they don't handle the recall in a satisfactory way, everything else is up to Continental to fix.

Exactly ...

It's unfortunate that the great unwashed likely still will blame BMW ...
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"Nothing BMW could have done?"

It's this kind of thinking that will derail the future progress in technology management.
There really isn't unless Continental wants to invite car companies to get involved in the R&D and testing of the hardware. The only thing BMW can do is do a recall and show goodwill towards those that are affected. If BMW can't trust or has to worry, what's the point of going third-party to a supplier who is supposed to be the expert? If BMW has to get deeply involved, they might as well design and manufacture the components themselves.

At the end of the day, s--t happens. You can't blame BMW for something they have absolutely no control over. The only time you could be up in arms with BMW is if they don't handle the recall in a satisfactory way, everything else is up to Continental to fix.

Exactly ...

It's unfortunate that the great unwashed likely still will blame BMW ...
"the great unwashed"

Are you really that delusional??
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... BMW AG is recalling its new flagship 7-series luxury limousine due to a potential air bag deployment issue, the company said on Thursday. ...
I wonder if the airbag went off in this 7-Series prototype (and the police van):



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I bet the 7 series are still amazingly safe even without airbags.
Hahahahahaha
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You have no point.

Please educate yourself.

see Takata airbags.

They avoided the supplier with known issues and it looks like another supplier has chosen to recall their products.

The only " excuse " here is "its life in the big city"
Cough... 2006-2011 X5, 3 series, 5 series mass recall and resale prohibited Cough...

But seriously.. Whats with these airbag companies???
And damn BMW for not fixing my airbag asap... I dont feel safe driving it and I cant even sell it!!!!
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130 years of auto manufacturing, and now were worried about airbags.
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It all always reminds me of the SNL skit they did on airbags,

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-li...-airbag/n10202
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Oh I'd heard about this, some of the early buyers had found their airbag's heated vibration massage feature wasn't working and weren't able to sleep as soundly
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