[longbeachbluem2]

Wagner BMW of Shrewsbury MA claims to have an allocation available now, but wants $5k over MSRP. They won't do euro delivery so that is a deal breaker for me, but they seem to be willing to negotiate on markup. Odd that they don't seem to have a waiting list, but I was told that's "what we're doing for this car". Hope this helps someone!

[gmzanatta]

Originally Posted by hdg76

Odd that they don't seem to have a waiting list, but I was told that's "what we're doing for this car".

**cough cough** BS **cough cough**

Had my brother in Boston call, he was told they have a waiting list 4 people deep.

Would love it if someone else could call and see how many versions of the story we get haha.

[CosmosMpower]

Originally Posted by gmzanatta

**cough cough** BS **cough cough**

Had my brother in Boston call, he was told they have a waiting list 4 people deep.

Would love it if someone else could call and see how many versions of the story we get haha.

Who cares, these guys want to make some extra profit. Just move on.

[gmzanatta]

Originally Posted by CosmosMpower

Who cares, these guys want to make some extra profit. Just move on.

If we move on though, members on the forum won't know who is out there trying to screw them over.

I make it my civic duty to expose sketchy dealers like this.

PS: plus it helps procrastinate work

[longbeachbluem2]

Originally Posted by gmzanatta

Would love it if someone else could call and see how many versions of the story we get haha.

Like you, I'd be interested to see what others are told. I didn't believe the whole wait list crap, but FWIW two different CA's kept reiterating that they had an open allocation now.

Originally Posted by gmzanatta

If we move on though, members on the forum won't know who is out there trying to screw them over.

Appreciate you following up. Don't want anyone here to get screwed by them. It's amazing that some of the dealers I have talked with that continue to say "$5k markup", "Extremely limited production", etc. Some have since come back with MSRP ("I got the manager to let me sell it to you for..."). Definitely not getting my business.

[CosmosMpower]

Originally Posted by gmzanatta

If we move on though, members on the forum won't know who is out there trying to screw them over.

I make it my civic duty to expose sketchy dealers like this.

PS: plus it helps procrastinate work

How is it shady? It's a free market, they can ask whatever they want and you can buy it or move on. Yeah all us consumer wants to pay MSRP or less but no one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to pay markup. Worst case someone will get their hopes up and then hear the price and walk away.

[gmzanatta]

Originally Posted by CosmosMpower

How is it shady? It's a free market, they can ask whatever they want and you can buy it or move on. Yeah all us consumer wants to pay MSRP or less but no one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to pay markup. Worst case someone will get their hopes up and then hear the price and walk away.

It's shady when he says he has an allocation available to one person but then says there is a wait list of 4 people to another...only one of those can be true.

And yes, I agree about MSRP and mark-ups, that is simply the nature of a free market. Lying about the number of allocations on the other hand...

[her02k]

The free market is really the best. They are free to charge over MSRP and we have the freedom to take our business elsewhere and advise others to do likewise.